Monitor: Is it worth?

[OsMoFF]

Hi everyone

Looking into getting a new monitor. Currently I have a 22inch LG LED monitor @60hz with a TN panel, nothing fancy.

Pc is sporting a Asus GTX970 strix.

I have a budget of R2.5k (lol) but thinking if it will be worth to stretch it for this monitor:

ASUS MG248Q 24" Full HD (1920x1080) Widescreen 1ms Gaming Desktop Monitor - Wootware

Im comfortable to stay with a 24inch monitor and im not too worried about staying with a TN panel. R6.5k is already hellava expensive and the girlfriend is already making me feel super guilty.

Comments appreciated.

 

[Spidey8085]

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[OsMoFF]

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Lol really now...

 

[Spidey8085]

Lol really now...

Hahahah, sorry man, can't resist the chance to fok around with someone. I got myself a 144hz monitor a few months back, let me tell you, it is GLORIOUS!! However, do not expect to reap the full benefit of the monitor if your fps is significantly lower than your fps. SO i find myself decreasing a few settings here and there to get my fps as close to my refresh rate as possible.

970 is a powerful card, you have a decent cpu, are you happy dropping quality settings for higher fps to get the full benefit of a 144hz screen?

 

[OsMoFF]

Thanks for the input

I have never used a monitor that can reach higher than 60hz. so i thought getting a 144hz monitor would probably be a good idea seeing as i have a GPU that can perform better than 60hz.

The Asus monitor ticks alot of the boxes. Good imput lag and nice refresh rate. Im particulary keen on the hight ajustment feature as i tend to look like a caveman when i game.

Im just bothered that the investment would not be worth as I would lose out on the freesync (if it makes a difference).

are you happy dropping quality settings for higher fps to get the full benefit of a 144hz screen?

Well i suppose if i keep a games quality settings relatively high and i reach about 100 - 120hz it should be fine. Not even sure if the tech works that way..

Games i play the most is: Dota 2 (dont really need the asus monitor for that i know)
Some CSGO on casual
GTA V
Division
Doom

 

[Kay150]

This would be a better option - Asus VG248QE 24" 144Hz 3D LED Full HD 1920x1080 Monitor - Wootware
You can buy the girlfriend something nice with the difference

 

[Spidey8085]

Thanks for the input

I have never used a monitor that can reach higher than 60hz. so i thought getting a 144hz monitor would probably be a good idea seeing as i have a GPU that can perform better than 60hz.

The Asus monitor ticks alot of the boxes. Good imput lag and nice refresh rate. Im particulary keen on the hight ajustment feature as i tend to look like a caveman when i game.

Im just bothered that the investment would not be worth as I would lose out on the freesync (if it makes a difference).



Well i suppose if i keep a games quality settings relatively high and i reach about 100 - 120hz it should be fine. Not even sure if the tech works that way..

Games i play the most is: Dota 2 (dont really need the asus monitor for that i know)
Some CSGO on casual
GTA V
Division
Doom

Haha, hold up bud. The screen will always be operating at 144hz, whether your game is running at 30fps, or 200 fps. The monitor is refreshing at 144hz all the time, end of story. Freesync/gsync are nice to have, you don't need them. I have not noticed ANY screen tearing at all on 144hz, although i do ensure my fps is always +-100.

Just note that by default the screen will operate at 60hz, you just need to go into display settings and set it to 144hz Had a mate that had a 120hz monitor for about 2 years, he never knew about this setting, so he was running his 120hz monitor at 60hz for over 2 years...

 

[OsMoFF]

This would be a better option - Asus VG248QE 24" 144Hz 3D LED Full HD 1920x1080 Monitor - Wootware
You can buy the girlfriend something nice with the difference

Lol thanks for the input.

That was the first monitor i viewed and done some research on it. It got really good reviews and i discovered that that monitor was introduced in the market in 2013 already. The MG248Q i believe is the updated version.
The VG248QE is also out of stock @ Woot, wonder if it will become a End-Of-Life item soon.

Seems that one can never get a sweet spot monitor. I don't need speakers on a monitor and also don't need 3D.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

Freesync/gsync are nice to have, you don't need them. I have not noticed ANY screen tearing at all on 144hz

Freesync/GSync have nothing to do with tearing.
You know how playing a 30 FPS locked game just feels wrong and almost seems to jitter a bit? Well they fix that and make content running at any consistent FPS buttery smooth or as close to that as current technology allows.

You would get screen tearing at frames beyond 144.

 

[Spidey8085]

Freesync/GSync have nothing to do with tearing.
You know how playing a 30 FPS locked game just feels wrong and almost seems to jitter a bit? Well they fix that and make content running at any consistent FPS buttery smooth or as close to that as current technology allows.

Screen tearing occurs when your fps and screen refresh rate don't match. Vsync makes sure your fps does not exceed your screen refresh rate, but what do you do when your fps is jittery BELOW your screen refresh rate? That is what gsync/freesync were made for, your fps and refresh rate will always be matched, therefore you will never ever see screen tearing.

Do you agree? Or do you believe freesync/gsync have another purpose in life?

 

[OsMoFF]

Just note that by default the screen will operate at 60hz, you just need to go into display settings and set it to 144hz Had a mate that had a 120hz monitor for about 2 years, he never knew about this setting, so he was running his 120hz monitor at 60hz for over 2 years...

I would have lolled so hard at my friend. Thanks for the headsup.

 

[WarHeaD]

In my experience, a decent screen really does make your gaming experience so much better.

I went from a 24" TN LED 60Hz Sammy to a Catleap 27" 1440p IPS 60Hz screen (this version wasn't able to OC)... the resolution gain on 1440p is nothing short of amazing and picture and colour clarity with IPS vs TN is really awesome too.

I then wanted to get something with a higher refresh rate, so I ended up selling the Catleap and getting a Samsung S27A950D - the 120Hz was amazing, but everything on 1080p seemed "pixelated" and on the TN panel the colours seemed washed out... so after about two weeks I sold my S27A950D and imported a QNIX QX2710 Evo II, which has a Samsung PLS (IPS) Panel and is overclockable (I'm currently running mine at 105Hz) and I must say I'm really happy... I would've loved picking up one of those Acer 1440p 120Hz screens that Rebeltech (I think) sold, but at the time, I didn't have the funds, and then after the special it just seemed like too much money compared to what I could get the QNIX for.

So anyhow, long story short, a screen definitely makes a huge difference to your overall experience and the higher refresh rate is awesome.

 

[Spidey8085]

I would have lolled so hard at my friend. Thanks for the headsup.

man, first i facepalmed, then i lol'd. As soon as i plugged in my screen and went in game, i knew something wasn't right, and after looking around, i saw display settings was still set to 60hz, that's how i found out. If i hadn't told him, he would still be running a 120hz monitor at 60hz...

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

Screen tearing occurs when your fps and screen refresh rate don't match. Vsync makes sure your fps does not exceed your screen refresh rate, but what do you do when your fps is jittery BELOW your screen refresh rate? That is what gsync/freesync were made for, your fps and refresh rate will always be matched, therefore you will never ever see screen tearing.

Do you agree? Or do you believe freesync/gsync have another purpose in life?

I thought that is what I said? So yes, I agree.

Tearing happens above refresh rate. Gsync and Freesync can not eliminate that as far as I know, if you are running at 150+ frames I still think you would see tearing at 144Hz though? I thought that is why GSync is a 144Hz thing, because it still needs the high Hz to hopefully eliminate tearing.
Jitter happens below native Hz and is eliminated purely by GSync/Freesync. More Hz will not save you here if you do not have Gsync/Freesync.

 

[Spidey8085]

I thought that is what I said? So yes, I agree.

Tearing happens above refresh rate. Gsync and Freesync can not eliminate that as far as I know, if you are running at 150+ frames I still think you would see tearing at 144Hz though? I thought that is why GSync is a 144Hz thing, because it still needs the high Hz to hopefully eliminate tearing.
Jitter happens below native Hz and is eliminated purely by GSync/Freesync. More Hz will not save you here if you do not have Gsync/Freesync.

Tearing happens above AND below the monitor refresh rate. From what I have ready, Gsync kicks in at around 30 fps, and goes up to the max refresh rate of whatever screen it is you bought, be it a 60/120/144hz screen.

144hz on its own is already really fast, and so whilst there may still be screen tearing, it refreshes so fast that i have not noticed any tearing since I've gotten it.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

Tearing happens above AND below the monitor refresh rate. From what I have ready, Gsync kicks in at around 30 fps, and goes up to the max refresh rate of whatever screen it is you bought, be it a 60/120/144hz screen.

144hz on its own is already really fast, and so whilst there may still be screen tearing, it refreshes so fast that i have not noticed any tearing since I've gotten it.

Hmm I do no recall ever seeing tearing on the few games I can run unlocked from VSync at a consistent 40-50 FPS so I have always considered it a above Hz problem only.

The point I was however originally trying to make was that having a screen natively refreshing above 60z does nothing to eliminate the wrong/jittery feeling a 30 FPS locked title will give you. Only GSync and Freesync can do that. So they are are very much needed if you can actually afford them.

 

[Spidey8085]

Hmm I do no recall ever seeing tearing on the few games I can run unlocked from VSync at a consistent 40-50 FPS so I have always considered it a above Hz problem only.

The point I was however originally trying to make was that having a screen natively refreshing above 60z does nothing to eliminate the wrong/jittery feeling a 30 FPS locked title will give you. Only GSync and Freesync can do that. So they are are very much needed if you can actually afford them.

What 30 fps locked titles are you playing?

Most locked games do have a config file one can edit to remove the lock...

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

What 30 fps locked titles are you playing?

Most locked games do have a config file one can edit to remove the lock...

The Final Fantasys for instance?

 

[S-mAnX]

Reading these twos comments ^ XD
Personal experience is key to deciding I think. My buddy also bumped up to a Dell 27" 1440p display. And it's amazing. Then saw another friend go for a 32" 4k display with a 120Hz refresh. You can see the differences. However, you need to consider your gpu, don't hurt the poor thing with more than it can handle and also remember that while a nice monitor is cool it's not the first thing you need to necessarily upgrade. If you're happy with your other components and have a little money to spend, then hell yeah!

 

[OsMoFF]

So I decided to go with the Asus MG248Q monitor. Ordered it this morning.

Watching some Youtube review vid's convinced me that it would be a good choice (i hope).

Also considering the specs and price of the monitor locally I could not really find the same spec/price monitor of a rival.

Lets see what this puppy can do.

 

[OsMoFF]

So i unboxed the screen and set it up too excited to start testing. then when i wanted to plug the power cable into the source I realized that it has one of those EU 2 prong plugs, which looks similar to our local ones with the round head.

Went to a local pick and pay and had to buy a freaking South african travel plug so that it could work. (facepalm)

Question:
When products are imported from EU and places, whom is locally responsible to ensure that the South african standard plugs/cables are supplied with the product? Would it be like Asus South Africa or like the Distributors or the retailers?

But no the less, I manage to test some games last night just to see the difference (CSGO, DOTA2 and Some DIABLO 3). So far I'm really amazed with 144hz. Have to really get used to the fast reaction times and definitely have to apply the blue light filter cause i can image the strain on my eyes after a couple of hours gaming session.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

When products are imported from EU and places, whom is locally responsible to ensure that the South african standard plugs/cables are supplied with the product? Would it be like Asus South Africa or like the Distributors or the retailers?

No one.
Whatever is in the box is what you get.
You should pretty much count on whatever you buy coming with those EU round 2-prongs.

Could have been worse.
Could have been a US import which only comes with their flat rectangular 2-prongs.
Good luck getting a simple travel-plug for those.

 

[Toxxyc]

Could have been worse.
Could have been a US import which only comes with their flat rectangular 2-prongs.
Good luck getting a simple travel-plug for those.

US operates on 110V. Getting one of those is chaos.