Which Brand of memory?

[Toy Machine]

Afternoon All,

So I am searching for a 2x16gb Kit of 3200mhz (can be 3000), I don't need outright every ounce of performance. Simple OC'ing is more than fine, I would be happy with it getting 3600mhz and anything past that would be pure luxury.
More looking for reliability and good quality Die. Low Profile would just work for compatibility in future builds.
Budget at 3k tops

I know Crucial is E-die and Corsair B-die, some Gskill too. Does anyone know what Adata uses and how reliable they are?
Would it be better to wait on DDR5? (Given we don't know when it is coming but has built in ECC support to some extent.)

TIA <3

Reminder because of @Danie - Fuck RGB 😂

 

[NI∀ƆOƆ‾⊥ᴚ∩ʞ]

Just make sure it's RGB for the extra frames.

 

[goldfritter]

Afternoon All,

So I am searching for a 2x16gb Kit of 3200mhz (can be 3000), I don't need outright every ounce of performance. Simple OC'ing is more than fine, I would be happy with it getting 3600mhz and anything past that would be pure luxury.
More looking for reliability and good quality Die. Low Profile would just work for compatibility in future builds.
Budget at 3k tops

I know Crucial is E-die and Corsair B-die, some Gskill too. Does anyone know what Adata uses and how reliable they are?
Would it be better to wait on DDR5? (Given we don't know when it is coming but has built in ECC support to some extent.)

TIA <3

Reminder because of @Danie - Fuck RGB 😂

Not all the Corsair is B-die, and other brands can also have B-die. You can use tools like B-die Finder to be sure, but as a rule of thumb, the following are B-die:
- 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34
- 3600 MHz 16-16-16-36 (not 16-18-18-38)
- 4000 MHz and above, any timings.

3600 MHz is a good target. The difference between 3600 CL16 and CL18 is small.

If I were you I'd get any reputable brand and aim for a 3600 MHz kit (CL18 is fine). If you want to take a chance you can get a 3200 kit and try overclocking but the price difference is small.

When speed and timings are the same, looks are the only major difference between the brands.

If you want true low profile you will need Corsair LPX, Crucial Ballistix, G.Skill Aegis, or HyperX Fury (the non-RGB variants of all these). Other variants are not low profile, especially the G.Skill FlareX/Ripjaws.

I don't know what Adata's rep is.

I don't think there is any sense waiting for DDR5, might be ages before it's a thing.

The other occasional challenge is compatibility. Usually it won't be an issue even if the RAM is not on your mobo's QVL but if you want to be sure-sure then get a QVL kit.

 

[Toy Machine]

Not all the Corsair is B-die, and other brands can also have B-die. You can use tools like B-die Finder to be sure, but as a rule of thumb, the following are B-die:
- 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34
- 3600 MHz 16-16-16-36 (not 16-18-18-38)
- 4000 MHz and above, any timings.

3600 MHz is a good target. The difference between 3600 CL16 and CL18 is small.

If I were you I'd get any reputable brand and aim for a 3600 MHz kit (CL18 is fine). If you want to take a chance you can get a 3200 kit and try overclocking but the price difference is small.

When speed and timings are the same, looks are the only major difference between the brands.

If you want true low profile you will need Corsair LPX, Crucial Ballistix, G.Skill Aegis, or HyperX Fury (the non-RGB variants of all these). Other variants are not low profile, especially the G.Skill FlareX/Ripjaws.

I don't know what Adata's rep is.

I don't think there is any sense waiting for DDR5, might be ages before it's a thing.

The other occasional challenge is compatibility. Usually it won't be an issue even if the RAM is not on your mobo's QVL but if you want to be sure-sure then get a QVL kit.

Second half of this is pretty much what I was thinking. May as well go 3600mhz because of the price difference being so minimal.

I am aware that not all of a Brand is a specific die, partly why this thread is here is to find the specific kits that do have them.

I forgot about HyperX actually so I will give their kits a look.

Compatibility is something I'm thinking of given my boards of choice, as one is supposedly finniky with some kits.

Thanks on the timings, that will be a good guidance, as I know CL18 isn't great, but can work and won't go anything slower than that xD.

 

[AinsleyHarriott]

I swear by G.Skill, but realistically it does not matter, especially with lifetime warranties at most brands.

 

[Mike]

This kinda popped in my head yesterday. I've had really poor luck with Corsair lately, in fact I'm really disappointed in it. Out of 4 sets, 2 have needed to RMAd and one replaced set needed to be replaced again, in the last year.

YMMV, but my luck with them has been really bad lately.

 

[JollyJamma]

Afternoon All,

So I am searching for a 2x16gb Kit of 3200mhz (can be 3000), I don't need outright every ounce of performance. Simple OC'ing is more than fine, I would be happy with it getting 3600mhz and anything past that would be pure luxury.
More looking for reliability and good quality Die. Low Profile would just work for compatibility in future builds.
Budget at 3k tops

I know Crucial is E-die and Corsair B-die, some Gskill too. Does anyone know what Adata uses and how reliable they are?
Would it be better to wait on DDR5? (Given we don't know when it is coming but has built in ECC support to some extent.)

TIA <3

Reminder because of @Danie - Fuck RGB 😂

I am a huge fan of Crucial Ballistix 3200. It's Micron Rev E and can do 2000mhz (DDR4-4000) quite easily but not with the tightest of timings.

That being said, R3380 will buy you two kits for a dual rank setup which reduces your memory latency by a lot. It also helps Zen 3 performance just having 4 sticks of RAM.

Yes, Samsung B Die will outperform Micron Rev E. buuuut it's almost twice the cost for a 2 by 8gig set.

If I had the money to throw at RAM, I'd get Patriot Viper Steel 4400 which is very fast Samsung B Die. It's expensive though.

 

[HNO3ZA]

I must say, Im happy with mine, all I do is activate the DOCP on AMD in bios to run @ 3800Mhz. I have the below.

32GB (4 x 8Gb) G.SKill Trident Z Neo DDR4 3800MHZ CL14-16-16-36

When it comes to type of rams etc, my knowledge is little. So I took the advice from someone with a tad bit more knowledge than myself haha.

 

[HNO3ZA]

@goldfritter wat lag jy haha.... moenie mense spot wat fokkol weet nie lol

 

[goldfritter]

@goldfritter wat lag jy haha.... moenie mense spot wat fokkol weet nie lol

Nee ek lag net want nie almal het R 5k+ vir RAM nie dan sou mense nie sulke threads hoef te maak om te vra wat moet hulle kry nie

 

[JollyJamma]

I must say, Im happy with mine, all I do is activate the DOCP on AMD in bios to run @ 3800Mhz. I have the below.

32GB (4 x 8Gb) G.SKill Trident Z Neo DDR4 3800MHZ CL14-16-16-36

When it comes to type of rams etc, my knowledge is little. So I took the advice from someone with a tad bit more knowledge than myself haha.

What are the modules onboard? Use CPU-Z to figure it out. Trident Z is nice but expensive.

4 modules at 3600 14-16-16-36 should be better than Micron Rev E but I’d like to know how much you paid.

 

[Toy Machine]

I should mention that it is for ITX so I have to stay on 2 DIMMS. Trident Z's are an awesome kit but they are hella fokken expensive xD
It is being paired with a 3700x also hence why 3600mhz is the ideal target because there isn't much performance gains after that if I remember correctly. Only thing to really play with is trying to get stable tighter timings, but again if you've already OC'd them beyond XMP the timing would pretty much be as stable as they will be xD

 

[Dom]

Just make sure it's RGB for the extra frames.

Naaah - the least RGB puke.

 

[Dom]

Afternoon All,

So I am searching for a 2x16gb Kit of 3200mhz (can be 3000), I don't need outright every ounce of performance. Simple OC'ing is more than fine, I would be happy with it getting 3600mhz and anything past that would be pure luxury.
More looking for reliability and good quality Die. Low Profile would just work for compatibility in future builds.
Budget at 3k tops

I know Crucial is E-die and Corsair B-die, some Gskill too. Does anyone know what Adata uses and how reliable they are?
Would it be better to wait on DDR5? (Given we don't know when it is coming but has built in ECC support to some extent.)

TIA <3

Reminder because of @Danie - Fuck RGB 😂

Oh yeah, one that also means you take back your G12 (imminent wololo)

 

[Toy Machine]

Oh yeah, one that also means you take back your G12 (imminent wololo)

One that also means you should return it because you borrowed it right?

 

[Dom]

One that also means you should return it because you borrowed it right?

Well fuckin' communicate with me then

 

[JollyJamma]

I should mention that it is for ITX so I have to stay on 2 DIMMS. Trident Z's are an awesome kit but they are hella fokken expensive xD
It is being paired with a 3700x also hence why 3600mhz is the ideal target because there isn't much performance gains after that if I remember correctly. Only thing to really play with is trying to get stable tighter timings, but again if you've already OC'd them beyond XMP the timing would pretty much be as stable as they will be xD

So if RAM prices were higher, I’d suggest getting 2 by 16gigs because of the gains of having dual rank RAM.

Hooowever, with RAM modules so cheap, they moved from smaller RAM chips to larger ones.

This means that only one side of the whole PCB needs to be populated so you only get single rank.

For a daily gaming rig that you don’t want to overclock too hard, any RAM will do.

 

[Toy Machine]

So if RAM prices were higher, I’d suggest getting 2 by 16gigs because of the gains of having dual rank RAM.

Hooowever, with RAM modules so cheap, they moved from smaller RAM chips to larger ones.

This means that only one side of the whole PCB needs to be populated so you only get single rank.

For a daily gaming rig that you don’t want to overclock too hard, any RAM will do.

It will be for work as well so any performance benefit I can get out of it will be best.

Not focused on 1-2% gains as I won't justifiably see that performance benefit, once we get 10%+ out of an OC then it will be justifiable.

 

[HNO3ZA]

What are the modules onboard? Use CPU-Z to figure it out. Trident Z is nice but expensive.

4 modules at 3600 14-16-16-36 should be better than Micron Rev E but I’d like to know how much you paid.

Not sure what I must do or look for, excuse the lack of knowledge on my part.

https://imgur.com/a/O60Sm8t

 

[HNO3ZA]

Ja @Dom Im also pondering... haha

 

[Dom]

Ja @Dom Im also pondering... haha

Hehe, looks fine to me but memory stuff is mostly jibber jabber XD

 

[JollyJamma]

Not sure what I must do or look for, excuse the lack of knowledge on my part.

Second page, memory manufacturer is Samsung. It's B Die. Very very nice but very very expensive.

With a little more voltage and some tweaking, you could tighten those timings and get a nice performance boost. (although with 4 sticks of RAM, you can't push as far as if you had two). The second value as per RAM timings is far more important than the first.

Samsung B Die has a very very tight second value. It also puts a lot more stress on the memory controller of the CPU so most high end overclocks with RAM use an AMD 4750G CPU as it has the best RAM controller of all the CPUs.

 

[LouisABC]

I don't do RGB, so was looking at the following:

TeamGroup TDZAD432G3600HC18JDC01 T-Force Dark Zα (For AMD) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory - Wootware

Buy TeamGroup TDZAD432G3600HC18JDC01 T-Force Dark Zα (For AMD) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.

www.wootware.co.za

ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz CL18 Memory Kit — Black

The XPG GAMMIX D20 DDR4 memory module is like a vigilante rising from the darkness. Its stealthy 4133MHz performance and sinister black exterior will strike fear into the heart of any opponent. The GAMMIX D20 sports an intimidating black or gray heatsink

progenix.co.za

@Oj0 - How is the Adata memory? Worthwhile?

Currently running Patriot Viper Steel 2x 8Gb and very happy. IFC set to 1:1, tightened timing a bit and kept it at 3,733Mhz. No stability issues at all, on a B550i Gigabyte.

 

[Oj0]

This kinda popped in my head yesterday. I've had really poor luck with Corsair lately, in fact I'm really disappointed in it. Out of 4 sets, 2 have needed to RMAd and one replaced set needed to be replaced again, in the last year.

YMMV, but my luck with them has been really bad lately.

A kit you passed on from me had to be RMA'd recently as well - guess that makes it three

I don't do RGB, so was looking at the following:

TeamGroup TDZAD432G3600HC18JDC01 T-Force Dark Zα (For AMD) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory - Wootware

Buy TeamGroup TDZAD432G3600HC18JDC01 T-Force Dark Zα (For AMD) 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3600MHz CL18 1.35V Black Desktop Memory at Wootware with fast shipping & superb service.

www.wootware.co.za

ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 DRAM 3600MHz CL18 Memory Kit — Black

The XPG GAMMIX D20 DDR4 memory module is like a vigilante rising from the darkness. Its stealthy 4133MHz performance and sinister black exterior will strike fear into the heart of any opponent. The GAMMIX D20 sports an intimidating black or gray heatsink

progenix.co.za

@Oj0 - How is the Adata memory? Worthwhile?

Currently running Patriot Viper Steel 2x 8Gb and very happy. IFC set to 1:1, tightened timing a bit and kept it at 3,733Mhz. No stability issues at all, on a B550i Gigabyte.

I just voted ADATA. Against the grain for sure, but I've seen such stupidly low failure rates on it over the last five years it's become my go-to brand. SSDs (lower than WD and Samsung) and RAM (lower than Corsair and Kingston).

 

[goldfritter]

A kit you passed on from me had to be RMA'd recently as well - guess that makes it three

This is disheartening given the Corsair RAM in my rig

I just voted ADATA. Against the grain for sure, but I've seen such stupidly low failure rates on it over the last five years it's become my go-to brand. SSDs (lower than WD and Samsung) and RAM (lower than Corsair and Kingston).

This is reassuring given the ADATA NVMe in my rig

 

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[Rickster]

High frequency RAM is a sham, thats why i went with 2400mhz

You get like 2 FPS more with 3200mhz.

 

[Bradda511]

I should mention that it is for ITX so I have to stay on 2 DIMMS. Trident Z's are an awesome kit but they are hella fokken expensive xD
It is being paired with a 3700x also hence why 3600mhz is the ideal target because there isn't much performance gains after that if I remember correctly. Only thing to really play with is trying to get stable tighter timings, but again if you've already OC'd them beyond XMP the timing would pretty much be as stable as they will be xD

May i PM you some RAMAMAMAMAMAAMMMMM RAM

 

[Toy Machine]

High frequency RAM is a sham, thats why i went with 2400mhz

You get like 2 FPS more with 3200mhz.

But you do get performance in rendering and other production loads

 

[JollyJamma]

High frequency RAM is a sham, thats why i went with 2400mhz

You get like 2 FPS more with 3200mhz.

Depends on the game. You can get a big uplift in performance with certain titles.

Having 4 sticks of RAM can give you better performance with Zen 3