PC Crashes (Out of video memory)

[mjclaas]

Do you have another RAM kit to test with? Just to rule that out. Reason being is that the Neo sticks were actually designed for AMD CPU's. If you have a look at the product page and compatibility, no Z690 or Z790 boards are listed as compatible, apart from 3 MSI boards. F4-4000C18D-32GTZN - QVL - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

It could still work, though, but it's not guaranteed.

Something else I noticed is that you are running the 14900KF with a 240 AIO. How are your CPU temperatures?

 

[ChrisEd]

You could try setting core ratio to 56 (spec for the 14900K), and then head into the Thermal Velocity Boost, and select the option to “Boost Until Target.”

I couldn't find these settings in my BIOS for some reason

 

[Petester]

I couldn't find these settings in my BIOS for some reason

Keep it simple bud. You need to start with your ram . Test it and re-seat it .
@dainluke has a PHD in fiddling and tinkering.

Another thing I have come across a few times is people over tightening AIO pumps screws and damaging CPU pins.
LGA 1700 M/B's are particularly susceptible to this .

Your problem definitely seem hardware related to me . After you have confirmed Ram is fine , or not, then take it in to Wootware as I'm sure they installed the AIO. Ask then to check the pins on M/B

 

[ChrisEd]

Do you have another RAM kit to test with? Just to rule that out. Reason being is that the Neo sticks were actually designed for AMD CPU's. If you have a look at the product page and compatibility, no Z690 or Z790 boards are listed as compatible, apart from 3 MSI boards. F4-4000C18D-32GTZN - QVL - G.SKILL International Enterprise Co., Ltd.

It could still work, though, but it's not guaranteed.

Something else I noticed is that you are running the 14900KF with a 240 AIO. How are your CPU temperatures?

So I ran a few stress tests the other day and they were maxing at 100 Degrees without any issues but I still think it is high.
I want to upgrade my system eventually to get a bigger case so that I can fit a 360mm.

It normally varies from 60 degrees to 80 Degrees though, but yes, I do think they are a bit high.

All in all, I think this could be a MB or RAM issue.

 

[ChrisEd]

Keep it simple bud. You need to start with your ram . Test it and re-seat it .
@dainluke has a PHD in fiddling and tinkering.

Another thing I have come across a few times is people over tightening AIO pumps screws and damaging CPU pins.
LGA 1700 M/B's are particularly susceptible to this .

Your problem definitely seem hardware related to me . After you have confirmed Ram is fine , or not, then take it in to Wootware as I'm sure they installed the AIO. Ask then to check the pins on M/B

Okay cool, I will look into the RAM issues. I am not too keen on re-seating them the whole time as I need to remove my 240mm rad to take out my RAM but I will give it a shot.

Will first do the tests to see if I pick anything up.

Also, thank goodness for warranty!

 

[Raatle]

"Out of video memory error".. This is bizarre.. CLOCK_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT from my experiance is something Ive only seen when my overclock was unstable. UNEXPECTED KERNEL MODE TRAP Ive seen on a failed hard drive.

Have you tried heavily underclocking your cpu, just as a diagnostic? Leave the voltage the same and drastically reduce the multiplier.
That being said I have no experience with Intel's p/e core processors. Goodluck.

 

[Maxim7]

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[Maxim7]

Do you have cpu-Z? CPU-Z could help you see the whole system in one go and check driver update if are recent

 

[Shamz]

Gamers are reportedly returning Intel Core i9 CPUs in droves | Digital Trends

An increasing number of customers are reporting issues with Intel's latest Core i9 CPUs, and the company is finally looking into the problem.

www.digitaltrends.com

 

[Oops!!!]

It looks like there is an issue with the 12/13th gen CPUs crashing in any game irrelative of resource intensiveness.

Linus is reporting some people have the same crash "out of video memory" with CPU's after 3months of use.

 

[dainluke]

It looks like there is an issue with the 12/13th gen CPUs crashing in any game irrelative of resource intensiveness.

Linus is reporting some people have the same crash "out of video memory" with CPU's after 3months of use.

Chips are degrading. However, it's partly vendors' faults for overclocking the i9 on behalf of the user (WTF). i9-13900K and 14900K are overclocked by one boost bin out of the box.

 

[Wolfeh]

Chips are degrading. However, it's partly vendors' faults for overclocking the i9 on behalf of the user (WTF). i9-13900K and 14900K are overclocked by one boost bin out of the box.

I'm just curious. Does this mean that the (motherboard) vendor stock overclock of the chip has caused the memory controller on the chip to degrade to the point of causing constant errors? If so, would lowering the clock multiple at this point even help?

 

[SomeoneOnCarbonite]

From what I can read in here, you've done everything, but tried a different GPU. Has the motherboard got on board graphics? Use that, play your cs2, and post the results.

Obviously it is not ideal for playing, but we're just testing here. It will rule eliminate one factor at least.

 

[CptRed]

Intel investigating games crashing on 13th and 14th Gen Core i9 processors

It’s not yet clear what the root cause of the crashes is.

www.theverge.com

I saw this earlier today

 

[dainluke]

I'm just curious. Does this mean that the (motherboard) vendor stock overclock of the chip has caused the memory controller on the chip to degrade to the point of causing constant errors? If so, would lowering the clock multiple at this point even help?

It isn't the IMC that's degraded. I mean, it's possible that the issue is related to too high TX VDDQ or VCCSA and not the cores themselves, but this is likely a core issue. The core degradation and higher-than-spec core clock doesn't have anything to do with the IMC. IMC errors on 13th gen however are IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. On odd occasion you might get the KMODE error.

However, what's important to note is that not all CPUs scale well with voltage. The reason that chips are crashing at the 5.5P and 5.7P V/F points on 13900K and 14900K samples respectively, is because Intel has no validated all 13900K and 14900K samples to run at 5.5P and 5.7P. These boost bins are basically prescribed by the idiot vendors. It's the same reason you can't really undervolt a 13900K/14900K unless you have a terrific sample.

The 12900K never exhibited these issues because vendors had the foresight to clock the 12900K lower than prescribed by Intel. Intel's official page claims that the 12900K has an all-P boost clock of 5.1GHz, which is utterly ridiculous if you've dealt with various 12900K samples. Some chips are good for it, while others like my first chip, are not even capable of it under any reasonable conditions. It's curious to me that vendors played it safe with 12th gen and then went insane with 13th and 14th.

 

[Wolfeh]

It isn't the IMC that's degraded. I mean, it's possible that the issue is related to too high TX VDDQ or VCCSA and not the cores themselves, but this is likely a core issue. The core degradation and higher-than-spec core clock doesn't have anything to do with the IMC. IMC errors on 13th gen however are IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and MEMORY_MANAGEMENT. On odd occasion you might get the KMODE error.

However, what's important to note is that not all CPUs scale well with voltage. The reason that chips are crashing at the 5.5P and 5.7P V/F points on 13900K and 14900K samples respectively, is because Intel has no validated all 13900K and 14900K samples to run at 5.5P and 5.7P. These boost bins are basically prescribed by the idiot vendors. It's the same reason you can't really undervolt a 13900K/14900K unless you have a terrific sample.

The 12900K never exhibited these issues because vendors had the foresight to clock the 12900K lower than prescribed by Intel. Intel's official page claims that the 12900K has an all-P boost clock of 5.1GHz, which is utterly ridiculous if you've dealt with various 12900K samples. Some chips are good for it, while others like my first chip, are not even capable of it under any reasonable conditions. It's curious to me that vendors played it safe with 12th gen and then went insane with 13th and 14th.

I see. Thank you for the detailed response. So there is some hope for the OP once he deciphers your very technical posts. 😂

 

[Gizmo]

My 14900k would crash frequently in CS2 I followed these settings from this reddit post. Before it would crash straight to desktop after a few minutes of CS2 and remnant 2 would give me the out of video memory error.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1axepvu/optimizing_stability_for_intel_13900k_and_14900k

1. Set short duration turbo power = 253
2. Set long duration turbo power = 253
3. Set max core/cache current = 307Amps

The issue is gone completely. You do loose a bit of performance, however stability is back. Intel really needs to work out what to do. This is a widespread 13900k and 14900k problem on some unlucky chips.

 

[Toy Machine]

My 14900k would crash frequently in CS2 I followed these settings from this reddit post. Before it would crash straight to desktop after a few minutes of CS2 and remnant 2 would give me the out of video memory error.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1axepvu/optimizing_stability_for_intel_13900k_and_14900k

1. Set short duration turbo power = 253
2. Set long duration turbo power = 253
3. Set max core/cache current = 307Amps

The issue is gone completely. You do loose a bit of performance, however stability is back. Intel really needs to work out what to do. This is a widespread 13900k and 14900k problem on some unlucky chips.

long duration should be 125w.
For games I have the 70w/90w PL because you lose so little performance it's not worth the extra power (Derbauer's video shows it) - I literally lose maybe 15fps, which is irrelevant at 170fps & save about 15-20w on average as well on 70w PL as 125/253 profile sometime spike a bit to say 90w, more demanding games save over 100w though & still only lose like 15fps

Couldn't get a single CB run in on stock (12 & 13th gen) until I set the PL's. It's the motherboard manufacturers setting a 'stock' overclocked profile which is the default profile the motherboard reverts to & comes with out of the box, and that PL is usually 4096w so the cpu thinks it has all the headroom in the world. Even the PL preset "Intel POR" which is Intels actual PL's of 125/253w is incorrect on my motherboard from Gigabyte, which does 253/253 and naturally, can't get a CB run out of that either. Manually setting 125/253 and haven't had a single issue since, an can actually manage the heat where previously it went to 100c in literally 0.2sec.

It's not really intel, the specs are define to keep it operating, it's mobo manufacturers setting default OC profiles with their mobo's and not telling anyone, so stock is not at all stock intel specs because mobo brands want that marketing throne kak.

 

[Gizmo]

I had a 13900k before that run fine with the stock settings on the same motherboard, my 14900k however did not. Its luck of the draw what your CPU can handle.

I have now been able to set 350A with the same stability. Anything more and it crashes. I am going to leave it at that and be happy it performs basically the same as my old 13900k. Total waste of a upgrade.