Changed cpu - now only crashes.

[eY_b0ss]

Hi guys, so I recently changed GPU + CPU.

I had the GPU 2 days before the CPU, and played all my games as per usual, even did benchmarking on RDR2 and Cyberpunk with no flaws.

Fast forward to yesterday, received the 5700X3D (changed from 5600x), clean installation of windows - all my games crash. Even dota 2 crashes. I am at a loss.

Seems that when I disable the XMP profile on my memory it stops crashing, but then I've noticed my performance is worse in some games than with my 5600x, so that's braindead.

Any advise would be appreciated. The CPU is brand new.

System specs:
Ryzen 7 5700X3D
RX 6950 XT
32GB DDR4 3600 CL18 Teamgroup Night Hawk
Gigabyte X570i aorus pro wifi

 

[Signor65]

I had a similar issue with my 5800X3D. I had to disable the XMP profile for my GSkill 3600MHz RAM, otherwise I would get crashes non stop.

I think it's a limitation of the 3D Cache on the 5000 series. They don't like too much speed.

So what I did is, I enabled XMP, noted down what the voltage, timings etc get set to, then disabled XMP, and then manually set things up to match that. The only difference being instead of 3600MHz, I set it to 3200MHz. There's a chance I could squeeze some more out of it, but eh

Works like a charm.

 

[BlueCrayon]

On my 7600x, I turned XMP on then immediately after I started to crash occasionally while playing games.

I put XMP off for a few days, re-enabled it and then I haven't crashed since.

 

[Areola Grande]

Is your motherboard BIOS fully updated? There have been BIOS updates for 3D V-cache CPUs and memory stability.

 

[eY_b0ss]

Is your motherboard BIOS fully updated? There have been BIOS updates for 3D V-cache CPUs and memory stability.

yes running the latest BIOS.

I had a similar issue with my 5800X3D. I had to disable the XMP profile for my GSkill 3600MHz RAM, otherwise I would get crashes non stop.

I think it's a limitation of the 3D Cache on the 5000 series. They don't like too much speed.

So what I did is, I enabled XMP, noted down what the voltage, timings etc get set to, then disabled XMP, and then manually set things up to match that. The only difference being instead of 3600MHz, I set it to 3200MHz. There's a chance I could squeeze some more out of it, but eh

Works like a charm.

Thank you gonna give this a try.

 

[Switch]

Hi guys, so I recently changed GPU + CPU.

I had the GPU 2 days before the CPU, and played all my games as per usual, even did benchmarking on RDR2 and Cyberpunk with no flaws.

Fast forward to yesterday, received the 5700X3D (changed from 5600x), clean installation of windows - all my games crash. Even dota 2 crashes. I am at a loss.

Seems that when I disable the XMP profile on my memory it stops crashing, but then I've noticed my performance is worse in some games than with my 5600x, so that's braindead.

Any advise would be appreciated. The CPU is brand new.

System specs:
Ryzen 7 5700X3D
RX 6950 XT
32GB DDR4 3600 CL18 Teamgroup Night Hawk
Gigabyte X570i aorus pro wifi

Unfortunately sounds like a limited memory controller on your cpu only able to do up to the rated memory speed, assuming you have matched ram. Try 3200mhz and see if it works, and try different brand ram (more specifically a different memory die like from samsung or micron, try avoid nanya).

I had a similar issue with my 5800X3D. I had to disable the XMP profile for my GSkill 3600MHz RAM, otherwise I would get crashes non stop.

I think it's a limitation of the 3D Cache on the 5000 series. They don't like too much speed.

So what I did is, I enabled XMP, noted down what the voltage, timings etc get set to, then disabled XMP, and then manually set things up to match that. The only difference being instead of 3600MHz, I set it to 3200MHz. There's a chance I could squeeze some more out of it, but eh

Works like a charm.

I have a 5800x3d that does xmp 3600mhz just fine.

 

[Signor65]

Unfortunately sounds like a limited memory controller on your cpu only able to do the rated memory speed (assuming you have matched ram)



I have a 5800x3d that does xmp 3600mhz just fine.

There's a good chance that's the case.

 

[eY_b0ss]

Unfortunately sounds like a limited memory controller on your cpu only able to do up to the rated memory speed, assuming you have matched ram. Try 3200mhz and see if it works, and try different brand ram (more specifically a different memory die like from samsung or micron, try avoid nanya).



I have a 5800x3d that does xmp 3600mhz just fine.

What is my options on this? It bombs out even when set to 3200. Seems like only 2400 works. Can this cpu be rma'd or nah? Should I rather opt for different memory, samsung b-die etc?

 

[Areola Grande]

What is my options on this? It bombs out even when set to 3200. Seems like only 2400 works. Can this cpu be rma'd or nah? Should I rather opt for different memory, samsung b-die etc?

If you have access, try some different RAM to rule that out as the issue. If no go then you could try RMA the CPU, but RAM is the easier solution for a quick test.

 

[Switch]

What is my options on this? It bombs out even when set to 3200. Seems like only 2400 works. Can this cpu be rma'd or nah? Should I rather opt for different memory, samsung b-die etc?

Don't need b die unless you are looking to manually overclock. If you can, try ram that is xmp rated at 3200, and then a different stick that is xmp rated 3600, your cpu should at least be able to do 3200. If you can't do 3200 and you can determine that it is definitely the cpu at fault and not other components then you could make a case for an rma, 3600 is technically out of rated spec.

 

[Oj0]

What is your RAM configuration? If 2x16GB, the CPU is rated for 3200 MT/s and you should be able to RMA it if it's the problem. If running 4x8GB, your memory controller is only rated at 2933 MT/s, and you should be able to RMA it if it can't do 2933 stable. Four modules is not a guarantee at 3000 or above.

 

[PilotDrake1]

Have you tried clearing CMOS (Removing the battery and PSU cord, then waiting 5mins. Hold down the power button for the first 30s. Alternatively , you can use the jumper). I have had RAM speed issues before (Changing from 2x8 to 4x8) I would get constant crashes above 2400 which lead me to be believe the new RAM was faulty - clearing the CMOS solved this. Changing your CPU/Updating your bios should do something similar to clearing the CMOS but it's worth a shot.

 

[eY_b0ss]

What is your RAM configuration? If 2x16GB, the CPU is rated for 3200 MT/s and you should be able to RMA it if it's the problem. If running 4x8GB, your memory controller is only rated at 2933 MT/s, and you should be able to RMA it if it can't do 2933 stable. Four modules is not a guarantee at 3000 or above.

It is 2x16gb.

Have you tried clearing CMOS (Removing the battery and PSU cord, then waiting 5mins. Hold down the power button for the first 30s. Alternatively , you can use the jumper). I have had RAM speed issues before (Changing from 2x8 to 4x8) I would get constant crashes above 2400 which lead me to be believe the new RAM was faulty - clearing the CMOS solved this. Changing your CPU/Updating your bios should do something similar to clearing the CMOS but it's worth a shot.

Thanks dude I'll give this a shot.

Wise man once told me "stop looking at fps counter, just enjoy the games."

Think i should go with that approach and just accept the shite xD

 

[Areola Grande]

Wise man once told me "stop looking at fps counter, just enjoy the games."

Think i should go with that approach and just accept the shite xD

This is valid.

It's also valid to not accept a sub-par product that doesn't perform as advertised though. So the investigation is worth doing. If the CPU is faulty, it should be replaced. Who know what other gremlins may rear their ugly heads.

 

[Switch]

Who know what other gremlins may rear their ugly heads.

This is the important part @eY_b0ss, your cpu might be defective or become defective prematurely.

 

[goldfritter]

Where did you buy the CPU from?

 

[eY_b0ss]

oh disaster.

Ok I'll test it with a xmp3200 kit from a friend.

and then RMA if it also does that.

Bought it from @EKD Online (Pty) Ltd

 

[Areola Grande]

Bought it from @EKD Online (Pty) Ltd

Try tjoon it in Afrikaans, might work better then.

 

[eY_b0ss]

Just tested it with Corsair dominator ddr4 3200mhz cl14 16GB*2 kit.

1. Dota2 crashes in main menu.
2. Cs2 as soon as i load into match aka see my gun. Both dota2 and cs2 get the same error along the lines of pak01.vpk is corrupt.
3. Dragons dogma 2 upon opening the game.
4. Cyberpunk 5-10seconds of playing.

Normal use is fine except YouTube also crashes in chrome.

Switching to default 2400mhz fixes everything.

Guess I'll switch back to my 5600x which I haven't sold yet and try returning it.

 

[eY_b0ss]

Plot twist

After returning the ram to my friend I found out he's never used XMP profile on his pc...

@Voldoverse1 was kind enough to also borrow me memory. His memory is working fine so far xmp profile 3200 - so it is really weird.

Guess certain combinations just doesn't work? So I'll be purchasing new ram it seems after the weekend of gaming on the ram.