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Seller: @ZackF
Buyer: @Petester
Description of Bad Deal: Dodgy behavior. Probable scammer( I'm being poilte )
I contacted seller about this laptop
Went to whatsapp and chatted on there for awhile . Was just checking him out by asking questions . Very chatty, helpful kinda guy.
He provided pics and invoice and even offered that i could return the laptop after 3 and then 6 months if i was not happy.
Immediately started getting suspicious. Who does this .? Very weird but anyway.
So checked out invoice and phoned Takealot who said it was a legit invoice . Nothing had been altered.
They weren't allowed to confirm personal details, but i did it in roundabout way by giving them all his details and saying "well as long as all that is legit then i have nothing to worry about
He just said cautiously that all is fine , effectively confirming the details i gave were correct. This is what probably tilted me against my usual instincts.
Next red flag was payment . I was still feeling unsure about this guy, so when setting up his account I wanted to verify it. Std Bank require the ID No to verify the account and does it instantly.
He refused to give me his ID number citing personal privacy ,etc. He doubled down on this . Worried about identify theft /scamming etc.
I do understand some are reluctant to give out their ID No. but i wasn't asking for a copy of his ID book. I was just confirming his account and I couldn't.
So now i was on the spot . Do I buy or move on as other people wanted the laptop.
I spoke to a few people and some said they wouldn't give out their ID No. to a stranger and others saw no reason to withhold it .
Also i am well-known here so hardly going to be doing identify theft
Still I decided based on the legitimacy of the invoice, that i would proceed. I checked with Randomguy and he said he got the same cell number and guy was also very chatty with him
So i paid him on Thurs midday. Money only cleared on Sat and he informed me and as usual very chatty etc. Again not scammer like behavior. Asked me about monitors and advice ,etc
I was going to book Monday but he said Tues will be best as he is home the whole day .
So started the booking process at 8:30am this morning. I had already checked out his street address in Hermanus and it was there. What i didn't do was check his house number.
Big mistake. I did this morning and found that his address of 67 * Road name * was not possible, as the house numbers only went to 32. I immediately thought i was scammed.
So i contact him not expecting a reply, but as usual he is on and letting me know that its actually 6 * Road Name * Hermanus
His own words
"[9:25 am, 22/02/2022] Zack: Hey Pete, 67 * street name St. Is also 6 street name *
[9:34 am, 22/02/2022] Zack: It's all linked. For TCG they know 6 "
What bullshit ! I know that ive been almost certainly scammed now, but why is he still in touch and chatting ? Why am I not told this from the beginning . Why am i not given 6 as the address. Because he just made up 67 . In fact there is a 67 * street name * in Adelaide, Australia
Not expecting anything now . So i book it as 6 * Road Name * Hermanus and of course when driver gets there . No response , people living there have never heard of Zack . As its a Semi detached driver triedn next door number 7.
No Zack anywhere. I let Zack know and straight away he is sending live Pin location to 6 * Road name * Hermanus. Yet no one has arrived and no one has called according to him.
Speak to operations manager in Hermanus at TCG and on live chat they are outside the house and I can hear the driver and old lady say there is no Zack there. This is the second time they are back there at 2:50pm
He then still keeps chatting away telling me the driver is going to come back after 4 after speaking with the driver. He correctly sends TCG drivers details .
I then phoned TCG operations again and said whats going on . Both the operations manager and the driver said they sort of spoke to Zack but could barely hear anything as it was so soft.
They were not coming back after 4pm as they had been there twice already.
At this stage i had, had enough and gave him ultimatums . He had earlier offered to drop the laptop at their depot in Hermanus, so i told him to do so before 5pm which of course he didn't do.
He is shocked that I'm accusing him of scamming me . Still in contact with me . He now offers me a refund ,so i send him my details and tell him to do an instant EFT and take off R 50 from total for the expense of doing it . I give him an hour to send POP. That was 2 hours ago and no payment or POP sent.
At no stage did he go quiet on me and i can only think this was his way of keeping people in the loop for as long as possible, so he could scam someone else. So when i saw his IPhone go up today I had to start a thread and warn people.
As I said to him, if he is not a scammer he should go become a Hollywood actor, because he does an amazing job of acting like one.
Anyway that;s it for today. What a waste of a day !.
I can only hope Takealot did not screw me over and there weren't any inconsistencies which they didn't mention. I spent awhile on the phone ,
confirming every detail on that invoice . if there was even a dot out of place i would have bailed, but that convinced me to go ahead in spite of my misgivings.
At the end of the day I should have bailed after the ID scenario but chose to go ahead.
I'm not expecting a resolution but I'm off to SAPS to lay a charge tomorrow morning for what its worth , if no refund is forthcoming tonight
Also contacted FNB fraud Dept. to see what they have to say about this account.
Cheers for now
Seller: @ZackF
Buyer: @Petester
Description of Bad Deal: Dodgy behavior. Probable scammer( I'm being poilte )
I contacted seller about this laptop
Went to whatsapp and chatted on there for awhile . Was just checking him out by asking questions . Very chatty, helpful kinda guy.
He provided pics and invoice and even offered that i could return the laptop after 3 and then 6 months if i was not happy.
Immediately started getting suspicious. Who does this .? Very weird but anyway.
So checked out invoice and phoned Takealot who said it was a legit invoice . Nothing had been altered.
They weren't allowed to confirm personal details, but i did it in roundabout way by giving them all his details and saying "well as long as all that is legit then i have nothing to worry about
He just said cautiously that all is fine , effectively confirming the details i gave were correct. This is what probably tilted me against my usual instincts.
Next red flag was payment . I was still feeling unsure about this guy, so when setting up his account I wanted to verify it. Std Bank require the ID No to verify the account and does it instantly.
He refused to give me his ID number citing personal privacy ,etc. He doubled down on this . Worried about identify theft /scamming etc.
I do understand some are reluctant to give out their ID No. but i wasn't asking for a copy of his ID book. I was just confirming his account and I couldn't.
So now i was on the spot . Do I buy or move on as other people wanted the laptop.
I spoke to a few people and some said they wouldn't give out their ID No. to a stranger and others saw no reason to withhold it .
Also i am well-known here so hardly going to be doing identify theft
Still I decided based on the legitimacy of the invoice, that i would proceed. I checked with Randomguy and he said he got the same cell number and guy was also very chatty with him
So i paid him on Thurs midday. Money only cleared on Sat and he informed me and as usual very chatty etc. Again not scammer like behavior. Asked me about monitors and advice ,etc
I was going to book Monday but he said Tues will be best as he is home the whole day .
So started the booking process at 8:30am this morning. I had already checked out his street address in Hermanus and it was there. What i didn't do was check his house number.
Big mistake. I did this morning and found that his address of 67 * Road name * was not possible, as the house numbers only went to 32. I immediately thought i was scammed.
So i contact him not expecting a reply, but as usual he is on and letting me know that its actually 6 * Road Name * Hermanus
His own words
"[9:25 am, 22/02/2022] Zack: Hey Pete, 67 * street name St. Is also 6 street name *
[9:34 am, 22/02/2022] Zack: It's all linked. For TCG they know 6 "
What bullshit ! I know that ive been almost certainly scammed now, but why is he still in touch and chatting ? Why am I not told this from the beginning . Why am i not given 6 as the address. Because he just made up 67 . In fact there is a 67 * street name * in Adelaide, Australia
Not expecting anything now . So i book it as 6 * Road Name * Hermanus and of course when driver gets there . No response , people living there have never heard of Zack . As its a Semi detached driver triedn next door number 7.
No Zack anywhere. I let Zack know and straight away he is sending live Pin location to 6 * Road name * Hermanus. Yet no one has arrived and no one has called according to him.
Speak to operations manager in Hermanus at TCG and on live chat they are outside the house and I can hear the driver and old lady say there is no Zack there. This is the second time they are back there at 2:50pm
He then still keeps chatting away telling me the driver is going to come back after 4 after speaking with the driver. He correctly sends TCG drivers details .
I then phoned TCG operations again and said whats going on . Both the operations manager and the driver said they sort of spoke to Zack but could barely hear anything as it was so soft.
They were not coming back after 4pm as they had been there twice already.
At this stage i had, had enough and gave him ultimatums . He had earlier offered to drop the laptop at their depot in Hermanus, so i told him to do so before 5pm which of course he didn't do.
He is shocked that I'm accusing him of scamming me . Still in contact with me . He now offers me a refund ,so i send him my details and tell him to do an instant EFT and take off R 50 from total for the expense of doing it . I give him an hour to send POP. That was 2 hours ago and no payment or POP sent.
At no stage did he go quiet on me and i can only think this was his way of keeping people in the loop for as long as possible, so he could scam someone else. So when i saw his IPhone go up today I had to start a thread and warn people.
As I said to him, if he is not a scammer he should go become a Hollywood actor, because he does an amazing job of acting like one.
Anyway that;s it for today. What a waste of a day !.
I can only hope Takealot did not screw me over and there weren't any inconsistencies which they didn't mention. I spent awhile on the phone ,
confirming every detail on that invoice . if there was even a dot out of place i would have bailed, but that convinced me to go ahead in spite of my misgivings.
At the end of the day I should have bailed after the ID scenario but chose to go ahead.
I'm not expecting a resolution but I'm off to SAPS to lay a charge tomorrow morning for what its worth , if no refund is forthcoming tonight
Also contacted FNB fraud Dept. to see what they have to say about this account.
Cheers for now
