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Saw a post on Reddit where this was being discussed. However, the post was 3 years old, and no more comments could be made.
Ferrari GTO and Daihatsu Charade GTti were mentioned. In the comments they seemed to agree that it was the GTO that was first to achieve this milestone. Pfft. Amateurs.. So I posted a new thread which got locked because I am not very active on Reddit. Anyways, here is a copy and paste of my locked post.
First production car to make 100 bhp/liter was the 1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth.
Unfortunately, this post can no longer be commented on. So, let's clear this up.
.
The Ford Sierra Cosworth launched in 1986 with 204BHP from a 1993cc engine.
Now there are three other vehicles that are often mentioned when this pub chat comes about.
Ferrari 250 GTO
Porsche 959
Daihatsu Charade GTti
Let’s address the Ferrari first. Regardless of when it was launched, the maximum power made by a road going production 250 GTO is 296 HP from a 2,953 cc engine. However, Horsepower (HP) and Brake Horse Power (BHP) are two different ways of measuring power. 296 HP when converted to BHP = 291 BHP. So the Ferrari GTO made 98.5 BHP/L. It is the same result when we use the KW to HP conversion. The 250 GTO made 221kw. 1kw = 1.3405 Hp. 221 KW x 1.3405 = 296HP. 296HP = 291 BHP.
The Ferrari, however, is the first vehicle achieve 100HP/L. This cannot be disputed.
Here is a conversion calculator to help with this.
Conversion-Calculator / Convert Measurement Units (convert-measurement-units.com)
None in their right mind would choose the Cosworth over the 250 GT0. But this post isn’t about which one you want.
Next up is the Porsche 959. Now this car did smash the 100BHP/L figure, and not by a small bit either. However, this vehicle went into production in 1986 and only went on sale in 1987. So, it was beaten to this milestone by the Ford Sierra Cosworth. Case closed.
The same can be said for the Daihatsu Charade GTti. It also launched in 1987.
This post is not about bashing the Ferrari, Porsche, or Charade in any way. I just feel the Ford Sierra Cosworth deserves to be credited with this milestone.
So, there you have it chaps.
The first road going production car that had an engine making 100 BHP/L was the 1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth!
Ford didnt stop there. They then made a limited run of 500 vehicles which were capable of more power but very detuned in road trim. These were called the Sierra RS500 Cosworth. The 500 indicating that only 500 were made.
Now, if we really wanted to start a fanbooi war, we could dive even deeper into this and discuss what the most successful racing car is in history. But this one gets all the fanboois really upset under the collar. Especially the OG M3 fans. Jokes aside though, it is one that is very hard to dissect since it is almost impossible to have all the stats from all the races that any car has ever entered. The RS500 even beat the Germans in German touring car (yes, it beat the OG M3). The competitors (Merc, BMW, etc) then lobbied to have the rules changed in order to make the vehicle be disqualified from competing in Germany. It even beat the japanese brands in the Japanese Touring car. Its reign was eventually halted when Nissan launched the legendary Skyline GTR R32. Aka Godzilla.
And fun fact, one recently sold for R13m! think about that for a second, R13m for a Ford Sierra???
Edit. I just wish to add that none of these vehicles were sold in South Africa by Ford SA. The only way to get your hands on one was to import it yourself. There was a local tuner in SA who imported a few Saphire Cosworth 4x4 engines and drivetrains and then built them into Saphire body shells he got from Ford SA. I believe 12 were made in SA. Besides these, as far as I know, there is no RS500 Cosworth in SA. There a few Escort Cosworths which have the same engine as the Sierra Cosworth, but that's another topic all together.
Hope you enjoyed reading this boring post. If you still here, watch this.
Ferrari GTO and Daihatsu Charade GTti were mentioned. In the comments they seemed to agree that it was the GTO that was first to achieve this milestone. Pfft. Amateurs.. So I posted a new thread which got locked because I am not very active on Reddit. Anyways, here is a copy and paste of my locked post.
First production car to make 100 bhp/liter was the 1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth.
Unfortunately, this post can no longer be commented on. So, let's clear this up.
.
The Ford Sierra Cosworth launched in 1986 with 204BHP from a 1993cc engine.
Now there are three other vehicles that are often mentioned when this pub chat comes about.
Ferrari 250 GTO
Porsche 959
Daihatsu Charade GTti
Let’s address the Ferrari first. Regardless of when it was launched, the maximum power made by a road going production 250 GTO is 296 HP from a 2,953 cc engine. However, Horsepower (HP) and Brake Horse Power (BHP) are two different ways of measuring power. 296 HP when converted to BHP = 291 BHP. So the Ferrari GTO made 98.5 BHP/L. It is the same result when we use the KW to HP conversion. The 250 GTO made 221kw. 1kw = 1.3405 Hp. 221 KW x 1.3405 = 296HP. 296HP = 291 BHP.
The Ferrari, however, is the first vehicle achieve 100HP/L. This cannot be disputed.
Here is a conversion calculator to help with this.
Conversion-Calculator / Convert Measurement Units (convert-measurement-units.com)
None in their right mind would choose the Cosworth over the 250 GT0. But this post isn’t about which one you want.
Next up is the Porsche 959. Now this car did smash the 100BHP/L figure, and not by a small bit either. However, this vehicle went into production in 1986 and only went on sale in 1987. So, it was beaten to this milestone by the Ford Sierra Cosworth. Case closed.
The same can be said for the Daihatsu Charade GTti. It also launched in 1987.
This post is not about bashing the Ferrari, Porsche, or Charade in any way. I just feel the Ford Sierra Cosworth deserves to be credited with this milestone.
So, there you have it chaps.
The first road going production car that had an engine making 100 BHP/L was the 1986 Ford Sierra Cosworth!
Ford didnt stop there. They then made a limited run of 500 vehicles which were capable of more power but very detuned in road trim. These were called the Sierra RS500 Cosworth. The 500 indicating that only 500 were made.
Now, if we really wanted to start a fanbooi war, we could dive even deeper into this and discuss what the most successful racing car is in history. But this one gets all the fanboois really upset under the collar. Especially the OG M3 fans. Jokes aside though, it is one that is very hard to dissect since it is almost impossible to have all the stats from all the races that any car has ever entered. The RS500 even beat the Germans in German touring car (yes, it beat the OG M3). The competitors (Merc, BMW, etc) then lobbied to have the rules changed in order to make the vehicle be disqualified from competing in Germany. It even beat the japanese brands in the Japanese Touring car. Its reign was eventually halted when Nissan launched the legendary Skyline GTR R32. Aka Godzilla.
And fun fact, one recently sold for R13m! think about that for a second, R13m for a Ford Sierra???
Edit. I just wish to add that none of these vehicles were sold in South Africa by Ford SA. The only way to get your hands on one was to import it yourself. There was a local tuner in SA who imported a few Saphire Cosworth 4x4 engines and drivetrains and then built them into Saphire body shells he got from Ford SA. I believe 12 were made in SA. Besides these, as far as I know, there is no RS500 Cosworth in SA. There a few Escort Cosworths which have the same engine as the Sierra Cosworth, but that's another topic all together.
Hope you enjoyed reading this boring post. If you still here, watch this.
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