Sp1dr
Epic Member
I feel very little for my so called privacy
Yip, I find it irritating that people give a treasonous POS so much credit.
Are you like, anti-privacy?
Like negative 5 on the poll?
I feel very little for my so called privacy
Yip, I find it irritating that people give a treasonous POS so much credit.
Such a loaded statement, why should we believe you over Snowden? Hmm?
Believe me when I say believe no-one
...did i mention Update??
sage comment
Fair enough, but there's one flaw to your argument. You repeat a few times that this gathering of data is "without consent", that we "don't have a choice" and "it's not up to" us. You absolutely have a choice. There are switches, options and opt-out functions on almost every form of data gathering out there. Those that don't have it simply state that they are gathering the data - if you don't like it then don't use it. Nothing has changed; in fact if anything it's improved. Can you imagine the uproar if Vodacom suddenly said "We're using humans to connect your calls, they are able to listen to those calls and are not required to sign an NDA"? Well that was the case up until about 1970; the last manual switchboard ceased operation in 1991...
Yes, companies are comprised of people and those people want to make profit. That's the way the world works. The only way a company can successfully make profit is to provide goods or a service that other companies cannot provide or provide them in a better way than other companies can, and it's the people who decide which one is better. If google watches me sit in traffic at the same robots every afternoon, tells CocaCola, and they stick a Coke salesman at those lights then it's a win win. That's an extremely simple example but that's how information sharing fundamentally works.
As for a police state, that's a question of whether we as a species can self-regulate our free will to avoid self harm and harm to others. The existence of a legal system points to the fact that we are unable to do so and must therefore be monitored, regulated and punished when necessary. Occasionally a leader will come along who either pushes this concept too far (Mao & Co) or chooses to place himself above it (Zuma?). This isn't the place to start debating how these leaders come to power, but the fact is it's not the norm, and as long our leaders have a modicum of sense then we can trust that they won't suddenly turn around and jail everyone who's turned left too many times.
What we can, or rather should be able to trust in is that the existing legal system will turn around and investigate that guy googling how to kill someone or how to build a car bomb. Should his privacy be protected because you're worried about a totalitarian government coming into power one day?
Seperation of persona's
Noa does not interact with real me. Real me barely does anything on the internet, in fact real me hasn't done anything in 2 years. Noa doesn't use a real name when registering on sites. Noa doesn't know about a few other alts.
So I can sperg out as much as I want on the various persona's and get away without being traced back to my real name or alts.
This site and the info contained on it is probably the closest the real me and Noa interact.
So while they may collect info on me, who exactly is it tied to?
Noah also has done a few trades on this site. Noah, do you really trust those people you traded with? Noah, unless you use the tor browser to hide your ip, 'they' already know who the real you is.
This site and the info contained on it is probably the closest the real me and Noa interact.
And how do they tie an IP to me, bar going to Telkom and asking what phone number is associated with the endpoint on a specific time and date?
I don't think they'd tie a specific ip to you, they would however be able to tie your other personas together if you don't hide your ip when switching between them. Also, your phone is probably on wifi, with possibly the same ip you're using now to post on here. Anyways, I wasn't being serious, it was a bit tongue in cheek.
You may be missing the core question or issue surrounding privacy and data collection. Do not let the digital domain obfuscate the real question here.If these companies wanted your information they would get it whether your willing to or not.
Heck the past few weeks I been getting a phone call from some company in Singapore wanting to tell me about the stuff they offer. They called me on my cell and said they have my details on their database. I have never set foot in singapore nor have I ever bought/did anything related to them.
There is no such thing as privacy in an internet driven world
That's private. Don't worry about it.
Privacy is a lot like freedom of speech, just because you have nothing to hide does not mean you want that right taken away from you? Same with freedom of speech, just because you don't use it everyday does not mean you want it to be taken away?
As someone that works with the data sharing to develop intelligence on it, it is actually rather something to worry about. For instance, you listed on your life insurance form that you don't do any extreme sports, however after the insurance company scrapes your photos and information from Facebook and they see that you are a mountain biker or cyclist they adjust your premium automatically.
That is just an example, but it happens in the world and its going to get worse. As with some of the previous posts, the only way really to preserve your privacy is to go off the grid, as anything and everything these days shares data.
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It goes beyond money, the industry work in are busy developing intelligent surveillance systems able to detect your intent. This is a massive problem, these systems are all predictive of nature, meaning they may be accurate but they also do make mistakes.I am with this.
How different the world was, when I was growing up, compared to now.
As governments have proven themselves repeatedly to be untrustworthy, ditto for corporates, do you really trust them with your personal info?
In IT I have seen too much, to ever trust any of them. Its just too easy to grab the money offered for sale of information, metadata, and everything in that realm.
It's a bug/design flaw.
Oh I get it now. [MENTION=296]Noah[/MENTION] is updates the last post time with the last time someone posted in the poll and links that time in the "New Posts" list with the last person's actual post. It's a bug/design flaw.