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Should I report this client.

  • Report the Client

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Put offer on the table and state the privacy law they are breaking if they do not fix it. I rmv site

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Inform Law enforcement , create a case. Inform my clients clients/users

    Votes: 17 53.1%
  • Do nothing, say goodbye to client. Leave site as is, and can be blamed for this.

    Votes: 1 3.1%

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TechN3rd

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Sorry I meant in general not you specifically.
A breach must be reported within 72 hours of becoming aware of same.
It HAS to be reported. Do not become the fall guy for these people.
The information regulator takes this very very seriously contact them for specific advice..
So I contact someone with the link you provided. Simply ask for advice from them?

Although, do I move the client to my servers for now ?
Do I alert the police as well ?

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Step 1 - Create your own site similar to the one that they have in operation but with all rules and legislation in compliance
Step 2 - Inform the client and police of the situation of the current clients site
Step 3 - Offer the users of the site and the clients clients your alternative site
Step 4 - Profit
Step 5 - Drink the blood of your enemies

Step 5 is really optional but I like the dramatic effect...
Remove step 3
MSI1104 MSI1104 what do you think about Maximums_Rickimus Maximums_Rickimus solution ?

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So I contact someone with the link you provided. Simply ask for advice from them?

Although, do I move the client to my servers for now ?
Do I alert the police as well ?

-TechN3rd
Okay in this instance the information regulator is the "police". Don't touch the site or do anything that will incriminate yourself. Always start at the regulator.
 

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Okay in this instance the information regulator is the "police". Don't touch the site or do anything that will incriminate yourself. Always start at the regulator.
This. Hands off. Stop where you are. Do not pass begin. Do not collect R200. No more touchy.

Inform the information regulator. They will take it from there.
 

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Okay in this instance the information regulator is the "police". Don't touch the site or do anything that will incriminate yourself. Always start at the regulator.
I kinda logged into the panel made a backup of the database and the site, I did that about 4 times, since this database and site grows daily.

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Pretty sure it's illegal for a freelancer so steal IP, nevermind an entire company/idea :ROFLMAO: Anything you do for a client belongs to the client.
Though I guess it will depend on what you signed (contract/nda/etc etc) But at the very least it would be unethical. As a potential client, I would 200% not give you any work, knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind.

As for the whistle blowing, as the SABC says.. It's the right thing to do ( minus the tv license part :p )
Good luck!
 

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This. Hands off. Stop where you are. Do not pass begin. Do not collect R200. No more touchy.

Inform the information regulator. They will take it from there.
>>> "This. Hands off. Stop where you are. Do not pass begin. Do not collect R200. No more touchy."
😂😂

You made me laugh and stare at the screen for a moment.

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Pretty sure it's illegal for a freelancer so steal IP, nevermind an entire company/idea :ROFLMAO: Anything you do for a client belongs to the client.
Though I guess it will depend on what you signed (contract/nda/etc etc) But at the very least it would be unethical. As a potential client, I would 200% not give you any work, knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind.

As for the whistle blowing, as the SABC says.. It's the right thing to do ( minus the tv license part :p )
Good luck!
>>> Pretty sure it's illegal for a freelancer so steal IP, nevermind an entire company/idea.

Explain please?
>>> Though I guess it will depend on what you signed (contract/nda/etc etc) But at the very least it would be unethical

I signed nothing, nada, jack $#!7. I just got this client on Friday, met up with them on Monday.

>>> As a potential client, I would 200% not give you any work, knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind
--- knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind ---

What does that mean ?


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I am referring to what Maximums mentioned. And the fact that it seems like you are considering it?
As a start, I would suggest you get some customer contracts. To protect them and yourself.
>>> As a potential client, I would 200% not give you any work, knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind
--- knowing that you would just copy or steal what I paid you to work on... Keep that in mind ---

What does that mean ?
I am saying, myself personally, as a potential client, would not use you or your services, knowing that you would just take my stuff (IP) , slap a new logo on it, and contact MY clients saying you are offering a new/better service similar to what I paid you to host/service. Does that make sense?
 

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I am referring to what Maximums mentioned. And the fact that it seems like you are considering it?
As a start, I would suggest you get some customer contracts. To protect them and yourself.


I am saying, myself personally, as a potential client, would not use you or your services, knowing that you would just take my stuff (IP) , slap a new logo on it, and contact MY clients saying you are offering a new/better service similar to what I paid you to host/service. Does that make sense?
>>> I am saying, myself personally, as a potential client, would not use you or your services, knowing that you would just take my stuff (IP) , slap a new logo on it

Oops, you misunderstood me.

>>and contact MY clients saying you are offering a new/better service similar to what I paid you to host/service

I would never do that. Let me re-read his post.

remove step 3

What I was considering, I thought I would create a working version of my clients site and show them the difference. Without the leak in information. So I can put a deal on the table. I simply fix up the mess the previous developer made and secure all content that is leaking. I will offer my price and if they do not wish to use the service, then I guess I have to report them.

Although MSI1104 MSI1104 made some awesome inputs, I have contacted the IRS. I will have to see what they have to say, will be going to law enforcement tomorrow as well. I could not find the time to go today.
 

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Don't waste your time dude... As a matter of fact I think you've wasted more than enough time on this particular client.

Wrap it up. Report them to the regulatory. Send them a nice email that you are declining their offer and move on. :)

Simple, straight forward.
 

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No touchy. Inform the information regulator and get the hell out of dodge.

What if someone reports the site to the information regulator six months down the line and you're involved (even if your work fixed the royal shit show that they're in now)? Is it worth the 3 x R1k?
 

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No touchy. Inform the information regulator and get the hell out of dodge.

What if someone reports the site to the information regulator six months down the line and you're involved (even if your work fixed the royal shit show that they're in now)? Is it worth the 3 x R1k?
I'll Never work for that price.

No way never worth it, I was never going to take the job in the first place. Needed some advice to see what steps I should take to inform the information regulator.

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MSI1104 MSI1104 PandaAttack1 PandaAttack1 I have contacted the IRSA Home l InfoRegSA

Turns out they do not reply. Sent an email the same time I got the link and I'm still waiting. Corruption runs deep in this country. I truly want to do the right thing but also I don't want to be imprisoned for something that I was not even involved in.

So, yeah. I guess the best thing is move on and remember (don't think Ill forget that client that offered my 3K).

What a waste of time -_-
 

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MSI1104 MSI1104 PandaAttack1 PandaAttack1 I have contacted the IRSA Home l InfoRegSA

Turns out they do not reply. Sent an email the same time I got the link and I'm still waiting. Corruption runs deep in this country. I truly want to do the right thing but also I don't want to be imprisoned for something that I was not even involved in.

So, yeah. I guess the best thing is move on and remember (don't think Ill forget that client that offered my 3K).

What a waste of time -_-
Yeah dude, I see no point in pursuing this further. Interesting story to tell, but other than that it now really is just a waste of your time. :D

There are a few books you could read regarding business practices and how to deal with certain 'clients'. I will see if I can get you the titles.
 

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MSI1104 MSI1104 PandaAttack1 PandaAttack1 I have contacted the IRSA Home l InfoRegSA

Turns out they do not reply. Sent an email the same time I got the link and I'm still waiting. Corruption runs deep in this country. I truly want to do the right thing but also I don't want to be imprisoned for something that I was not even involved in.

So, yeah. I guess the best thing is move on and remember (don't think Ill forget that client that offered my 3K).

What a waste of time -_-
Thats weird. I know they a new department and are very understaffed.( 6 people from what i can tell) but they are usually on the ball.
 

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Yeah dude, I see no point in pursuing this further. Interesting story to tell, but other than that it now really is just a waste of your time. :D

There are a few books you could read regarding business practices and how to deal with certain 'clients'. I will see if I can get you the titles.
Thats weird. I know they a new department and are very understaffed.( 6 people from what i can tell) but they are usually on the ball.
Thank you guys for helping me. I really do appreciate the help.

MSI1104 MSI1104 Funny part the police told me to do the same thing, put my 30K offer or no deal. I got more advice from you guys than our actual police department.

PandaAttack1 PandaAttack1 Thanks for taking your time to help find those titles <3

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