Kingdom Come: Deliverance

[CaptainCatatonic]

Anyone played this yet? Is it worth my money, or is it just another hunk of junk?

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[D3TTOL]

I have a friend who has gone nuts over this game.

Once he calms down a bit I will jam it a bit on his PC and see what it's all about.
According to him it's skyrim with no magic

 

[CaptainCatatonic]

I have a friend who has gone nuts over this game.

Once he calms down a bit I will jam it a bit on his PC and see what it's all about.
According to him it's skyrim with no magic

Hmmm. Not sure how to feel about that. If a game can do easily be compared to another (6 year old) game, I must admit some disappointment. But we shall see... Post a short review of you get a chance to play a couple hours in the next few days?

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[BLaaR]

Watched some game play and reviews and I want it, but I would probably wait a bit till they patched it a bit more as there are some issues / glitches that are still annoying like horse disappearing , character models not loading correctly (missing heads etc) some quest bugs and FPS drops.

Then there is the patch size each time

Some amusing bugs
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-weirdest-glitches-and-bugs-weve-seen-in-kingdom-come-deliverance/

But yeah, once patched should be very enjoyable game I hope.

 

[TRINITRON]

I still need to play Witcher 3 so I'll sit this one out.

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[CaptainCatatonic]

Watched some game play and reviews and I want it, but I would probably wait a bit till they patched it a bit more as there are some issues / glitches that are still annoying like horse disappearing , character models not loading correctly (missing heads etc) some quest bugs and FPS drops.

Then there is the patch size each time

Some amusing bugs
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-weirdest-glitches-and-bugs-weve-seen-in-kingdom-come-deliverance/

But yeah, once patched should be very enjoyable game I hope.

Considering getting it just for the bugs now... Lol but on a serious note it saddens me that games, without fail, get released broken as hell these days... When last was a game released that didn't have retarded stuff happen on launch day that took gigabytes of patches to fix? I can't even remember.

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[CaptainCatatonic]

I still need to play Witcher 3 so I'll sit this one out.

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Still suffering through The Witcher 1 man. It's horrible but THE STORYLINE is keeping me going.

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[z3llin]

So the game aims to be realistic portrayal of the middle ages. Combat is a bit more complicated than in Skyrim, you actually have to chose angles to attack from and learn combos countering etc. Stats wise combat is a hell of a lot more complicated.
Also the game is quite tough on you for your choices. Since you are a peasant you cant read, you have to be taught how to read. You cant just collect all the food and keep it in your inventory forever. The quality actually goes down over time until what you collected is uneatable. Your weapons/clothes get covered in dirt and blood and you actually need to wash it or else the negative impact on your charisma will make traders charge you more. To properly heal you need to sleep, the more you are hurt the longer you have to sleep.

Its the finer details that are great about the game. The biggest downside is the crazy level of bugs at this point.
Its buggy as hell. The crashing makes the limited save functionality a problem.There is a mod out already to let you save more.

 

[Munk]

"Skyrim without magic."

Rofl.
Never heard a lazier comparison regarding two games.

One video that made me think "oh": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wPRrKBNSxY
Bless you Candyland (PC/Console graphics side-by-side): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4D1OGmkMzg

Graphics do not maketh the game, but those graphics maketh me hurl.
Almost makes me want to say Skyrim Vanilla is a better option for the lack of bugs and solid, well developed story... Hahahaha.

Edit: Silly saltiness aside, this does look like something that could eat up 500+ hours if you let it take hold of you.

 

[Doom5003]

This looks like a game I can spend hours and hours on, just not paying full price for beta.

 

[CaptainCatatonic]

So the game aims to be realistic portrayal of the middle ages. Combat is a bit more complicated than in Skyrim, you actually have to chose angles to attack from and learn combos countering etc. Stats wise combat is a hell of a lot more complicated.
Also the game is quite tough on you for your choices. Since you are a peasant you cant read, you have to be taught how to read. You cant just collect all the food and keep it in your inventory forever. The quality actually goes down over time until what you collected is uneatable. Your weapons/clothes get covered in dirt and blood and you actually need to wash it or else the negative impact on your charisma will make traders charge you more. To properly heal you need to sleep, the more you are hurt the longer you have to sleep.

Its the finer details that are great about the game. The biggest downside is the crazy level of bugs at this point.
Its buggy as hell. The crashing makes the limited save functionality a problem.There is a mod out already to let you save more.

K sold. Disregarding the bugs, this is the game I was hoping it would be. Definitely going to pick it up. Hopefully shit gets patched quickly and so is smooth sailing within a month.

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[z3llin]

K sold. Disregarding the bugs, this is the game I was hoping it would be. Definitely going to pick it up. Hopefully shit gets patched quickly and so is smooth sailing within a month.

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There are mods for the two biggest issues.

Lockpicking is quite difficult, much more so than in any other game I've played. There is a simple mod that helps by giving you a better visual indicator of where you need to keep the pick, without changing the way it works. https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/32

The limited saving functionality is supposed to make you not just quick save and load every 5 seconds if something didn't go perfectly. Great idea, but the bugs such as infinite loading screen and quest breaking ones make the few saves a problem. Thus the unlimited save mod has its uses even if you are trying to stick to the spirit of the game.

Side note: Turns out being covered in blood makes you better at intimidation speech checks.

 

[CaptainCatatonic]

There are mods for the two biggest issues.

Lockpicking is quite difficult, much more so than in any other game I've played. There is a simple mod that helps by giving you a better visual indicator of where you need to keep the pick, without changing the way it works. https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/32

The limited saving functionality is supposed to make you not just quick save and load every 5 seconds if something didn't go perfectly. Great idea, but the bugs such as infinite loading screen and quest breaking ones make the few saves a problem. Thus the unlimited save mod has its uses even if you are trying to stick to the spirit of the game.

Side note: Turns out being covered in blood makes you better at intimidation speech checks.

I'm more and more intrigued by this game the more I hear about it... I really hope the issues get sorted soon, because this seems to be a game that could shape RPG's in the future in terms of mechanics.

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[Ron Burgundy]

This game is really great in imho, I was just going to have look at the graphics that all the early previewers raved about cause on YT you lose to much detail compression.
I must say on 4k, ultra, no shitty motion blur with max draw, view distance the game really accomplishes something I haven't seen in open world games yet, you still have the poppins etc but the distance isn't as bland as most open world games, the forests on the distance look great.

Basically I went from wanting to test the game to already exploring 4/5ths of the map and progressed skills almost half way lol
but if you haven't started with the game yet, it's best to wait, still lots of irritating bugs, I use the save mods although I would prefer to play without it.
You find having to go back and load older saves cause a quest character might be stuck etc, it doesn't happen very often but one does not want to redo a bunch of progress due to a bug

I think with most bugs fixed and future expansions this game could be great.
Or if they take everything the learned from the first one the second one might be a witcher 3 beater.

People complain a lot about the bugs , but let's be honest, the size of games these days on the scale of GTA 5, witcher 3, they'll never iron out all the bugs, not even after launch, and this game is no different, it's pretty massive

I do wish the game launched with proper sli support though, they said it will come but one never knows

 

[BLaaR]

This game is really great in imho, I was just going to have look at the graphics that all the early previewers raved about cause on YT you lose to much detail compression.
I must say on 4k, ultra, no shitty motion blur with max draw, view distance the game really accomplishes something I haven't seen in open world games yet, you still have the poppins etc but the distance isn't as bland as most open world games, the forests on the distance look great.

Basically I went from wanting to test the game to already exploring 4/5ths of the map and progressed skills almost half way lol
but if you haven't started with the game yet, it's best to wait, still lots of irritating bugs, I use the save mods although I would prefer to play without it.
You find having to go back and load older saves cause a quest character might be stuck etc, it doesn't happen very often but one does not want to redo a bunch of progress due to a bug

I think with most bugs fixed and future expansions this game could be great.
Or if they take everything the learned from the first one the second one might be a witcher 3 beater.

People complain a lot about the bugs , but let's be honest, the size of games these days on the scale of GTA 5, witcher 3, they'll never iron out all the bugs, not even after launch, and this game is no different, it's pretty massive

I do wish the game launched with proper sli support though, they said it will come but one never knows

Regarding exploration.

I remember one reviewer mentioned that even though you have this relatively large map, there was not much to do. Did you experience the same ?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Regarding exploration.

I remember one reviewer mentioned that even though you have this relatively large map, there was not much to do. Did you experience the same ?

I'd say it's not bloated, I haven't done to much side quest but what I found was the people in towns give you side quests and activities that tend to send you out into the open.

When you just roaming you get bandits and houses you can rob, but most of it is just beautiful countryside where you can hunt and pick flowers

 

[Doom5003]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has been WATERED DOWN

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60916/kingdom-deliverance-watered-down-pc/index.html

 

[CaptainCatatonic]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has been WATERED DOWN

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60916/kingdom-deliverance-watered-down-pc/index.html

Perhaps because of performance issues? I'd prefer a game that looked slightly worse to a game that had trouble running at decent framerates on high end hardware.

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[Doom5003]

Perhaps because of performance issues? I'd prefer a game that looked slightly worse to a game that had trouble running at decent framerates on high end hardware.

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I'd prefer a choice. Let me decide what my pc can and can not handle. Let me play with the different settings, maybe like great looking foliage but poor few distance.

 

[CaptainCatatonic]

I'd prefer a choice. Let me decide what my pc can and can not handle. Let me play with the different settings, maybe like great looking foliage but poor few distance.

I think it goes deeper than that. Perhaps they were having stability issues with rendering certain effects or using certain combinations of graphics options on certain hardware. It does happen. I remember playing dragon age 2, and I couldn't run the game at 1600x900 in fullscreen mode. Game would straight up crash. So it stands to reason that other issues could be possible.

Also remember, this is a small team, they wouldn't do this drastic stuff without reason. Why throw away hours and hours of work for no reason? There must be a decent reason for what they did. Perhaps they will reinstate these graphical options once they've better tweaked them. Just my thoughts.

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[Ron Burgundy]

Kingdom Come: Deliverance has been WATERED DOWN

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60916/kingdom-deliverance-watered-down-pc/index.html

I'm assuming they're refering to the 2014 kickstarter footage which was claimed back then to be in game footage, not gameplay footage: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance
I don't know what the first beta gameplay was, but looking at this one the game has improved a lot in certain areas, especially characters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLTu9Ih75HI

I never followed this game and wasn't interested in it at all from YT videos, it was only after demoing that I realised how much I liked it and the bought it.
So from my perspective the gameplay is what I expected it, cause that's how I've tried it first.

Devs however should stop releasing teasers that look better than what the game will ever be able to look just to get hype.
We've all seen how it could backfire, although 2014 was shit long ago so perhaps that's why the official beta they released looked more of what we have today

 

[adamr]

This game looks dated ... And heard it runs like crud on even the beafiest of machines. Yet many claim it to be amazing and the graphics the best in any game to date. Sorry I don't see this. Feels like a game from 5years ago charcaters have zero emotions ... Animations look unnatural

 

[Angry5p1c3]

So the game aims to be realistic portrayal of the middle ages. Combat is a bit more complicated than in Skyrim, you actually have to chose angles to attack from and learn combos countering etc. Stats wise combat is a hell of a lot more complicated.
Also the game is quite tough on you for your choices. Since you are a peasant you cant read, you have to be taught how to read. You cant just collect all the food and keep it in your inventory forever. The quality actually goes down over time until what you collected is uneatable. Your weapons/clothes get covered in dirt and blood and you actually need to wash it or else the negative impact on your charisma will make traders charge you more. To properly heal you need to sleep, the more you are hurt the longer you have to sleep.

Its the finer details that are great about the game. The biggest downside is the crazy level of bugs at this point.
Its buggy as hell. The crashing makes the limited save functionality a problem.There is a mod out already to let you save more.

yoh off topic. but so many memories in your profile pic

 

[z3llin]

For anyone waiting for patches before diving in. Patch 1.3 is has major bug fixes and a minor re-balance of late game mechanics.