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AMD Ryzen 3000 Announced, pricing and specs.

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Does not seem like there is any threads yet about the AMD computex keynote coverage. Here is the important stuff that was said for anyone that did not chek that live stream yet.

Today at Computex, AMD CEO Dr. Lisa Su is announcing the raft of processors it will be launching on its new Zen 2 chiplet-based microarchitecture. Among other things, AMD is unveiling its new Ryzen 9 product tier, which it is using for its 12-core Ryzen 9 3900X processor, and which runs at 4.6 GHz boost. All of the five processors will be PCIe 4.0 enabled, and while they are being accompanied by the new X570 chipset launch, they still use the same AM4 socket, meaning some AMD 300 and 400-series motherboards can still be used. We have all the details inside.

A lot of people have been after details about AMD’s next generation Ryzen platform for several months, ever since AMD teased the Matisse Ryzen 3000 design at CES back in January. Most of that information is coming out today, with Ryzen 9, Ryzen 7, and Ryzen 5 processors in the mix. All of these processors will be officially launched on July 7th (which is 7/7), correlating with the fact that the core chiplets of these products are built on TSMC’s 7nm process. This is technically a Sunday, but AMD doesn’t mind too much. In reality, it means users might even get them in the mail on the following Monday.

Before talking about features, let’s go straight into the CPU list, as that’s what most of you are here for.

AMD 'Matisse' Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs
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Ryzen 93900X12C24T3.84.66 MB64 MB16+4+4?105W$499
Ryzen 73800X8C16T3.94.54 MB32 MB16+4+4?105W$399
Ryzen 73700X8C16T3.64.44 MB32 MB16+4+4?65W$329
Ryzen 53600X6C12T3.84.43 MB32 MB16+4+4?95W$249
Ryzen 536006C12T3.64.23 MB32 MB16+4+4?65W$199

The New Flagship: Ryzen 9 3900X
The Ryzen 3000 series will debut a new product tier for AMD: Ryzen 9. In this case, the Ryzen 9 3900X will be AMD’s first mainstream desktop 12-core processor. The processor is the only one of the group that uses two chiplets, in a 6+6 configuration. The 3900X will have a base frequency of 3.8 GHz, a turbo frequency of 4.6 GHz, and line up with 6 MB of L2 cache and 64 MB of L3 cache. This confirms that each chiplet has 32 MB of L3 cache, doubling what we saw on the first generation of the Zen microarchitecture. This CPU has a TDP of 105W, which for AMD processors is usually a good measure of all-core power consumption, and will be enabled with 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes (16 for GPU, 4 for storage, 4 for the chipset).

AMD 'Matisse' Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs
Ryzen 9
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Ryzen 93900X12C24T3.84.66 MB64 MB16+4+4?105W$499
The Ryzen 9 3900X will have a suggested e-tail price of $499, and it will come with a cooler (more details in the coming weeks). AMD compared this processor in its presentations to Intel’s 12-core HEDT processor, the Core i9-9920X, which has an MSRP of $1199 and doesn’t come with a cooler.

In this comparison, AMD provided Cinebench R20 performance data comparing the two processors (it should be noted that we can’t confirm these results at this time). AMD states that in single thread performance, the 3900X beats the 9920X by +14%, and also wins in multi-threaded performance by 6%, all while having a lower TDP (165W vs 105W).


The Ryzen 9 3900X is the new mainstream desktop flagship, although AMD clearly has enough headroom on this design to enable a full 16 cores. Most users will expect this to come in the future, so it will be interesting to see if AMD will strategically play this card.

Mainstream Madness: Ryzen 7 at 65W
For the Ryzen 7 lineup, AMD is keeping this for the 8-core versions. These CPUs only have a single chiplet inside, and no dummy chiplet. Of the two CPUs in this segment, the one that gets a big shock from us is actually the cheaper model.

AMD 'Matisse' Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs
Ryzen 7
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Ryzen 73800X8C16T3.94.54 MB32 MB16+4+4?105W$399
Ryzen 73700X8C16T3.64.44 MB32 MB16+4+4?65W$329
The Ryzen 7 3700X is an eight core, sixteen thread CPU with a 3.6 GHz base frequency and a 4.4 GHz turbo frequency. It has 4 MB of L2 and 36 MB of L3 (half the L3 compared to Ryzen 9, because it only has one chiplet), but the amazing thing is that this chip has a TDP of just 65W. Just on paper, it looks like this processor is one of the most efficient x86 performance desktop processors ever made. This is likely the CPU configuration that AMD used in its Cinebench R20 demo back at CES, where it showed R20 equivalent multithreaded performance for 40% less system power. And the price for all this performance? Only $329. If I put my reviewer hat on and look at these specifications at a high level, the Ryzen 7 3700X promises to be the mainstream chip of choice for a substantial number of high-performance PCs this year.

Like with the Ryzen 9 3900X, AMD also ran a Cinebench comparsion with the 8 core Ryzen 3700X versus Intel's mainstream Core i7-9700K. Here they scored 4806, verus 3726 for the 9700K in R20's multithreaded test.

The other CPU in this bracket is the Ryzen 7 3800X. This is going to be the direct upgrade from the current Ryzen 7 2700X, comes with eight cores and sixteen threads, with a base frequency of 3.9 GHz and a boost frequency of 4.5 GHz. It doesn’t seem overly impressive compared to the 3700X with its larger 105W TDP for only a few hundred MHz more on the base frequency, however as we’ve seen with the 2nd Gen Ryzen, that extra TDP headroom usually helps with technologies like XFR that manage the boost frequencies. AMD hasn’t said anything new about how XFR or Precision Boost works in the new generation yet, we have to wait until nearer launch for that information. However the extra frequency and extra TDP will cost an extra $70: the Ryzen 7 3800X will retail for $399.

Budget Builds: Ryzen 5 with Six Cores
Not mentioned during the keynote, but discussed in the press release, AMD also gave information about its new Ryzen 5 processors.

AMD 'Matisse' Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs
Ryzen 5
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Ryzen 53600X6C12T3.84.43 MB32 MB16+4+4?95W$249
Ryzen 536006C12T3.64.23 MB32 MB16+4+4?65W$199
These are still very competitive – users can now buy a six-core processor for under $200. The processor frequencies are consummate with the position in the stack, along with the pricing, and both CPUs will support all the same technologies (PCIe 4.0, etc) as the bigger chips. These chips still use a single chiplet, not a dual chiplet design.

Performance Numbers
AMD provided some performance numbers to compare AMD to Intel CPUs. All of these tests are using Cinebench R20, which should be noted is a floating point rendering test that AMD already does well on, but there aren’t any specific optimizations here for each CPU.



Direct chip to chip comparisons put AMD’s single thread performance against Intel at +1%. Though it should be noted here that something like the Ryzen 7 3800X, which boosts to 4.5 GHz, is being compared to an Intel CPU that boosts to 5.0 GHz. That would put IPC on this test firmly in the hands of AMD. Multi-threading results are a similar scenario, although the margin of difference tends to drop the more cores that AMD has access to, perhaps because more cores are fighting to get to the memory with a slightly extended memory latency compared from Intel.

Comparing Zen 1 to Zen 2, AMD is promoting that the Ryzen 9 3900X offers +32% better single threaded performance over the Ryzen 7 1800X. Given that we saw a 40-52% IPC increase from pre-Zen to Zen 1, another +32% on single threaded performance is a good amount to have, although that 32% does include frequency uplift. When we get the chips in, we’ll do an obvious comparison test to find the IPC difference. In multi-threaded results, AMD is promoting +100% multithreaded performance, which is helped by +50% more cores, 2x better FP throughput per core, and higher frequencies.

Other Features and X570 Motherboards
Aside from the 7nm chiplets, and the monumental price comparison to Intel, there are some other features to mention. AMD is promoting a +15% direct IPC increase from Zen 1 to Zen 2, due to microarchitecture improvements and cache size doubling on the L3. The CPU has 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes: sixteen for the GPU (or other PCIe cards), four for storage, and four for the chipset. The four for storage will likely be linked to the top M.2 slot. Given that some companies are advertising PCIe 4.0 SSDs here at Computex, we expect more to follow in due course.


The new X570 chipset has 16 lanes, four for the upstream connection to the CPU, and twelve downstream for other devices. There is some discontinuity here – we heard from partners that AMD actually removed four PCIe lanes from the chipset design in order to bring the TDP of the chipset down from 15W to 11W; but the full-fat 15W version will be on the next editions of the high-end desktop (which would suggest that Threadripper isn’t dead, contrary to a lot of reporting – this is a question we will be asking Lisa Su later today). We have already seen a number of X570 motherboards ready to enter the market, and we expect around 25 new X570 models in total. It is clear that motherboard manufacturers are now getting serious on AM4 – some of these boards are likely to retail up to $600. These manufacturers are clearly expecting AMD to hit Intel hard, and have designed the motherboards to match the best that they make for Intel's CPUs.

One bit of information not disclosed is memory support, however given our discussions with AMD’s partners, this is likely to be DDR4-3200 in one module per channel mode. This is a small bump over 2nd Gen Ryzen, but still a welcome one. It will be interesting to see how the memory controller works on this design for pushing that frequency. The memory frequency and Infinity Fabric frequency are still linked as before, so bumping up the memory frequency has additional benefits.

Finally, the release date for all these CPUs is going to be July 7th. We’re waiting on AMD to disclose the sampling time frame, but our aim is to get our review up on day one. Suggestions for the review are most welcome.

 

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If reasonably accurate , clock speeds are still rather low .
If purely a gaming PC , not a simple choice.
Will depend on pricing as it often does for the mainstream.
 

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If reasonably accurate , clock speeds are still rather low .
If purely a gaming PC , not a simple choice.
Will depend on pricing as it often does for the mainstream.
Two ways of looking at it, according to their test they have a 1% ipc lead over intel while only running at 4.5GHZ while intel runs at 5GHZ to get to the same place? This is also in regard to single thread performance which is what really matters when gaming. Always best to wait on reviews though. Im interested in upgrading this year from my 4790 so im keeping an eye on this
 

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Will be either be a 3900x or 3800x for me. Just depending on reviews and mobo pricing.
 

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If reasonably accurate , clock speeds are still rather low .
If purely a gaming PC , not a simple choice.
Will depend on pricing as it often does for the mainstream.
Its IPC gain is substantial and basically on par or exceeds that of intel, at lower clock speeds.
It will be damn interesting to see actual real world scenario figures

Anyway competition is good and AMD i would gladly upgrade from my 8700k to the 12 core 3900x.
 

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Its IPC gain is substantial and basically on par or exceeds that of intel, at lower clock speeds.
It will be damn interesting to see actual real world scenario figures

Anyway competition is good and AMD i would gladly upgrade from my 8700k to the 12 core 3900x.
Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
 

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Would I be on the right path in assuming the price of a 3600X will be approximately R4000 locally?
 

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Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
Yeah I decided when I got 4770H that I would not upgrade again till we get stock clocks at 4-4.4Ghz or even higher. I'm still waiting. I realise by IPC I'm starting to lag behind quite a lot but it still doesn't feel there's a worthy upgrade out there because we are still playing in mid 3 Ghzs where the Haswell already was all those years ago, only the 9900K comes close but daaaamn that price.
 
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Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
Lol, I want Moar cores!!!!! but yeah i guess i'm fine with my CPU, quite an easy overclock to 5GHZ anyway.
it would be nice not having to throw more cores at the issue, Rather get better an more efficient architecture.
 

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Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
Yeah haha I want them 10GHz CPUs. Also thought we would have long passed 5GHz by now.
 

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Would I be on the right path in assuming the price of a 3600X will be approximately R4000 locally?
Well, the 2600X was almost 5K a while back.
Take in consideration the Rand is up to shit (almost R15).
 

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Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
Hahaha, dude, people on this site don't really "need" to upgrade, but who can resist the CUD? :D
 

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I've been without a desktop for a few months now, and just after I ordered parts to build a solid Coffee Lake RGB desktop, AMD releases the date for Ryzen 3000.
*CUD cries*
 

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Hahaha, dude, people on this site don't really "need" to upgrade, but who can resist the CUD? :D
CUD is a dying addiction. ;)
With the cost of living skyrocketing and our money going nowhere, no one but the very wealthy will know about CUD in the future.
 

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If reasonably accurate , clock speeds are still rather low .
If purely a gaming PC , not a simple choice.
Will depend on pricing as it often does for the mainstream.
This is the official specs announced by AMD, so it's 100% accurate. The clocks might be lower than most people hoped, but keep in mind that 2nd-gen Ryzen processors can reach 50Mhz above their quoted boost with all-cores in stock config, given sufficient cooling. So comparing apples-to-apples with Intel (not considering overclocking), the 3600X (6C/12T) should easily do 4.3GHz or more all-core sustained boost, and a i7-8700K (6C/12T) all-core boost is also 4.3GHz. People with engineering samples of Ryzen 3000 have claimed to overclock the chips to 4.8GHz, but that remains to be seen if it's true.

Unless you are a streamer absolutely no need to upgrade an 8700K. Lucky dude .
I'm sure 95% of people will never need 12 cores.
Would be nice if both Intel and AMD stopped with the core obsession and actually got the clock speeds up . If you had asked me 10 years ago we would still be struggling to get to 5GHz I would have eaten my hand off. Let's have a 10Ghz 6 core please . It's almost 2020 ;)
Unfortunately silicon CPUs are never going to reach frequencies far beyond 5GHz with normal cooling solutions. That is why we're in the core race! The next decade is going to be very interesting to see what happens in the development of new process nodes.
 

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CUD is a dying addiction. ;)
With the cost of living skyrocketing and our money going nowhere, no one but the very wealthy will know about CUD in the future.
Good point, considering I'm still running a 3770k 😆
 

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Good point, considering I'm still running a 3770k 😆
And a fine CPU it is. 8 years on from it's release it's still a decent performer.
Don't think the CPU 's of today will be very good in 8 years.
 

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I've been without a desktop for a few months now, and just after I ordered parts to build a solid Coffee Lake RGB desktop, AMD releases the date for Ryzen 3000.
*CUD cries*
should know that computex is around this time :p
 

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