Scammed by des_

[epah]

Seller- @des_
Buyer- @epah

Hey guys, I have been scammed by this guy, I EFT’d him money for Ebucks that he was selling and he confirmed that the eft cleared however he has not sent the Ebucks and now he just blocked me on WhatsApp.

Those are his banking details.

Also went to the ATM to verify the account holder name and it turns out it’s owned by a Shaheed Chopdat.

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[Toxxyc]

Yeah that's a scammer. Go to FNB and see if you can reverse the EFT ASAP. Otherwise, open a case at SAPS with the details you have.

Guy is banned.

 

[JollyJamma]

Yeah that's a scammer. Go to FNB and see if you can reverse the EFT ASAP. Otherwise, open a case at SAPS with the details you have.

Guy is banned.

The problem is that all payments to scammers and fraudsters is seen as a civil matter between two people and the bank(s) take no responsibility.

The most likely outcome of this is taking the person to the small claims court, but who has time for that?

Lodge a criminal case with the police and send the details to the bank.

The guys account will be shut down and hopefully, he’ll struggle to open an account with any bank if the charges result in a conviction.



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[Toxxyc]

The problem is that all payments to scammers and fraudsters is seen as a civil matter between two people and the bank(s) take no responsibility.

The most likely outcome of this is taking the person to the small claims court, but who has time for that?

Lodge a criminal case with the police and send the details to the bank.

The guys account will be shut down and hopefully, he’ll struggle to open an account with any bank if the charges result in a conviction.

You can open a case of theft/fraud at SAPS. With that case number you bank can't and won't ignore you. They'll attempt a reverse if the money is still in the destination account and then contact the bank or freeze the account.

EDIT: Just because it's private doesn't mean you're not covered by law.

 

[JollyJamma]

You can open a case of theft/fraud at SAPS. With that case number you bank can't and won't ignore you. They'll attempt a reverse if the money is still in the destination account and then contact the bank or freeze the account.

EDIT: Just because it's private doesn't mean you're not covered by law.

If someone pays funds across, by accident or knowingly, it is the responsibility of the person to do their due diligence and that person takes responsibility for the payment.

If there’s a case fraud and the police issue a warrant for the person, there would be a strong case for the funds to be returned by the bank from the fraudster.

I agree with you entirely, it’s just that as per law, if someone steals money, that money is then rightfully theirs until proven otherwise.

It’s a weird law but having a brother and friend in litigation, plus working in compliance, you start to understand why certain laws are put in place.



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[Snyper564]

Could this be the same guy: Intel I3 2120 | Lenasia | Gumtree Classifieds South Africa | 332399713?

 

[Toxxyc]

If someone pays funds across, by accident or knowingly, it is the responsibility of the person to do their due diligence and that person takes responsibility for the payment.

If there’s a case fraud and the police issue a warrant for the person, there would be a strong case for the funds to be returned by the bank from the fraudster.

I agree with you entirely, it’s just that as per law, if someone steals money, that money is then rightfully theirs until proven otherwise.

It’s a weird law but having a brother and friend in litigation, plus working in compliance, you start to understand why certain laws are put in place.

Correct. However, if you pay someone money on the premise of getting something in return and that person doesn't give you the item you asked for, that is fraud or theft in criminal law. Once you agree on a price and monies is paid, a purchase agreement is done, it doesn't have to be in writing even. That agreement is a legally binding thingamabob, something you can't get out of, even if you are a private person.

Also, if you pay money to the incorrect person, the onus is on the person who incorrectly received the money to pay it back, ASAP, and failure to do so is actually a criminal offence. Latest famous case of this is that girl who got R14 Bar from NFSAS instead of R14k.

Could this be the same guy: Intel I3 2120 | Lenasia | Gumtree Classifieds South Africa | 332399713?

Same name, so IDK. Maybe report it and see what happens?

 

[GrubKnight]

His friends call him Mr Chop.

Sorry you got scammed bud. Would be great to see some justice one of these days.

 

[igi123]

Guys(noobs) you got here on Carb very good and experienced people. they will not hesitate to assists if you ask.
before you make a deal and not 100% sure what is the correct action/procedure to protect yourself.just ask.
Good luck.