Upgrade Advice?

[M@tree2]

Hi all, as stated in the title, I require advice on which upgrade path to follow.

My current system is as follows:
i7-3770
32GB 1600mhz RAM (4x8GB)
Asus P8Z77-V PRO
2x Intel 1500 series pro 180GB SSD's
1x Intel 500GB Raid volume
1x GTX970
1x CM ML240L AIO

1080p 60hz monitor

I have noticed while gaming that both CPU and GPU are running at 100%, CPU runs near capacity when 3D designing.

My question is:

I do alot of 3D designing, Fusion, autocad and the like, while also using this rig for software compiling(not sure of correct term). As of next year I will be using Eclipse and the likes to do dev work.
I do a fair amount of gaming on my rig and was wondering what the best CPU upgrade option would be? AMD or Intel and which processors on each team?

I assume cooling on the 9700k or the likes won't be an issue with a 240mm AIO mounted on the front of the case(no where else to mount it).

Please advise on the best option.
CPU,Mobo and RAM, as I already have a GPU upgrade planned and I have a M.2 970 evo SSD.
I am looking at a 1070/1070TI, or should I be looking higher?

Edit :
+/- R13k

Your advice is much appreciated!
Thanks

 

[Noble Zero]

Firstly you need to give a general budget that you've put aside for this upgrade.

Currently gaming system mostly favor Intel, this is partly due to higher clock speeds, and better optimization by developers (since games are usually developed, and tested on Intel platforms), therefor if gaming is priority one, and you really care about frame rate I would suggest an Intel system, otherwise an a Ryzen 2700/1700 system hold strong in the current game, giving you more bang for your buck, on top of that you can usually overclock these to the x variants speeds, however make sure you have sufficient cooling, also if you plan on upgrading to 2k/4k monitor for gaming the performance difference becomes less making the AMD system more viable.

In terms of development, more cores are usually better when it comes to stuff like android development ,and compiling times as it makes sense that more core means better virtualization, you will take a hit on large file transfers though NVMe with AMD but its marginally slower. If you want to dive into dual booting (highly recommended for Dev work and the fact that you got a bunch of SSD's) you can setup a Windows and Linux (Ubuntu) machine on one system and use the Linux based OS for programming (its way way faster for me at least, it feels like build/compile times are halved).

In 3D work its highly dependent on your GPU for rendering, as CPU based rendering seems to be losing its game compared to GPU's. I'd recommend the 1070ti if your on a budget, it basically a 1080 that didn't make the cut, also in some renders you actually see it perform better than older 1080s. If your a fan of ray tracing the newer Nvidia 2000 series are what you should look at. In terms of CPU having higher speeds helps especially in your view-port, that said second gen AMD still holds it own against Intel here. If your'e doing fluid sims (Houdini, Bifrost, SmokeFX) more RAM becomes important here I'd say 16GB are a minimum and 32GB being recommended.

For now though I'd recommend waiting till AMD releases it upcoming Ryzen 3000 chips, they are rumored to be running with more cores, higher speeds and are more efficient in power consumption, then after release comparing it to the Intel counter part, or just ask here again .

Apologies if I seem to lean more towards AMD.

Side note AMD systems favor higher clocked DRAM, I saw a 22 fps jump in Witcher 3 by moving from 2400Mhz to 3200Mhz.

 

[M@tree2]

Firstly you need to give a general budget that you've put aside for this upgrade.

Currently gaming system mostly favor Intel, this is partly due to higher clock speeds, and better optimization by developers (since games are usually developed, and tested on Intel platforms), therefor if gaming is priority one, and you really care about frame rate I would suggest an Intel system, otherwise an a Ryzen 2700/1700 system hold strong in the current game, giving you more bang for your buck, on top of that you can usually overclock these to the x variants speeds, however make sure you have sufficient cooling, also if you plan on upgrading to 2k/4k monitor for gaming the performance difference becomes less making the AMD system more viable.

In terms of development, more cores are usually better when it comes to stuff like android development ,and compiling times as it makes sense that more core means better virtualization, you will take a hit on large file transfers though NVMe with AMD but its marginally slower. If you want to dive into dual booting (highly recommended for Dev work and the fact that you got a bunch of SSD's) you can setup a Windows and Linux (Ubuntu) machine on one system and use the Linux based OS for programming (its way way faster for me at least, it feels like build/compile times are halved).

In 3D work its highly dependent on your GPU for rendering, as CPU based rendering seems to be losing its game compared to GPU's. I'd recommend the 1070ti if your on a budget, it basically a 1080 that didn't make the cut, also in some renders you actually see it perform better than older 1080s. If your a fan of ray tracing the newer Nvidia 2000 series are what you should look at. In terms of CPU having higher speeds helps especially in your view-port, that said second gen AMD still holds it own against Intel here. If your'e doing fluid sims (Houdini, Bifrost, SmokeFX) more RAM becomes important here I'd say 16GB are a minimum and 32GB being recommended.

For now though I'd recommend waiting till AMD releases it upcoming Ryzen 3000 chips, they are rumored to be running with more cores, higher speeds and are more efficient in power consumption, then after release comparing it to the Intel counter part, or just ask here again .

Apologies if I seem to lean more towards AMD.

Side note AMD systems favor higher clocked DRAM, I saw a 22 fps jump in Witcher 3 by moving from 2400Mhz to 3200Mhz.

Hi, price updated.
I have been leaning toward the AMD system too, as at the moment it is cheaper than Intel. I am still open to Intel, the 8086K still looks tempting.
If I go current gen AMD (2xxx) series or the 1800X, as it is marginaly better than the 2700, for my purposes, what would be the best chip? Save a few Rands and put that into a better GPU upgrade, like a 1080 or 20xx series GPU's?? Or go for a better CPU for the dev work, I will be doing more dev work next year and 3D stuff, so gaming will be falling to the wayside.

The performance difference between The AMD and Intel chips when doing dev work, I would assume the AMD comes out tops with more cores/threads, although at a lower frequency?
Interesting that in OctanceBench, the RTX2060 beats the 1080 and the 1070TI.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[M@tree2]

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[M@tree2]

Thread closed.
Thanks guys...