Z590 thread

[JollyJamma]

Hi all
Z590 has launched and it's largely a rehashed Z490 chipset with new processors.

The 11900K has 2 fewer cores than the 10900K for one major change.

Best webpage right now is Gigabyte Intel Z590 | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

The release was pulled forward from March 2021.

 

[Valheru]

The 11900K has 2 fewer cores than the 10900K for one major change.

Recently discussed this with Siltech and I said that these CPU's would be great from a pure technilogical view, BUT:

• I am not too sure the hype is real, Intel might be playing us for fools by trying to out-do AMD and NVidia.
• The backport from 10nm to 14nm will hurt them plenty, rumours abound that these puppies will be sucking 240W+ when opening the taps a little. The "crap" Z490 boards will melt at the mere sight of these CPU's.
• You will likely need something exotic to cool these things, somehting like a 360AIO will not be sufficient.

 

[iamgigglz]

Pffft, they'll enable SAM on Z490 soon and Z590 will be pointless

As a mid-tier user I've just switched from Z370 to B550 (with a 3600) and have a decent upgrade path already available to me. It's going to take at least another generation or two for me to consider going back.

 

[JollyJamma]

Recently discussed this with Siltech and I said that these CPU's would be great from a pure technilogical view, BUT:

• I am not too sure the hype is real, Intel might be playing us for fools by trying to out-do AMD and NVidia.
• The backport from 10nm to 14nm will hurt them plenty, rumours abound that these puppies will be sucking 240W+ when opening the taps a little. The "crap" Z490 boards will melt at the mere sight of these CPU's.
• You will likely need something exotic to cool these things, somehting like a 360AIO will not be sufficient.

That would explain why the high end Gigabyte Z590 board has an true 18 phase VRM with a 20 phase controller.

I think Z590 will be good, I just don’t think it’ll be good enough to make users jump from a decent AMD B550 rig (as you said yourself).

I don’t mind having a CPU with a 250+ watt power draw but I can’t really see myself jumping from AMD just yet.

If I was an extreme overclocker who had a container of LN2 on hand and 2 K|ngp|n 3090 graphics cards, then hell yes.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

Gotta see the gaming benchmarks but probably not worth it. If the 11700k matches the 5800x then that would be a good step forward, and AMD goes back to only having advantages in core count and 7nm fabrication.

The real 10nm Alder Lake is also supposed to be out by the end of the year too so it seems like a really busy year for Intel.

 

[JollyJamma]

Gotta see the gaming benchmarks but probably not worth it. If the 11700k matches the 5800x then that would be a good step forward, and AMD goes back to only having advantages in core count and 7nm fabrication.

The real 10nm Alder Lake is also supposed to be out by the end of the year too so it seems like a really busy year for Intel.

I really wouldn’t upgrade to Z590 if I knew that Alder Lake is coming.

 

[SILTECH786]

This bold release should presumably bring down most of the Z490 mobo pricing although the current usd price is on an uptrend movement but always great to see new stuff.

 

[AinsleyHarriott]

No Z590 boards can be 'crap' then...

Will be waiting eagerly for HU VRM tests.

 

[JollyJamma]

No Z590 boards can be 'crap' then...

ASrock will find a way to make them shit.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

99% of the Z590 boards will handle them fine at stock.

Overclocking will be the real test, but then again we already had a monstrously power hungry 10900k 10 core and we didn't see people killing cheap boards through ignorance.

 

[Valheru]

If I was an extreme overclocker who had a container of LN2 on hand and 2 K|ngp|n 3090 graphics cards, then hell yes.

There were some "leaks" in the last few days that these babies can hit 7GHz on LN2. Really keen to see what the XOC guys can get with it.

Also nice to see a new architecture from Intel, even though not exactly what was promised.

 

[Oj0]

The Gigabyte boards in the OP are not finalized. Eg, you'll see most don't have spec pages and the few that do only mention support for up to DDR4-3200 for now. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the product pages just yet.

 

[JollyJamma]

 

[dotnerd]

This gathering is illegal, there is no life outside of AMD.

 

[JollyJamma]

This gathering is illegal, there is no life outside of AMD.

AMD is love, AMD is life

 

[Nyt Ryda]

I really wouldn’t upgrade to Z590 if I knew that Alder Lake is coming.

Might be coming in September already if the tech leakers are accurate. Maybe because Zen 3 was so good ?

Source : Intel rumored to announce 12th Gen Core Alder Lake-S in September - VideoCardz.com

 

[JollyJamma]

Might be coming in September already if the tech leakers are accurate. Maybe because Zen 3 was so good ?

Source : Intel rumored to announce 12th Gen Core Alder Lake-S in September - VideoCardz.com

More than likely.

Intel now has an engineer at the helm and not a bean counter so he probably turned to them and said “get the better tech out there, now!”

 

[JollyJamma]

The Gigabyte boards in the OP are not finalized. Eg, you'll see most don't have spec pages and the few that do only mention support for up to DDR4-3200 for now. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the product pages just yet.

 

[AinsleyHarriott]

Looks like the first decent Gigabyte UD board ever. Z590 is making all the manufacturers step up their motherboard game.

 

[JollyJamma]

Thanatos_ZA​

Are you considering upgrading to Z590? Or are you holding off for Alder Lake?

 

[JollyJamma]

As the kids say, big oof

 

[JollyJamma]