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Updated on 9 June 2020 at 20h24 (1440p Gsync range)
Updated on 9 June 2020 at 19h58 (Comparison 1440p vs 1080p)
Updated on 9 June 2020 at 17h18 (Nvidia settings - 1440p 120hz)
Updated on 8 June 2020 at 23h19 (see 27 inch monitor info)


Note the cables definitely affect the max refresh rate. I tried a bunch f no name brand cable. They have limited my refresh rate.


Resolution Advertised 1080P but IT CAN DO 1440p at 120 hz. (see pictures below)

Gsync range at 1440p.
Minimum fps = 50 hence minimum refresh rate = 50 hz

anything below 50 causes the monitor to flash a black screen(tested using Nvidia pendulum video)

xceed at 1080p


Xceed at 1440p

27 inch Xceed monitor settings (120hz at 1440p)



Proof 1440p 120 hz


CS GO

 
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Xceed 27 Inch
Price 2999

Resolution Advertised 1080P but IT CAN DO 1440p at 120 hz. (see pictures below)

Xceed byte model
Refresh rate 144hz (165 Hz with AMD and hdmi)
VRR : Fressync certified, Will work with Gsync
Ports HDMI, DP
Panel type : VA (info provide by Firestorm (thanks bud, he was brave enough to open it up.))
Included: HDMI cable

Power supply is a separate brick. Power cable is RSA spec three prong

VESA mounting : 75 x 75


VRR : Freesync certified, Will work with Gsync.

Notes for VRR:

AMD
Freesync will work correctly on HDMI .

Nvidia
VRR will require the DP cable.
HDMI will do 144hz but will not be VRR.

Lower limit of panel is apparently 48hz with VRR.


The 27 inch model is a very thin panel. It seems to get hot during extended use

Proof 1440p 120 hz


CS GO



This is only for tech specs. The other thread is a discussion thread.

Link to discussion thread

There is alot of good information in the discussion thread but it is interspersed with comments and is becoming hard to find the techincal information quickly.












Xceed 24 Inch
Price 1999
Resolution: 1080P
Refresh rate 144hz
Other features: HDR
Xceed byte model 10681410
Ports HDMI, DP
Panel type Samsung
Panel model: lsm236hp02
Panel Subtype : TFT LED
Included: HDMI cable

Power supply is a separate brick. Power cable is RSA spec three prong

VESA mounting : 75 x 75


VRR : Freesync certified, Will work with Gsync.

Notes for VRR:

AMD
Freesync will work correctly on HDMI .

Nvidia
VRR will require the DP cable.
HDMI will do 144hz but will not be VRR.

Lower limit of panel is apparently 48hz with VRR.

Samsung panel Detailed tech information:
Tech info : 8 bit panel

Diagnostic screen info
Model b JY85QS
PNL: M240HW01
FW : V001



SAMSUNG LSM236HP02-G Overview - Panelook.com


This is only for tech specs. The other thread is a discussion thread.

Link to discussion thread

There is alot of good information in the discussion thread but it is interspersed with comments and is becoming hard to find the techincal information quickly.
 
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Notes

You need the Checkers Xtra saving card to qualify for this price.

Hardware requirements

Cabling

HDMI versions:


You need HDMI 1.3 or higher to get 144hz. The port on the GPU and the cable must be 1.3 or higher.

VRR over HDMI is only support with AMD freesync.

Display port

You need a DP to DP cable to have VRR on an NVIDIA card.



Problems


A DP to HDMI converter cable will not work.

Use either the included HDMI cable or buy a GOOD quality DP cable.

Laptop with dual GPUs.

You cannot disable the Intel GPU. However if you have the NVIDIA control panel software, you can set the laptop to always use the NVIDIA GPU. This can drive the monitor with gsync. However you need a DP to DP cable to do this.

Display port cabling information


Other

Regarding where the panel can do higher than 1080p resolutions: The panel is limited to 1080p gaming. You can do virtual resolutions.

Advise regarding whether to adjust settings via monitor OSD or Windows software

AMD Radeon Display settings seems to do a better job of getting the screen calibrated to my liking than the settings on the actual monitor, I would suggest using this to refine the settings once you're happy with the monitor settings to get that sweet spot

Recommended settings

Gama: 1.20
Digital vibrance: 100

Red = 50
Green = 49
Blue = 45

24 inch settings

Red: 55
Green: 45
Blue: 54

Brightness - 75
Contrast - 50
Black Level - 20


Windows setting - Enable HDR and adjusted whiteness there - 29
Monitor setting - Changed to HDR
Nvidia - Lowered brightness by 10, increase contrast by 5, increase digital vibrance by 5 (makes a big difference in colour)

27 inch specific settings

Monitor:
Brightness: 60
Contrast: 60
Black Level: 35
Low Blue Light Level: 0
Eco: Standard
DCR: Off

Color Temp: User
Red: 45
Green: 45
Blue: 46

Nvidia control panel:
Use Nvidia Color Settings
Color Depth: 32-bit
Color Depth: 8bpc
Output Color Format: RGB
Output Dynamic Range: Full

Adjust desktop color settings:
Digital vibrance: 60%
Content Type reported to display: Full-screen videos (don't think that makes a difference though).
 
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Gaming cliff notes.

The 24 inch is ideal for gaming at 1080p.
It works with both Nvidia and AMD cards for VRR
The included HDMI cable will allow VRR on AMD cards
The colours out of the box looks better on the 24 inch screen(compared to 27 inch).

You need to buy a decent DP cable for VRR on Nvidia. You also need to do the Nvidia software mod to enable VRR on a non certified panel.

How to force Gsync on non certified panel

The 27 inch is a very thin panel and looks better. The stand is very flimsy and feels like it can fall over easily. It has a different stand than the 24 inch screen.

Ideally you would want a 1440p resolution for gaming on a 27 inch screen. The colours are washed out.


Testing the monitor

Nvidia G-Sync demo

Various monitor testing options (refresh rate, etc)

Do not use firefox. Use latest chrome version


Link to Reddit tested freesync monitors


Variable refresh rate vs Fixed rate (Why you should buy the correct cable)


 
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Reviews 27 Inch

This is a re-post. I just made it easier to read and credited the original author

Xceed 27 inch 1080p 144hz monitor

Ricardo da Rocha‎ posted to ZA Gaming Alliance
Vaal university of technology Lecturer

Hey everyone,

So I saw the post this morning regarding feedback on the Xceed Byte 24 & 27 inch monitor they’re selling at a Checkers (on special for R1999 and R2999 respectively). I’m not sure if it was posted yesterday or today, but someone mentioned they ended up getting one and that it was 144hz with HDR (HDR is mentioned in the ad).

People were requesting evidence but I’m not sure if the OP ever posted it or not and now I can’t find the post anymore.

I decided to go have a look. First thing I did was ask the salesperson in the tech section whether they had anymore info on the monitor ... they didn’t. Then I double-checked whether it would be possible to return the monitor if it didn’t have the features mentioned of the ad or if I wasn’t satisfied, and I was told it was possible. So I bit bullet and got one of the 27 inch models to try out.

For my initial tests, I left the monitor in the sleeve (I wanted it as pristine as possible in case I decide to return it). I haven’t even mounted it on the included stand yet, it’s literally propped up on my desk with its power supply behind it. I’ve even used the HDMI cable and power cable from my Dell monitor. Eventually I took the sleeve off to see the HDR properly in games.

Low and behold, the OP of the other post was right. The monitor is capable of 144hz, HDR and (supposedly) Freesync. Take into account I’m coming from a Dell SE2717H (IPS FHD panel, 75hz, Freesync - which I couldn’t use because I have an Nvidia card and to use Freesync with Nvidia you need a display port, which the Dell doesn’t have).

Let me expand:

144hz - I can get my desktop refresh rate to 144hz and I can set my games to 144fps. I’m used to 75hz, but it feels smoother to me. My FPS counter in Destiny 2 and HotS says I’m getting 144fps (and shows dips when there are dips).

HDR - Windows detects the monitor as having HDR capabilities. You can enable it and after playing around with the settings I could get it working in Windows and displaying in games (I tested Division 2, AC Origins and Destiny 2). Yes, the HDR isn’t great but it’s there and Destiny 2 actually looked ok with it on). It’s only an 8-bit panel, and I would guess the brightness to be around the 250-300 nit range (true HDR requires 1000 nits and a 10-bit panel). Most entry level TVs with HDR, even the entry level Samsung TVs, have the same specs (check TV reviews on rtings.com) Also, remember that HDR on Windows 10 is still a mess, though it has gotten better. I may test my PS4 Pro on it just to see how things look as I’ve tested other HDR monitors and TVs on my PC and they never look great with HDR enabled, but the minute I tested a console the panel looked great.

Freesync - the option is there in the settings, but the monitor doesn’t come with a display port cable and I have an Nvidia card, so I’m unable to test the Freesync support until I get a display port cable (if I end up keeping it ... a bit more on that later).

Panel - the panel seems decent, nothing spectacular. I can’t determine who the manufacturer of the panel is but if I had to hazard a guess I’d say the panel type is VA. It’s a bit hard to tell. The panel is matte so the colours are a bit muted, but it’s not as colourful as my a Dell IPS which also has a matte coating. Then again, I haven’t played with the colour settings, so this could possibly change. What throws me is that the viewing angles are extremely good, which is a known weakness of TN and VA panels. However, I can’t believe it can have a 144hz IPS panel at this price, but I may be wrong. 🤷🏻‍♂️ In terms of stuck or dead pixels, my panel doesn’t have a single one.

Other stuff - very creative category I know. In terms of quality, the monitor actually feels pretty premium. It’s very solidly built and the bezel and frame is made of metal, while the back is plastic. The panel is very slim, with a “butt” on the back on the bottom that houses all the connectors and electronics, similar to higher end LED TVs and OLED TVs that I’ve seen. It has an HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2 port, and an audio out 3.5mm jack (no built-in speakers). The only complaint I have is that the Xceed logo X on the front is slightly crooked, but that could be my unit. The stand and mounting arm also seem to be made of metal, with minor swivel adjustment functionality.

I’m attaching a few photos I took of Destiny 2 and the FPS counter. I’ve also included photos of the Windows 10 monitor settings (sorry about the these, that was when the monitor was still in the sleeve). I also included a photo of GPUz and MonitorInfoViewer which I used to read the EDID date from the monitor.

Now stick with me for a second while I tell a tale us more ... mature (relative to the majority of ZAGA I mean) PC gamers will remember. A few years ago, when high refresh rate monitors were very scarce in SA, and those found here were prohibitively expensive, a lot of SA PC gamers with the means imported generic HFR monitors from Asia (i.e. no brand names). So the panels themselves were manufactured by Samsung or LG, but then Chinese manufacturers would take the panels and create generic monitors that didn’t have the full warranty of a Dell, or the frame quality of an HP, etc. and would sell them relatively cheap. It was much cheaper back then to buy these panels, even with import and duty fees (or so I hear, I never had one. Also, the Rand was much stronger against the US Dollar back then). Sometimes it would work out: you could overclock the panel to 120hz or 144hz if you were lucky, sometimes you were unlucky and you couldn’t, or you could but you’d have a few dead pixels. It was called the panel lottery back then.

I suspect that’s what we might have here. Checkers (or a company on behalf on Checkers) is importing these monitors really cheaply and rebranding them with the Xceed branding for Checkers). I seem to have gotten lucky with the panel lottery. I’m not saying that in this case there is a panel lottery ... quality control has gotten much better I’m sure and the yield rates for these panels are much higher then when they first started making an appearance. But if there is a panel lottery, at least the supplier and warranty is local, unlike a few years ago.

I can’t tell yet if I’m going to keep the monitor yet. I’m more interested in display technologies like HDR rather than pure FPS/HFR since I don’t play competitive FPS games. But at least we now have some idea about the monitors from Checkers, and the closest competitor I can find is a 144hz 24 inch monitor for R3999.

TL;DR - the Xceed Byte monitor at Checkers (at least the 27 inch one) seemingly is 144hz, HDR with (theoretically) Freesync. I promise nothing though (read the full post).

Ps - sorry for the photos, I was too lazy to do screenshots of the programs. Also, please ignore the slightly messy desk. In the middle of rearranging things.





 

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Review Checkers desk mounted monitor arms

Author: mornelourens17


dual monitor arms. Already set up and I must say, they feel pretty decent IMO.

Two quirks:

The first would be the small plastic piece that links the VESA plate on the monitor side, to the arm. It looks cheap and could possibly break easily. Everything else feels like a decent sturdy metal, apart from this.

The second is that It is struggling to hold my Dell 27" on the tilt. In the manual they indicate that you just need to tighten a screw for a heavier monitor, but I'm not sure I can go any further without stripping the thing.

On the bright side, I really like the cable trays which it has.
 
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Confirmed stock availability


Checkers pavilion (3 june 2020)
There is stock at Game Pavillion ( 31 May 2020)

Other info.

I will pretty up the thread later.(spelling and layout errors)
 
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Guys, am I the only one thinking this screen, at least the 27" model, is an absolute piece of Chinese k#k?

The colours are terribly faded. HDR looks like an LSD trip. The Ghosting is horrendous.

To add insult to injury, mine has a dead pixel.

The only positive is that it looks nice. It has a very small bevel, and has brushed metal all around.
 

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@aiccc what's the response time on these screens? Looking at getting one soon

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This video demonstrates why you need the correct cable for VRR.

Nvidia card
You need to buy a proper display port to display port cable for VRR to work

AMD
The included cable on 27 inch moitor will work for VRR.

 

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You sure it’s actually running 1440p and not just reporting the input resolution? LCD displays look like poop below their native (highest) resolution so you’d easily tell if 1080p isn’t the native resolution.
 

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Would you mind publishing the timing settings used in Geforce Control Panel to get the 1440p resolution to work?
 

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New info for 27 inch monitor - 1440p
Hooray if it is 1440p, but found the below ,Quoting this from another page i found

"You arent on that 1440p resolution. It's just your pc is tricking its gpu that the monitor is 1440p so it outputs 1440p signal to your monitor. Your monitor would then down sample it to 1080p so that it can output image since the maximum real resolution your monitor can output is 1080p"

" it's rendering your games at 1440P then downsampling the image to 1080P so its not really 1440P your getting but it does help your image quality all the same. A native 1440P monitor will look better then a 1080P one even when rendered @1440P then downsampled".
 

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Well my Dell 27 ips at 1920 playing the same game shows less clear FoV than the xceeed at 1440p.

I will post a pic later.

Why don't you try it and lets us know?

Most monitors will say out of sync or no signal when you send it a higher non supported res. (That what the dell does.)
 
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Well my Dell 27 ips at 1920 playing the same game shows less FoV than the xceeed at 1440p.

I will post a pic later.

Why don't you try it and lets us know?

Most monitors will say out of sync or no signal when you send it a higher non supported res. (That what the dell does.)
I am all for testing, I mean all my Qnix monitors I owned I could get too 120Hz when others couldn't or struggled.

Was merely an observation which I hope is wrong and you guys get the full benefit, if it is indeed 1440 capable, which judging by the info looks solid.

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Something I found on my 27".

When I plug in the HDMI provided the screen is registered as 8bit.
When I plug in my DP cable I get 10bit.
I believe this means slightly better colours? I'm not an expert on this topic.

Switching cables I can't really tel a difference, perhaps someone with 2x 27 screens can do a side-by-side comparison?
 

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I updated the first post.
1440p vs 1080p

I set the screen at 1080p. Then put two browser frames on the screen. Took a photo.

Then I changed the screen res to 1440p. Took another photo.

See the added space (pixels) on the 1440p resolution photo
 

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Ok, so how do you guysget these things to do 1440 @ 120 ?
 

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Add below settings (this is DP - GSYNC). (HDMI is different)

run restart 64. Then select resolution from options. I would do a test before applying, esp if you have one screen.

HDMI is 120 at 1440p (no gsync)

 

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Okay I am working on correcting vblank settings to push higher rates.

Please can you guys do this and post the info here

Note important: specify if you are using a hdmi or DP cable and nvidia or AMD card.

Can you download monitorinfoview and run it. Select view, lower pane, all display modes. Then past your info. This will help in setting up the custom res.

Please post in the summary thread
 

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Anyone able to help set it to 1440P 144Hz on IntelHD 630 graphics using HDMI
I would have to test that by removing my nvidia card. I also have a AMD card.

Quite frankly I do not think the intel card can push that pixel rate. Try the 60 hz refresh first.

Update

Look here under the result spoiler.

 
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