The RWC Thread

[Petester]

Now I realize why I couldn't take you seriously

I think you only watch Bok rugby. Perhaps you missed the fact that Ireland are on a 16 game unbeaten run. World number one with a brilliant set of forwards. France have also been massive upfront over the past year or so.
We haven't beaten either of late, so yeah, their packs are better, seriously

 

[goldfritter]

Deon had a good game, MotM in my opinion (don't actually know who got it?).

It was Deon.

 

[StangV2_0]

@Petester

https://imgur.com/8SnvDVY

 

[LouisABC]

You're missing the same thing I was missing, i.e. if Ireland lose with a high enough PD (41-20) but still get 4 tries, we all end on 15 pts and Scotland's PD will be higher than ours.

But you have to cook the books and not even Marcus Jooste is that good. It is so unlikely for Boks not to go through and if they don't it was better planned than the next installment of Mission Impossible.

 

[goldfritter]

But you have to cook the books and not even Marcus Jooste is that good. It is so unlikely for Boks not to go through and if they don't it was better planned than the next installment of Mission Impossible.

Ja no. I wouldn't bet against us to go through. But it's technically possible for Scotland to pip us.

Pool of death for sure.

 

[Petester]

@Petester

https://imgur.com/8SnvDVY

I agree. No one's opinion is important

 

[Adrenalin]

Explains it perfectly

 

[Areola Grande]

I agree. No one's opinion is important

Mostly just yours though.

 

[netstrider]

Whatever Scotland adds to PD is automatically deducted from Ireland and vice versa. So, Scotland could end up beating Ireland by 13 points without getting a BP and with Ireland also not getting a BP then SA and Scotland go through.

If Scotland win by 13 their PD will be 110 and Ireland's 109.

 

[Petester]

Mostly just yours though.

We shall see. I'm doing well on my predictions so far
Thankfully I have a crystal ball here and amazingly it shows NZ beating Ireland, and of course France to beat Boks.
Will check the ball later for the other side of the draw.

 

[StangV2_0]

Found this. Gives all possible outcomes. There is only one scenario where Boks go home. A few for Ireland, and many for Scotland.

Ireland will not risk any pool exit and are going to be playing this game for the win. I cannot see Scotland reaching the milestone needed to send us packing.

https://imgur.com/iJXI0Cb

 

[Kamikaze]

I highly doubt Scotland can beat Ireland in the first place. Considering their last victory over them was in 2013 by something like 2 points. The rest were comfortable Ireland victories.

So I don't see what all this fuss is about.

 

[StangV2_0]

So I don't see what all this fuss is about.

How DARE you try be the voice of reason in our banter!!!!!

 

[crackOlicious]

I think the confusion is, what takes preference? PD or which team beat which previously

 

[Divan85]

So if 2 teams finish on the same points, it goes according to head-to-head result. If, however, 3 teams finish on the same points, then the team with best PD gets top spot, the remaining two teams are separated based on the head-to-head result. So if Scotland beat Ireland by 21+ points they will be top spot because of PD and Ireland 2nd because they beat us, regardless of our PD.

 

[baasgene]

So many hypotheticals hahaha, jesus did you see the ireland defense? On a good day the scotties will maybe land 1 try.

It would be more beneficial for Ireland to have us face France rather than Scotland so no rigging necessary. France is the 2nd favorite alongside new zealand (ireland is looking the strongest so far), so if we knock out France then Ireland will be better off for it.

No need to stress boys, we will be facing France next in the QF.

Maar ma se koek wat gan an met Aus, daai fokkers raak nou soos india. Kan net cricket speel lykmy

 

[StangV2_0]

Mapimpi is out..

World Cup heartbreak for Mapimpi as facial fracture ends tournament, replacement not yet named | Sport

SA Rugby director of rugby Rassie Erasmus on Monday confirmed that Makazole Mapimpi's Rugby World Cup is over after sustaining a facial injury.

www.news24.com

Interesting part is last part of the article. Looks like boks will seriously consider flying back Marx etc if we reach final. Didn't know they could do that and thought if a player is replaced then they cannot return to the tournament.

 

[StangV2_0]

Mapimpi is out..

World Cup heartbreak for Mapimpi as facial fracture ends tournament, replacement not yet named | Sport

SA Rugby director of rugby Rassie Erasmus on Monday confirmed that Makazole Mapimpi's Rugby World Cup is over after sustaining a facial injury.

www.news24.com

Interesting part is last part of the article. Looks like boks will seriously consider flying back Marx etc if we reach final. Didn't know they could do that and thought if a player is replaced then they cannot return to the tournament.

With that Said. Is there a chance L Am could now come into squad? Imagine him next to Andre. Might be a very good combo!

And who should be preferred wing now to replace Mapimpi? Id go with Moodie.. Solid on defence and lots of talent. The only chink in his armor is inexpereince which has shown a few times in last few games.

 

[Petester]

Why 4 scrum halves. C'mon guys. Someone give me an articulate explanation.
Could have even brought along a recovering Pollard in the first place.
Makes no sense!

 

[StangV2_0]

Why 4 scrum halves. C'mon guys. Someone give me an articulate explanation.
Could have even brought along a recovering Pollard in the first place.
Makes no sense!

Because one of them can play wing. 2 If you include Cobus who is no slouch. And that's why I think they going to call up Dweba or L Am to replace Mapimpi. They won't be calling up a wing.

 

[Divan85]

Mapimpi is out..

Interesting part is last part of the article. Looks like boks will seriously consider flying back Marx etc if we reach final. Didn't know they could do that and thought if a player is replaced then they cannot return to the tournament.

I think you are misunderstanding the article. They will fly the guys back out for the final, but they won't be eligible to play. They will be there as part of the non-playing RWC squad, basically spectators only.

As for L Am returning, I don't know if they'll do that. Bringing him back now in the knockouts might not be a good idea. If it was still pool stages and he had a chance to get some game time before the KO's then maybe.

To be honest, we don't need another wing and I don't think Mapimpi was going to play in the KO's anyway, our 2 starting wings will be Arendse and Kolbe. Moody is backup if one of them gets injured. As for the bench Williams and Reinach can cover wing if need be.

 

[StangV2_0]

I think you are misunderstanding the article. They will fly the guys back out for the final, but they won't be eligible to play. They will be there as part of the non-playing RWC squad, basically spectators only.

As for L Am returning, I don't know if they'll do that. Bringing him back now in the knockouts might not be a good idea. If it was still pool stages and he had a chance to get some game time before the KO's then maybe.

To be honest, we don't need another wing and I don't think Mapimpi was going to play in the KO's anyway, our 2 starting wings will be Arendse and Kolbe. Moody is backup if one of them gets injured. As for the bench Williams and Reinach can cover wing if need be.

Ah ok, I see what you mean. That would be a nice gesture.

I also feel we dont need another wing. Kolbe, Arendse, Grant, Cobus, Moodie, more than enough cover. Even Kriel who played wing yesterday to cover for Mapimpi.

The place we actually do need to strengthen is hooker. Dweba makes sense here. But I have a feeling the going to go for Am. If hooker was a big concern they would have called him up already and not Pollard. I wont mind being wrong though.

 

[Divan85]

I also feel we dont need another wing. Kolbe, Arendse, Grant, Cobus, Moodie, more than enough cover. Even Kriel who played wing yesterday to cover for Mapimpi.

The place we actually do need to strengthen is hooker. Dweba makes sense here. But I have a feeling the going to go for Am. If hooker was a big concern they would have called him up already and not Pollard. I wont mind being wrong though.

Kriel played center yesterday, Moodie moved to wing.

Dweba is a risk, he is too inconsistent at line outs, we can't risk that. I honestly believe Deon will be our backup hooker for the rest of the tournament.

Who knows they might call up Am just for his leadership presence in the squad and practice sessions even if he doesn't end up getting any game time.

 

[StangV2_0]

Well its official. Lukhanyo Am is heading to France.

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Pollard had a good 50min. Kicking was good, slotted 4 from 4. However, when Libbok came on our back line immediately looked more dangerous and that is what Libbok brings to the team. He can put our backs away which Pollard is not that good at, maybe once he is back to his best, but there's no time for that as the next game is the QF vs France. Will be very interesting to see what Rassie and co will decide to do. Libbok also slotted 3 kicks (and missed none), his first being from the touchline, but again there surely weren't much pressure on those kicks. Also, Libbok's kicking out of hand was MUCH better than Pollard's.

Drop Manie and play Pollard, don't be djas. Manie must start.

More importantly in this game Deon Fourie impressed at hooker, like riding a bike, he's still got it and will definitely have to be our backup hooker going forward. Van Staden's lineout throws were bad. Deon had a good game, MotM in my opinion (don't actually know who got it?).

Lastly, Mapimpi out of RWC. Will they replace him with a wing or bring in a hooker like Dweba? Dweba more physical than Deon, however Deon's lineout throws are better and his fetching ability puts him above Dweba IMHO.

Jasper Wiese is not having a great tournament. I would honestly start Duane ahead of him and play Kwagga of the bench, but hey, that's just my opinion.

Over to you Naas...

I firmly believe Deon is the second best choice after Marx. He brings some of that "x-factor" we lack without Marx in the forward pack.

 

[goldfritter]

Mapimpi is out..

World Cup heartbreak for Mapimpi as facial fracture ends tournament, replacement not yet named | Sport

SA Rugby director of rugby Rassie Erasmus on Monday confirmed that Makazole Mapimpi's Rugby World Cup is over after sustaining a facial injury.

www.news24.com

Interesting part is last part of the article. Looks like boks will seriously consider flying back Marx etc if we reach final. Didn't know they could do that and thought if a player is replaced then they cannot return to the tournament.

Holy shit. That tackle literally broke Mapimpi's face. No wonder he looked so grey when he was coming off the field.

 

[Gravedancer]

World Rugby to KO Boks

 

[PJtheKILL3R]

if Ireland lose with a high enough PD (41-20) but still get 4 tries, we all end on 15 pts and Scotland's PD will be higher than ours.

If that happens then Ireland's PD will drop by 21, so that will put their PD at 101 then we and Scotland go to the QF.

 

[goldfritter]

If that happens then Ireland's PD will drop by 21, so that will put their PD at 101 then we and Scotland go to the QF.

Bruh there's an article, a video, and a flow chart earlier in this thread that explains the whole thing. It's been evident for a while now that I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about, rather consult the people who know what is going on.

See here:

Found this. Gives all possible outcomes. There is only one scenario where Boks go home. A few for Ireland, and many for Scotland.

Ireland will not risk any pool exit and are going to be playing this game for the win. I cannot see Scotland reaching the milestone needed to send us packing.

https://imgur.com/iJXI0Cb

 

[Adrenalin]

Lukanyo Am is back boys.