nagapie
Legendary Member
i never said amd didnt have issues. If you read my previous comments i said due to intel being much larger than amd researchers have mainly being focusing on their products.
Regarding intel and 10nm chips they have made chips already and are being sold. They have more 10nm laptop chips coming out in the later period 2nd quarter or early 3rd quarter.
You cant compare nm directly since you have different foundaries producing chips for these tech companies. Amd uses tsmc and intel use their own foundaries.
Yes they cant beat intel in all things but considering what they have done in two gens it puts intel to shame. Since in 2015 the engineers at intel told the executives to start bringing architecture meant for 10nm to 14nm due to the issues they had with the 10nm process but the executives said no and look where we are. Also architecture plays a role with how the chips perform. Ill be interested to see how amd performs with zen 2 coming out until then.
Regarding higher clocks imo we have been latched onto this for too long. Performance per clock is what we should look at but thats another debate for another time. The reason i rate amd hasnt pushed the clocks is due to more cores pushing up the power (if you check intel server chips to keep within tdp they lower the clocks) so intel is probably understating their actual tdp on their chips when at full throttle.
Fortunately with amd being back we will hopefully see better tech from both in the long run but what needs to happen is they need to redesign these chips from the ground up as they using base tech from the 90`s (i might be wrong on this) however something needs to happen.
