AMD Ryzen 3000 Announced, pricing and specs.

[Wadkiller]

I'm still very undecided on my upgrade path, however, I am confident that I do not "need" a X570 mobo if I decide to go Ryzen. Even if I go to Intel, I'm not getting PCIe 4.0, but I will be losing out on some mem speed. A good B450, or slightly more expensive X470 will still work more than adequately.

I won't go multi GPU again, soI am almost inclined to say the best B450 mobo for me will be a treat. the 65 TDP from what I can see is the limiting factor in the 3700X oc, so I would like to see what the 3800X does before I make a choice.

 

[TickTickBoom]

Anybody think of/or have ordered from newegg now that they deliver to SA? These prices from SA retailers are just madness...

 

[Swifty]

Wouldn't import tax bring the price in line with local suppliers?

 

[blankster]

.... the 65 TDP from what I can see is the limiting factor in the X3700 oc, so I would like to see what the X3800 does before I make a choice.

Don't hold your breath...even consistently hitting the advertised boost speeds seems to be a novelty. Ryzen 3000 chips are brilliant efficient plugin-and-play productivity workhorses first and foremost, but will NEVER come near the frequencies Intel has for gaming. Still it's pretty much storm-in-a-teacup to dramatize the clock speeds unless your priority is to get the absolute maximum fps for gaming

 

[Superflan]

Anybody think of/or have ordered from newegg now that they deliver to SA? These prices from SA retailers are just madness...

You'll save like 200 bucks

 

[Kloppies]

Anybody think of/or have ordered from newegg now that they deliver to SA? These prices from SA retailers are just madness...

The prices are almost exactly what I expected them to be. At release last year the 2700X was priced higher than the 3700X at Wootware, both $329 MSRP, and the Rand is even weaker now:
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Octa-Core 3.7GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 Desktop CPU - Wootware

Everything being imported to SA you need to multiply USD prices by 17-19 to get realistic ZAR prices

 

[Dr Evil]

I am currently on an Intel 4th gen setup so I'm definitely going to upgrade in the coming months to either a 3600/x or a 3700x but damn the price of the X570 boards are hectic[emoji15][emoji33] I'm considering just getting a decent x470 motherboard with good vrm's to pair with it. I don't have any need for PCI Express 4.0




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[Commander_ZA]

Wow checked reviews now on Linus
Im def getting a 3900x and keeping my x370 board for now
AMD is finally ontop now and intel really need to slash prices

 

[Shad.O]

I am currently on an Intel 4th gen setup so I'm definitely going to upgrade in the coming months to either a 3600/x or a 3700x but damn the price of the X570 boards are hectic[emoji15][emoji33] I'm considering just getting a decent x470 motherboard with good vrm's to pair with it. I don't have any need for PCI Express 4.0




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This is almost exactly what has put me off the AMD upgrade path for this year now. The x570 motherboards for someone who enjoys pushing their chip with oc'ing are a must with the 12-14vrms available as opposed to the x470/b450 boards with round 7-8. Issue is the decent offerings are in the 6.5k+ region.

B450/X470 boards and vrm #'s

For the same money you can get the 9700k + Equivalent motherboard in the name range and have extra to buy more ram or an nvme 🤦‍♂️

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

I am currently on an Intel 4th gen setup so I'm definitely going to upgrade in the coming months to either a 3600/x or a 3700x but damn the price of the X570 boards are hectic[emoji15][emoji33] I'm considering just getting a decent x470 motherboard with good vrm's to pair with it. I don't have any need for PCI Express 4.0




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IF I were to upgrade (to a 3800x) I'd wait for the new gen equivalent of the B450 boards, There doesn't seem to be enough OC headroom to really bother with top tier boards.

 

[VPII]

This is almost exactly what has put me off the AMD upgrade path for this year now. The x570 motherboards for someone who enjoys pushing their chip with oc'ing are a must with the 12-14vrms available as opposed to the x470/b450 boards with round 7-8. Issue is the decent offerings are in the 6.5k+ region.

B450/X470 boards and vrm #'s

For the same money you can get the 9700k + Equivalent motherboard in the name range and have extra to buy more ram or an nvme [emoji2357]

Well you do get some x470 boards with more than enough vrm.

So with the CH7 board you looking at 600 amps of power which is more than enough.

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[Shad.O]

Well you do get some x470 boards with more than enough vrm.

So with the CH7 board you looking at 600 amps of power which is more than enough.

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Def cant argue with this board. Was also 1 I was considering but again its in the R5500+ ballpark which is a bit heavy to swallow lol

 

[M@tree2]

Def cant argue with this board. Was also 1 I was considering but again it's in the R5500+ ballpark which is a bit heavy to swallow lol

Buy a Z390-E from Asus and a 9900k, it'll be cheaper than a 3900x with an expensive board

 

[pXius]

So the only MITX board so far is the Gigabyte x570 listed on Wootware with no pricing.
Also, looking at De8auer's video (Link), there's not that much OC overhead.

Unless the 3800X is amazing, which I doubt, as it seems to just be a better binned 3700X, there will be no reason to switch from a 9700/9900K for gaming.

 

[SILTECH786]

Pricing is not listed as gigabyte boards are not yet available hence no price.

 

[pXius]

Ok, so this is interesting.

Apparently there's a bug in the newer BIOS releases (The ones probably used by most reviewers) preventing the chips from hitting advertised boost (issue shown very clearly by De8auer). Older releases and the new Chipset drivers released today has the chips hitting 50-100Mhz more. That might close the gap to the 9700/9900k even more where gaming is concerned.

Reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cacwf9

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

So the only MITX board so far is the Gigabyte x570 listed on Wootware with no pricing.
Also, looking at De8auer's video (Link), there's not that much OC overhead.

Unless the 3800X is amazing, which I doubt, as it seems to just be a better binned 3700X, there will be no reason to switch from a 9700/9900K for gaming.

There was never gonna be a reason to switch. There might have been a reason to choose a different platform if still trying to get to that level though.

 

[Bearman]

All you fancy people with your New Zen discussions. And me still happy with my 2600x. At 1440p my GTX 1080 is maxed out in games freaken AGES before my CPU even starts thinking about the concept of exercise.

 

[SCHUMI4EVER]

All you fancy people with your New Zen discussions. And me still happy with my 2600x. At 1440p my GTX 1080 is maxed out in games freaken AGES before my CPU even starts thinking about the concept of exercise.

That could be both true and not true simultaneously depending on what stat you are looking at. The CPU as a whole may have a good deal more juice left. But the parts the game actually addresses could well be running full tilt and running outa legs.

 

[nagapie]

All you fancy people with your New Zen discussions. And me still happy with my 2600x. At 1440p my GTX 1080 is maxed out in games freaken AGES before my CPU even starts thinking about the concept of exercise.

But those 10 seconds less to encode shit matters! Imagine what you could do with 10 seconds

Its a pitty the new boards are so pricey but if you want newer tech its the price you pay. I think ill wait out with my dual core cpu until 2030 for quantum pc's

 

[M@tree2]

Buy a Z390-E from Asus and a 9900k, it'll be cheaper than a 3900x with an expensive board

Less BIOS issues too 😂

 

[PancakesZA]

 

[vinodh]

Buy a Z390-E from Asus and a 9900k, it'll be cheaper than a 3900x with an expensive board

I ordered a 9900K/Z390/Radeon VII combo yesterday. My Ryzen 2700X/B350-F/GTX 1080 will go on sale soon. Got a good deal on the Radeon VII from Wootware: R11699

 

[reactor_sa]

I ordered a 9900K/Z390/Radeon VII combo yesterday. My Ryzen 2700X/B350-F/GTX 1080 will go on sale soon. Got a good deal on the Radeon VII from Wootware: R11699

5700XT is the same performance of VII for less though? Also cooler and more power efficient.

 

[SILTECH786]

Even thou I am team green the below is interesting

 

[vinodh]

5700XT is the same performance of VII for less though? Also cooler and more power efficient.

The Radeon is faster than the 5700 XT but not as good value as the 5700 XT. However, the main reason I bought it besides the usual gaming and other messing around is to build a high end Hackintosh. The Radeon VII is currently the best GPU for macOS.

 

[Wadkiller]

Do the windows security patches for intel affect all CPUs' performance or only those with hyperthreading?

Are there any reviews out with newer bios' adressing the issues experienced with ryzen 3000 boosting?

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[reactor_sa]

Do the windows security patches for intel affect all CPUs' performance or only those with hyperthreading?

Are there any reviews out with newer bios' adressing the issues experienced with ryzen 3000 boosting?

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I think the patches affect all intel CPUs, the one vulnerability though could only be 100% mitigated by disabling hyperthreading altogether.

 

[Wadkiller]

This gentleman qas kind wnough to make a few comparison graphs between a number of reviews currently out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ca8kaf

There are one or two games that favor intel, FC:ND as an example. But avg fps on 1440p is close enough for me to think that with future security patches and efficiency increases with bios and windows updates for AMD the difference will be negligible (which it kind of already is), but I get hyperthreading with the 3700X and if more games better utilise this I will be better off with the 3700X compared to a 9700K for similar pricing.

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[PancakesZA]

I'm still itching.
Think I might sell my 9900K setup and pick up a 3900X.