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I've stated this before, but I'll mention it again. Have a look at this terrible English:

Some clock great on low voltages, others behave like a pig, in our case we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten a pig.

That's taken from the Rampage V Extreme review, but wait, it looks familiar?

Some clock great on low voltages, others behave like a pig, in our case we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten a pig.
ASUS X99 TUF Sabertooth Review

Some clock great on low voltages, others behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten the pig.
ASUS X99 Deluxe

Some clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten the pig.
GIGABYTE X99 SOC Force

Some clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten the pig.
MSI X99S Gaming 9 AC

Some CPUs clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed ~1.40 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and yes, we have gotten the pig processor.
ASRock X99X Killer

Some clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.4 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and have gotten the pig.
GIGABYTE X99 UD4

Some CPUs clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.40 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and yes, we have gotten the pig processor.
ASRock X99 OC Formula

Some CPUs clock great on low voltages, other behave like a pig, in our case where we needed 1.375 Volts to reach 4.4 GHz and yes, we have gotten the pig.
MSI X99S XPower AC

Oh...

If you're going to be lazy and copy from one review to another, at least make sure the English is readable?

That's not all though, have a look at the "Overclocking - The Core i7-5960X on X99" page on each review you'll see the following opening and closing paragraphs:

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker.

The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a heftier 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker.

The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a heftier 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz
ASRock X99X Killer

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult then we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz with our processor. Yes, we have received a pretty bad CPU in terms of overclocking.

Above a quick look with a Prime95 stress test with all four cores active and stressed at almost ~4300 MHz. You'll need a rather reasonable cooler, eight-cores versus overclocking require a higher-voltage, and that creates more heat to deal with. Opposed to what CPU-Z is showing, in the end we had to increase processor voltage to 1.375 Volts to get 4.3 GHz on the processor stable.
GIGABYTE X99 UD4

With so much ridiculous horsepower in the system we could not resist trying out overclocking. We're keeping it relatively simple. We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker.

The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a heftier 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4400 MHz which requires 1.40 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is quite a bit of voltage. So the ~1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption increase (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw.
ASRock X99 OC Formula

With so much ridiculous horsepower in the system we could not resist trying out overclocking. We're keeping it relatively simple. We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker.

The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4400 MHz which requires 1.375 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is quite a bit of voltage. So the ~1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw."]In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4400 MHz which requires 1.375 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is quite a bit of voltage. So the ~1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw.
MSI X99S XPower AC

With so much ridiculous horsepower in the system we could not resist trying out overclocking. We're keeping it relatively simple. We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4500 MHz which requires 1.425 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is a LOT of voltage. So the 1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumptiopn for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw.
MSI X99S Gaming 9 AC

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult then we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

Yes, we have received a pretty bad CPU in terms of overclocking.

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4500 MHz which requires 1.425 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is a LOT of voltage. So the 1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw.
GIGABYTE X99 SOC Force

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Keep in mind that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz.

Yes, we have received a pretty bad CPU in terms of overclocking.

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4500 MHz which requires ~1.425 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is a LOT of voltage. So the 1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket.
ASUS Rampage V Extreme

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Keep in mind that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz. Yes, we have received a pretty bad CPU in terms of overclocking.

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4400 MHz which requires 1.400~1.425 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is a LOT of voltage. So the 1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket.
ASUS X99 TUF Sabertooth

We need to take a couple of steps if we want to overclock. Invest in good hardware by the way, the cheaper motherboards often are not well tuned for enthusiast overclocking. Also get yourself a good power supply and proper processor cooling. Overclocking with Haswell-E was a little more difficult than we expected. Your voltage should sit at roughly 1.3 to 1.4 Volts with an AIO water-cooling, dual rad preferred. Mind you that overclocking 8-cores is a tough job, and our processor sample certainly is not a very good overclocker. The 5960X has a base clock of 3.0 GHz. At 1.3 Volts we end up at roughly 4.0~4.2 GHz. We need a hefty 1.375 ~ 1.425 Volts range to reach 4.4 / 4.5 GHz

Yes, we have received a pretty bad CPU in terms of overclocking.

In the chart above you can see what will happen to power consumption. The 'Load Overclocked' was at ~4500 MHz which requires 1.425 Volts on the eight CPU cores. That is a LOT of voltage. So the 1000 MHz overclock made our power consumption double (under load). Let me clearly note here that this is the power consumption for the PC measured at the wall socket power draw.
ASUS X99 Deluxe

Wanna play a game and see how many other copy/pastes happened between those reviews? :)

The funniest thing is there are subtle changes to make it not appear to be a copy/paste at first, but there's no doubting it once you compare them all side-by-side.
 
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I've stated this before, but I'll mention it again. Have a look at this terrible English:



That's taken from the Rampage V Extreme review, but wait, it looks familiar?


ASUS X99 TUF Sabertooth Review


ASUS X99 Deluxe


GIGABYTE X99 SOC Force


MSI X99S Gaming 9 AC


ASRock X99X Killer


GIGABYTE X99 UD4


ASRock X99 OC Formula


MSI X99S XPower AC

Oh...

If you're going to be lazy and copy from one review to another, at least make sure the English is readable?

That's not all though, have a look at the "Overclocking - The Core i7-5960X on X99" page on each review you'll see the following opening and closing paragraphs:




ASRock X99X Killer




GIGABYTE X99 UD4




ASRock X99 OC Formula




MSI X99S XPower AC




MSI X99S Gaming 9 AC




GIGABYTE X99 SOC Force




ASUS Rampage V Extreme




ASUS X99 TUF Sabertooth




ASUS X99 Deluxe

Wanna play a game and see how many other copy/pastes happened between those reviews? :)

The funniest thing is there are subtle changes to make it not appear to be a copy/paste at first, but there's no doubting it once you compare them all side-by-side.
Oj0..... I really laughed so hard now.... thanks for the little comedy beforee bed time... ha ha ha
 
Oj0..... I really laughed so hard now.... thanks for the little comedy beforee bed time... ha ha ha

I'm glad you enjoyed it :D I've just finished packing, I leave for Lanseria tomorrow. We need to have another get together when I get back.
 
It should be immediately obvious to many people that that site is dodgy from Hilberts bad English and how copy-pasted basically everything is. OjO summarised it nicely but it becomes very transparent when using the site to compare similar products, which I stopped doing a while back when whole paragraphs just kept on coming back with the same stilted and jarring writing style.

Good job to you guys on exposing the fakery and highlighting the other problems with this sub-par reviewer with more fame than he deserves.
 
Only spotted this thread now.

Thanks [MENTION=275]Oj0[/MENTION] and [MENTION=64]ShockG[/MENTION]

Eye opener when you see it laid out like that. Sad Panda that Guru3d does that, I really liked the layout of the reviews, and the amount of cards in the benchmarks.

So who is the most trusted hardware reviewers at the moment? [MENTION=64]ShockG[/MENTION] maybe start your own site :)
 

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