HeaDphone Discussions. (Audiophile and Gaming)

Ninja_Theory · Jun 28, 2019

@Ac!DLeAk I did get the mail that my 789 "headphones" are delayed

Ac!DLeAk · Jun 28, 2019

Ninja_Theory said:
@Ac!DLeAk I did get the mail that my 789 "headphones" are delayed

I was wondering last night if the amp is THAT good that it doubles as like a virtual headphone as well? Massdrop THX AAA 789 AmpPhone

Toy Machine · Jun 28, 2019

I missed out on SHP9500's by a day :'( PepeHands, was so keen for them

Montezuma · Jun 28, 2019

Ninja_Theory said:
At least it doesn't have that 1980's curly telephone wire cable.

I actually like the twisted cable (or whatever its officially called), but I can see why it is only on the "Pro" version, gives one freedom around a mixing desk/PC without cable all over the place.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Ac!DLeAk said:
Because gamers can be gullible

You read the rest of that post right?

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Toy Machine said:
I missed out on SHP9500's by a day :'( PepeHands, was so keen for them

Upgrade your Takstar Pro80s to Pro82s with the CM MH751. Zeos liked the 751/2 a lot more than the Alpha.

Ac!DLeAk · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
You read the rest of that post right?

Yip. That's what made me change to "can be" instead "are" which would have included you in the statement...

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Ac!DLeAk said:
Yip. That's what made me change to "can be" instead "are" which would have included you in the statement...

No but I mean doesn't that change your mind? You are content with running into groundloop issues when not using the MMX 300 like a 990 people seem to think it is (in other words micless)?

Toy Machine · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
Upgrade your Takstar Pro80s to Pro82s with the CM MH751. Zeos liked the 751/2 a lot more than the Alpha.

Yeah I have been wanting to try the 751's since I saw his reviews on them. But when there was a set of SHP's that had barely been used at all I really wanted to get a hold of them. Pity I missed them, wanted them since I could also connect a mic to them. Was looking in Presonus HD7's too but I need a mic and can't buy a standalone studio mic right now so need a integrated one.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Toy Machine said:
Yeah I have been wanting to try the 751's since I saw his reviews on them. But when there was a set of SHP's that had barely been used at all I really wanted to get a hold of them. Pity I missed them, wanted them since I could also connect a mic to them. Was looking in Presonus HD7's too but I need a mic and can't buy a standalone studio mic right now so need a integrated one.

Damn if I'd known I would have PMed you straight away. Saw the thread like 5 minutes after it was put up. Sorry man.

Ac!DLeAk · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
No but I mean doesn't that change your mind? You are content with running into groundloop issues when not using the MMX 300 like a 990 people seem to think it is (in other words micless)?

To be fair... I didn't pay much attention to the technicalities of the post. Was coming from a general polish a turd and call it a gaming turd and gamers will pay extra for it. Like chairs, keyboards etc.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

PandaAttack1 said:
You will love tubes dude. Everyone wants a DV.

Nah. I don't want tubes. No ways.

The idea of having these extra glass tubes sticking out of my gear does appeal to me at all. And they don't add anything to general use as far as I know, just music. In fact they might even muddy up gaming.

I may or may not end up climbing higher some day, but never to tubes.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Ac!DLeAk said:
To be fair... I didn't pay much attention to the technicalities of the post. Was coming from a general polish a turd and call it a gaming turd and gamers will pay extra for it. Like chairs, keyboards etc.

Oh damnit. I mixed up you and De_Stroyer. Nevermind.

I don't recall getting a memo that we are considering Beyerdynamics turds now though?

So does that also qualify the Mobius as a turd keeping in mind who makes it?

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

PickleRick said:
might buy them on prime day depending on the discount,
have only read extremely good reviews

Sigh. Seeing as I quoted the wrong person let's try this again.

The thing to be aware of with a headset is you are limiting your dac/amp options severely. Because if mic and audio are cabled to separated devices from the same device you get groundloop noise, a lot of it.

The top can you can go to is basically the Mayflower Arc so you can never try richer audiophile options like R2R11s, Deckards, anything Class A basically.

If you want to be an audiophile, but want a headset style mic then your only choice is adding a Modmic to some headphones.

Ac!DLeAk · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
Oh damnit. I mixed up you and De_Stroyer. Nevermind.

I don't recall getting a memo that we are considering Beyerdynamics turds now though?

So does that also qualify the the Mobius as a turd?

No not saying that... I haven't tried Beyers yet to can't comment. Will buy a set of 1990 when the 789 arrives. Was saying it would make sense if they used the the 990 drivers, add a mic and call it "gaming" and then add a premium/charge 1990 prices. The average gamer will never try the 1990 so they will get a couple of people that will buy them, more so if you add the people on youtube that are bribed into giving good reviews.

Toy Machine · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
Damn if I'd known I would have PMed you straight away. Saw the thread like 5 minutes after it was put up. Sorry man.

Which thread?

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Ac!DLeAk said:
No not saying that... I haven't tried Beyers yet to can't comment. Will buy a set of 1990 when the 789 arrives. Was saying it would make sense if they used the the 990 drivers, add a mic and call it "gaming" and then add a premium/charge 1990 prices. The average gamer will never try the 1990 so they will get a couple of people that will buy them, more so if you add the people on youtube that are bribed into giving good reviews.

Ah ok. Gotcha finally.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Toy Machine said:
Which thread?

When the SHPs were on sale like a month ago? There were actually 2 of them.

Ninja_Theory · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
The thing to be aware of with a headset is you are limiting your dac/amp options severely. Because if mic and audio are cabled to separated devices from the same device you get groundloop noise, a lot of it.

Does the groundloop issue even happen when all devices in the chain are plugged into the same wall socket ie not via multi-plugs and extensions?

Toy Machine · Jun 28, 2019

oooooh, Yeah I saw Pancakes' ones and would've grabbed those with the Vmoda. But also didn't have the cash so I wouldn't have been able to.

Might grab off Amazon if push comes to shove and I really want them.

Also while it's on my mind, does ZA have an Audio focused forum?

Montezuma · Jun 28, 2019

Suddenly feels like everyone is talking at once over each other (Slow Friday at the office?)

Anyway. Remind me again under what circumstances one gets a ground loop in a mic/headphone setup?
I have a seperate headphone and microphone (which I use rarely, one of those zalman el budgetos) but have never had ground loop issues with microphone and headphones plugged into the seperate jacks on my pc.

Also, almost certain if one uses a USB DAC to headphone Amp, or heck even an optical input DAC to headphone Amp, and plugs microphone directly to PC there wouldn't be a ground loop.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Ninja_Theory said:
Does the groundloop issue even happen when all devices in the chain are plugged into the same wall socket ie not via multi-plugs and extensions?

As far as I know yes because that would still be via different power bricks and PSUs right? It's the earths of the devices themselves freaking out, not further down the chain.

Montezuma · Jun 28, 2019

Ninja_Theory said:
Does the groundloop issue even happen when all devices in the chain are plugged into the same wall socket ie not via multi-plugs and extensions?

Just to be safe I recommend removing the ground wire from all the plugs. Just don't touch anything with a metal case

(Note: I am not an electrician and am prone to sarcasm... just an FYI)

waz · Jun 28, 2019

Could anyone recommend wireless headphones in price range of R1500 with some links, looking for comfortable ones.

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Montezuma said:
Suddenly feels like everyone is talking at once over each other (Slow Friday at the office?)

Anyway. Remind me again under what circumstances one gets a ground loop in a mic/headphone setup?
I have a seperate headphone and microphone (which I use rarely, one of those zalman el budgetos) but have never had ground loop issues with microphone and headphones plugged into the seperate jacks on my pc.

Also, almost certain if one uses a USB DAC to headphone Amp, or heck even an optical input DAC to headphone Amp, and plugs microphone directly to PC there wouldn't be a ground loop.

Actually separated like that you can literally never get ground loop.

It's when line in and out feed back to the same device that you get the loop. So V-Moda Boom Pro or any headset.

Montezuma · Jun 28, 2019

SCHUMI4EVER said:
Actually separated like that you can literally never get ground loop.

It's when line in and out feed back to the same device that you get the loop.

Ah, indeed, so how is one limited to using lower end headphone amps? Or did I miss something?

SykomantiS · Jun 28, 2019

waz said:
Could anyone recommend wireless headphones in price range of R1500 with some links, looking for comfortable ones.

What type/size? Over-ear / on-ear/in-ear?

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

Montezuma said:
Ah, indeed, so how is one limited to using lower end headphone amps? Or did I miss something?

No. It's when they are combined that you are limited.

Because combined needs to be 1 to 1.

Maybe this way works better

1 -> 1 = FINE
2 -> 2 (or even more if you are Zeos nuts) = FINE
1 -> 2 = groundloop

And your 1->1 options are very limited because most dac/amps don't do recording. Basically from what I know you've got Sound Cards, that cheap Sybasonic unit, the GSX1000/1200 and the Mayflower Arc.

waz · Jun 28, 2019

SykomantiS said:
What type/size? Over-ear / on-ear/in-ear?

Not going to lie, I have no idea. I have been using these for the quite a while now, so I'm not sure what to go to next.
Buy SteelSeries Siberia v2 Heat Orange USB Gaming Headset / Classic Siberia Enhance / Personalize Equalize / Retractable Microphone / Light'em up / Keep Out the Noise / Lightweight Champion / Heat Orange Illumination / In-line Volume Control / Clean Soundscape at Evetech.co.za

SCHUMI4EVER · Jun 28, 2019

waz said:
Not going to lie, I have no idea. I have been using these for the quite a while now, so I'm not sure what to go to next.
Buy SteelSeries Siberia v2 Heat Orange USB Gaming Headset / Classic Siberia Enhance / Personalize Equalize / Retractable Microphone / Light'em up / Keep Out the Noise / Lightweight Champion / Heat Orange Illumination / In-line Volume Control / Clean Soundscape at Evetech.co.za

Do you need the mic? Because that effectively keeps you out of the audiophile space if you want that wireless too, especially at that budget.

I reckon the Arctis range is better than the Syberia though.

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