Bad Deal with Sick Boy. * YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!*

[Blatz_ztalB]

I would not have bothered to help this kind of customer at all, even as a reseller. Some people are just not worth the time.

7 days have passed and he's an asshat? Then it's his own problem, he can fix the damn lappy himself.

7 days have passed and he's a good guy? More than happy to help.

But I can see you're much nicer than me hahaha

 

[ian_stagib]

I would like to know who the attorney is that agreed writing that letter?
[MENTION=24263]Sickboy[/MENTION], you are the reason we have middle fingers.


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A lot of lawyers will write whatever you want them to write. They're charging you after all. If you lose your bullshit argument it doesn't matter to them.

I'm no expert...But isn't this fraud? Since he willfully misrepresented information on a legal document for personal gain?
Sorry dude. This kind of customer is why I am very careful with who I supply services too. Always get the wingers that blame you for their broken toaster because you installed a printer :/

No, I think the world would be a lot better place if people had to be 100% accurate when doing these communications. People write whatever they want to write. Fraud will only become a thing if you're entering into a contract of some sort.

 

[Sickman]

Are you SickBoy's father?

Lol, i was waiting for this.
As hy my kind was het ek al lank al sy gat gebliksem.

 

[ProP]

Am I the only one that thinks that the letter is a fake?

i wanted that laptop so bad at the time! I actually regret not buying it because it didn't have a numpad. What a fool I am.

I would have given up on him long ago. Good job [MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION]

 

[Senshi]

[MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION]

Sy ma se p**s. Ignore the arrogant twit, you did a lot more than most people would bother with.

Refund before sending the laptop back..... I should try that with the next item I buy from a shop.

 

[Lord of the Flies]

If I ever see a [MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION] sale here for something I want, I'll be sure to remember what outstanding service you give. Jesus, that's some saintly s**t.
[MENTION=19768]Sick Boy[/MENTION] sounds like a real piece of work. Just one thing in this that is out of place - your feedback for the deal is a positive "Buyer was very careful but was friendly and communicated well." Can you not update your iTrader rating for the deal?

 

[Manny]

If I ever see a [MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION] sale here for something I want, I'll be sure to remember what outstanding service you give. Jesus, that's some saintly s**t.

[MENTION=19768]Sick Boy[/MENTION] sounds like a real piece of work. Just one thing in this that is out of place - your feedback for the deal is a positive "Buyer was very careful but was friendly and communicated well." Can you not update your iTrader rating for the deal?

Yep, [MENTION=766]ian_stagib[/MENTION] said he'll assist him with that.

Hats off to you [MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION]

 

[ahoudet]

If I ever see a [MENTION=28484]DIM_MAK[/MENTION] sale here for something I want, I'll be sure to remember what outstanding service you give. Jesus, that's some saintly s**t.

+1


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[MSI1104]

See if the Attorney is real or if they did send the letter, If not then forward the letter to the local Law Society. Its a criminal offence to impersonate a officer of the court. If a am not mistaken the penalty is up to 8 years imprisonment.

 

[m05am]

See if the Attorney is real or if they did send the letter, If not then forward the letter to the local Law Society. Its a criminal offence to impersonate a officer of the court. If a am not mistaken the penalty is up to 8 years imprisonment.

I agree, people like that are scum and have no respect for the law


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[disipher]

I do not think the law has any grounds for this exchange, as you said, its a classified sale therefore voetstoots sale, unless you invoiced him?
I am not sure if the lappy was new or not, kinda browsed, but under consumers act, second hand or used goods are not protected under the consumers act.
If it was a new laptop, than he shouldnt have minded a refund or exchange, its not rocket science.
The fact that you went out of your way to help beyond and infinity says something.
I mean you even offered to do all the shipping at your expense, and its not like you have negative ratings and such.
Customers are just full of shit to put it bluntly.
I think that guy is going to be missing for quite awhile. The lawyers fees probably costed more than the laptop.
P.S I am no lawyer, I am stating general knowledge that I know which might be wrong.

 

[PeeWee]

Warrap*#s

 

[MSI1104]

I do not think the law has any grounds for this exchange, as you said, its a classified sale therefore voetstoots sale, unless you invoiced him?
I am not sure if the lappy was new or not, kinda browsed, but under consumers act, second hand or used goods are not protected under the consumers act.
If it was a new laptop, than he shouldnt have minded a refund or exchange, its not rocket science.
The fact that you went out of your way to help beyond and infinity says something.
I mean you even offered to do all the shipping at your expense, and its not like you have negative ratings and such.
Customers are just full of shit to put it bluntly.
I think that guy is going to be missing for quite awhile. The lawyers fees probably costed more than the laptop.
P.S I am no lawyer, I am stating general knowledge that I know which might be wrong.

Be very careful when you shout VOETSTOETS. It only covers patent defects. To top it off if you can prove a latent(hidden) defect then it's the one time in our civil law where the onus of proof is reversed. It's really not applied or relied on much nowadays but you can be in for a shock if you want to be all legal like. I personally don't believe the Letter of Demand is real.

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[el3venth]

I personally don't believe the Letter of Demand is real.

I think it is. In fact it is a Letter of Demand. I can demand anything. But just because I demand something, doesn't mean it's legal or right.
A Letter of Demand is just a step in the legal system. You cannot just take someone to civil court, you have to first allow to rectify the situation before it goes to court.

Secondly I think the mods should just ignore this thread. It is posted in the Smacktalk section. Once it escalates to a Bad Deal thread, then they are more than welcome to intervene.

 

[MSI1104]

I think it is. In fact it is a Letter of Demand. I can demand anything. But just because I demand something, doesn't mean it's legal or right.
A Letter of Demand is just a step in the legal system. You cannot just take someone to civil court, you have to first allow to rectify the situation before it goes to court.

I meant to say really from an Attorney. Basically the consult alone would be in the region of R800 to R1000 plus the cost of drafting. Then to top it off it was sent by email not registered post as would be required by the rules of court. Only way to waive this rule of service is if it was part of a written contract.

But hey I have not seen the letter so can't comment.

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[DIM_MAK]

Okay, so thanks for all the comments guys. Personally I feel the thread would have been a lot less one sided if Sick Boy actually checked any of his emails to do with carb...

As the deal was done on carb I would have been happy to change my decision regarding the return if the community leaned in that direction. Seeing as most agree with my response I think we can call this one as I am happy that my decision was not a malicious one.

If possible I would like to change my iTrader for the deal, thanks in advance for the help with that [MENTION=766]ian_stagib[/MENTION].

I don't think there is much else to be said, I responded to him and his lawyer and made my point of view very clear.

If anything else transpires I will let you guys know.

 

[Toxxyc]

If anything else transpires I will let you guys know.

At this stage I think transpiration isn't what we're wondering about, but rather Sick Boy's perspiration after your reply to him.

 

[ian_stagib]

Okay, so thanks for all the comments guys. Personally I feel the thread would have been a lot less one sided if Sick Boy actually checked any of his emails to do with carb...

As the deal was done on carb I would have been happy to change my decision regarding the return if the community leaned in that direction. Seeing as most agree with my response I think we can call this one as I am happy that my decision was not a malicious one.

If possible I would like to change my iTrader for the deal, thanks in advance for the help with that [MENTION=766]ian_stagib[/MENTION].

I don't think there is much else to be said, I responded to him and his lawyer and made my point of view very clear.

If anything else transpires I will let you guys know.

itrader changed. I think it'll be very hard for him to get people to deal with him now that he has two bad itraders

 

[Sick Boy]

There are always 2 sides to a story, I will add mine soonest, but what I can tell you is that it is not as he says, I have even had to get my attorney involved, Dim_Mark is a straight up liar, Watch this space.

 

[g0l1athrulz]

There are always 2 sides to a story, I will add mine soonest, but what I can tell you is that it is not as he says, I have even had to get my attorney involved, Dim_Mark is a straight up liar, Watch this space.

Please do update us, always best to hear both sides

 

[m05am]

Im running out of popcorn


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[Sick Boy]

I am willing to send 10 time the amount I paid for the laptop on attorney fee's, on principal alone

 

[AAAH NUUU BRU]

I am willing to send 10 time the amount I paid for the laptop on attorney fee's, on principal alone

well you want to put in your side of the story ?

 

[Cassady]

There are always 2 sides to a story, I will add mine soonest, but what I can tell you is that it is not as he says, I have even had to get my attorney involved, Dim_Mark is a straight up liar, Watch this space.

I am willing to send 10 time the amount I paid for the laptop on attorney fee's, on principal alone

Considering you just called "Dim_Mark" [sic] a straight up liar on a public forum, you might just start hoping you only end up "sending" 10 time the amount on attorney fees.
Best you show your attorney friend what you just popped up here as well, and see what he/she says, hmmm?

 

[Xproximity]

Slander : is the act of making a false, negative spoken statement about someone. In law, the word slander is contrasted with libel, which is the act of making a false written statement about someone.

This could get very very interesting....

 

[Orihalcon]

Ha! Subbed now.



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[DIM_MAK]

[MENTION=19768]Sick Boy[/MENTION] --- I am happy you get to finally make your case here. As fair warning though, please don't defame me, I made no derogatory remarks about you in my OP. State your case and version of events. Our character as people is not what's up for discussion here but rather our actions post sale that must be brought to light.

 

[Toxxyc]

Dim_Mark is a straight up liar

 

[Manny]

[MENTION=19768]Sick Boy[/MENTION] --- I am happy you get to finally make your case here. As fair warning though, please don't defame me, I made no derogatory remarks about you in my OP. State your case and version of events. Our character as people is not what's up for discussion here but rather our actions post sale that must be brought to light.

[MENTION=19768]Sick Boy[/MENTION] - we await your side of events in line with this.

Sigh... the suspense

 

[CRE4MPIE]

I lel!

Where there are legal disputes between 2 parties, it would be unethical for the one party, to send a letter his lawyer drafted . Instead your lawyer should be asking who is legally representing your opposition and contact them to avoid this back and forth waste of internet space ... They will address the facts and relay whether you actually have a case or just blowing smoke to take it forward.

Lawyers are manwhores ( no offence Ian xD ) they will do what you ask them to the best of their ability