Has jpixel pulled this stunt on you

maq_ · Feb 4, 2019

Good day carnies I am posting this on behalf of @VolderTort

So long story short, @JPixel posts a sale thread for a cheap high end phone. At the price it's too good to resist, e.g: 6k for a s9 but on condition he will send it in a week's time.

Voldertort pays him and when the time comes to ship he says that the phone got stolen and he will refund him but only in a few days. Sounds suspicious but anyway his itrader is high so he is given the benefit of the doubt.

A month later he advertises another phone with the same modus operandi. @qa.saikiran is the lucky buyer to score a s9 for 6k. However when the time comes to deliver he makes a long excuse and tells him he will refund him in installments.

@JPixel this is scammy behaviour to get a quick short term loan. It is also very unethical and something that shouldn't be happening on carb

Toxxyc · Feb 4, 2019

@JPixel this isn't the first time I've been hearing about this. Care to comment?

jasong · Feb 4, 2019

Yeah he did exactly the same thing to me. Jpixel it's very dodgy and I should have reported it when it happened.

Flex · Feb 4, 2019

jasong said:
Yeah he did exactly the same thing to me. Jpixel it's very dodgy and I should have reported it when it happened.

Hope this is relevant to the case. But can I ask why none of the people with these deals have not submitted a single neutral or negative iTrade to warn people dealing with him in the future? It seems to be a regular occurrence yet has only has positive itrades.

snorbaard · Feb 4, 2019

What I don't understand about his latest S9 sale is that he sold it so long, already got positive feedback for it, but he will only get the phone in the future (10 Feb)?

Snyper564 · Feb 4, 2019

snorbaard said:
What I don't understand about his latest S9 sale is that he sold it so long, already got positive feedback for it, but he will only get the phone in the future (10 Feb)?

This makes absolutely no sense and is beyond fishy

The phone is only available from the 10th of feb but this was the given feedback?

"Okay guys, here is the catch - the upgrade phone only arrives on the 10th of February. I ship it as soon as possible after that"

@Molarus

I swear he is Superman. Responds instantly, and delivered already even though his ad said next month. Very very cool guy and I would definitely recommend him to anyone.

This guy is Superman!

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This looks like the same phone was "sold" to two ppl? @VolderTort and @Molarus

maq_ · Feb 4, 2019

Flex said:
Hope this is relevant to the case. But can I ask why none of the people with these deals have not submitted a single neutral or negative iTrade to warn people dealing with him in the future? It seems to be a regular occurrence yet has only has positive itrades.

The possible reason is that if you look at each case in isolation it seems that his excuses are plausible, especially since he has a high itrader. However, when you see that he has done this to more than one person that is when it seems dodgy.

He has done this with 3 people so far.
@VolderTort , @qa.saikiran and @jasong

the question is how many others has he pulled this stunt with and for how long is he doing it

plummet · Feb 4, 2019

this happened to me as well with @JPixel
i didnt report because i thought his excuse was genuine.. but now seeing his been doing it to many other people, maybe was a scam? 🤷‍♂️

VolderTort · Feb 4, 2019

Snyper564 said:
This looks like the same phone was "sold" to two ppl? [IMG alt="VolderTort"]https://carbonite.co.za/data/avatars/s/15/15922.jpg?1527438046[/IMG] VolderTort and ...

[Sale] - Samsung Galaxy S9 | Phones

Item: Samsung Galaxy S9 64GB black Age: Brand new. Price: R6500 Warranty: Full remaining Packaging: Sealed Condition: New Location: Richards Bay Reason: Need money, upgrade phone Shipping: Yes, cost and risk on you Collection: With my current work schedule, a little difficult. Guys please...

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That was my deal that he made an excuse that it got stolen. Reason for not putting up a negative itrader was because I wasn't sure if it was perhaps a true unfortunate event. Felt dodgy but I couldn't assume.

Then he put 2 more sale threads for an S9, with a similar thing. (Early in the month, only shipping after month end. Seemed like he just couldn't make the month)

Toxxyc · Feb 4, 2019

@JPixel there are now 4 members claiming you did the same thing to them:

@plummet, @qa.saikiran, @jasong and @VolderTort

I think it's best you state your side here ASAP.

jasong · Feb 4, 2019

Flex said:
Hope this is relevant to the case. But can I ask why none of the people with these deals have not submitted a single neutral or negative iTrade to warn people dealing with him in the future? It seems to be a regular occurrence yet has only has positive itrades.

Yeah fair question. He's a really nice guy is all I can say and he refunded without any question so I just dropped it.

Flex · Feb 4, 2019

Toxxyc said:
@JPixel there are now 4 members claiming you did the same thing to them:

@plummet, @qa.saikiran, @jasong and @VolderTort

I think it's best you state your side here ASAP.

So all of them payed, did not receive the phone and no refund (except jasong)?
Were all of these deals for a S9 or something else advertised?

Snyper564 · Feb 4, 2019

Flex said:
So all of them payed, did not receive the phone and no refund?
Were all of these deals for a S9 or something else advertised?

@Molarus actually received the phone a few weeks before it was indicated that it would be available...

jasong · Feb 4, 2019

Flex said:
So all of them payed, did not receive the phone and no refund?
Were all of these deals for a S9 or something else advertised?

He refunded everyone afaik

veez007 · Feb 4, 2019

By just reading the comments made by affected carbies seems like he is using this has a short term loan without the interest ....

Snyper564 · Feb 4, 2019

veez007 said:
By just reading the comments made by affected carbies seems like he is using this has a short term loan without the interest ....

What boggles my mind is why nothing was mentioned earlier... We really need to indicate things like this earlier...

Dom · Feb 5, 2019

Snyper564 said:
What boggles my mind is why nothing was mentioned earlier... We really need to indicate things like this earlier...

My 2c, the concerned/affected members should have at least made the admins/mods aware of their suspicion at the time (if nothing comes of it then be it) but this sadly seems to have reached a "political saga" outcome.

chickenbeef · Feb 5, 2019

Snyper564 said:
What boggles my mind is why nothing was mentioned earlier... We really need to indicate things like this earlier...

+1, money changed hands so a neutral rating should have at least been given. That would have also made it easier to spot this trend.

VolderTort · Feb 5, 2019

Snyper564 said:
What boggles my mind is why nothing was mentioned earlier... We really need to indicate things like this earlier...

Looking at each individual incident, it seems very legit. And on the forum its frowned upon to just accuse people of foul play without valid proof. Especially if looking at an isolated excuse, the "poor guys" phone got "stolen". Would be hard to just say that the guy used me as wonga short term loans.

Snyper564 · Feb 5, 2019

VolderTort said:
Looking at each individual incident, it seems very legit. And on the forum its frowned upon to just accuse people of foul play without valid proof. Especially if looking at an isolated excuse, the "poor guys" phone got "stolen". Would be hard to just say that the guy used me as wonga short term loans.

Hey man look I understand but what I said is that @Molarus left a positive review for the exact same thread of the phone that was "stolen" that you intended to purchase.

This guy is Superman!

carbonite.co.za

Dom · Feb 5, 2019

VolderTort said:
Looking at each individual incident, it seems very legit. And on the forum its frowned upon to just accuse people of foul play without valid proof. Especially if looking at an isolated excuse, the "poor guys" phone got "stolen". Would be hard to just say that the guy used me as wonga short term loans.

Agreed, finger pointing/poop flinging does generally not have a good outcome but the mods/admins can still be messaged in private & if you hear suspicious things from different members it would raise an eyebrow even a little (this sounds like the case as per Toxxy's message at least).

VolderTort · Feb 5, 2019

Dom said:
Agreed, finger pointing/poop flinging does generally not have a good outcome but the mods/admins can still be messaged in private & if you hear suspicious things from different members it would raise an eyebrow even a little (this sounds like the case as per Toxxy's message at least).

Yes i private messaged @Toxxyc as soon as I felt that it was a bit fishy. A while before this thread was created actually. So had that covered as well. And as @Toxxyc told me, we had to wait and see if it was a recurring event (as I did get paid back eventually).

Also, I private messaged whoever I thought may have been involved with @JPixel to find out if they have received devices. And that's how we knew that it's a problem and a public thread could be created.
So whoever thinks nothing has been done straight away might not understand that is was a delicate situation, and required a small "investigation".. if I could put it like that.

VeximalZA · Feb 5, 2019

Well this is shocking... I only have good things to say about the guy!

Also long story short, I messaged him very soon after his post went live and paid the money over to his account almost instantly based on his itrader.

We managed to work out a deal where I could receive the phone earlier. I think I actually received the phone just a few days after instead of like a month as originally promised which was absolutely great. He always answered his phone, gave me feedback often and went out of his way for me.

SILTECH786 · Feb 5, 2019

I bought a device by the gentleman in 2018 Jan my brother made payment & received it as advertised also great communication as I was in Durban at this point on vacation

Simply put playing assumption that his a scammer/fraud etc is abit harsh my view as there many on this forum who could be given the same title I would rather rely on his explanation firstly.

maq_ · Feb 5, 2019

@Molarus
Well this is shocking... I only have good things to say about the guy!

Also long story short, I messaged him very soon after his post went live and paid the money over to his account almost instantly based on his itrader.

We managed to work out a deal where I could receive the phone earlier. I think I actually received the phone just a few days after instead of like a month as originally promised which was absolutely great. He always answered his phone, gave me feedback often and went out of his way for me.

perhaps you can message him and ask him to give his side of the story here on the forum?

maq_ · Feb 5, 2019

@ViVception
@Toxxyc @JPixel messaged me on Tapatalk to request that he be unbanned so that he can give his side of the story.

VeximalZA · Feb 5, 2019

maq_ said:
perhaps you can message him and ask him to give his side of the story here on the forum?

I did send him a whatsapp at around 5pm and we had a conversation. For what it's worth, he wasn't trying to evade the conversation at all.

JPixel · Feb 6, 2019

Wow. As always on the internet the charge, investigation and judgement has been concluded by parties who do not have all of the needed information.

So the bottom line is this - I have had several similar deals, as I have a few contracts on my name which upgrade at different times. Interesting to see that despite my sales ALWAYS being upfront, professional and characterized by good communication, some people are unhappy. I invite anyone of the affected members to explain in detail to me where you did not receive your phone or your money. I don't think the circumstances regarding each deal has much to do with anyone except me and the person I am dealing with. Again, in each and every situation I handled the deal with clear communication, transparency and positive outcomes, despite me battling hectic financial and personal difficulties. (Which was always communicated clearly but never used as an excuse to harm anyone).

What all of the parties are forgetting to mention is the fact that they decided with open eyes to proceed with the deal as the conditions and time frames were laid out to them before any money changed hands.

I am not sure what you want me to say about the circumstances of each individual deal - if you choose to believe I lie about every deal just to borrow money, that is your choice. I am not here to provide anyone with proof of what has happened with the individual deals I have had. Each deal had a set of circumstances which forced me to handle it in a certain way. This was always transparent and verifiable by the person I was dealing with at the time.

Easy to chime in here in a thread, but none of the members expressed any concern or required any further proof of what went wrong, which I would have happily and easily provided to the individual in question.

So in conclusion:

High iTrader over a long period of time.
Clear communication and upfront, transparent arrangements.
No harm done to any member, except perhaps their time being wasted. (Which they were aware of before engaging in the deal).
Other members confirming they are happy with deals we have done, and where they received more than they bargained for.

My apologies to any member who feels unfairly treated by me, as well as to the people who try their best to see patterns and make accusations, as I think you need to spend some more time offline in the real world. Take that as you will.

eY_b0ss · Feb 6, 2019

That last part in your message was a bit uncalled for.

JPixel said:
My apologies to any member who feels unfairly treated by me, as well as to the people who try their best to see patterns and make accusations, as I think you need to spend some more time offline in the real world. Take that as you will.

I for one am glad that there are users and administrators who take the time to look at sketchy patterns in dealings such as yours. It makes Carbonite a safer place to conduct deals on.

I'm not saying you're a dodgy individual, I'm saying without them more people will get scammed. Your apology is a ploy to bitch at them.

Take that as you will.

ThatGuy_ZA · Feb 6, 2019

JPixel said:
So in conclusion:

High iTrader over a long period of time.

Clear communication and upfront, transparent arrangements.

No harm done to any member, except perhaps their time being wasted. (Which they were aware of before engaging in the deal).

Other members confirming they are happy with deals we have done, and where they received more than they bargained for.

Isn't that EXACTLY what happened with BlackAdept/Max/Regi? We all know how that turned out...

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