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Hey guys.

I've read more than once before that a psu loses efficiency after a while. How long does it take for a psu to start getting 'old'? Pretty soon I'm gonna be in the market for a 800w psu, and since they can be quite pricey I might consider buying a used one.

Thanks!
 
A PSU should maintain the efficiency it states on the box for at least the duration of the warranty, so there's a good start.
My rule of thumb is not buying any PSU that starts off with anything less than a 5yr warranty (speaks to crud components) and generally sticking to those that are less than half way through their warranty.
 
As with everything ... yes ! If she's under 18 years then yes[emoji14]hahaha

But PSUs lose their efficiency over time ... someone with more knowledge will let you know :)

Using my phone, excuse my spelling 😊
 
Two questions...

What are your system specs, why do you want a 700W you got 3x 980's ?

also the general rule of thumb I use is I keep the same PSU for a systems life span. When I Upgrade MB/CPU I will upgrade the psu with them. Its unfortunately the one part I do not mess around with.
 
Two questions...

What are your system specs, why do you want a 700W you got 3x 980's ?

also the general rule of thumb I use is I keep the same PSU for a systems life span. When I Upgrade MB/CPU I will upgrade the psu with them. Its unfortunately the one part I do not mess around with.

Not 3 X 980s but I may soon have 2 X 280s for which I will need a bigger psu. From what I see online 800w seems like the minimum.
 
Not 3 X 980s but I may soon have 2 X 280s for which I will need a bigger psu. From what I see online 800w seems like the minimum.

I wouldn't say minimum, but it's a good choice. You could probably get away with a good 650W unit but it would be running at close to 100% if your CPU and both GPUs are at full load.
An 800W psu would handle that just fine and would be at around 50~70% load during normal gaming which is ideal. You would even have a little overclocking headroom.
 
So why does the PSU brand seem to make such a big difference with some Carbies? Is it just preference for "cool" brands or is it other variables like longevity, noise, performance, warranty period, design, colour options etc. ?
 
Hey guys.

I've read more than once before that a psu loses efficiency after a while. How long does it take for a psu to start getting 'old'? Pretty soon I'm gonna be in the market for a 800w psu, and since they can be quite pricey I might consider buying a used one.

Thanks!

electricity is heat ,power supply is rated at 80% for the following reason it will give at least 80% of the number standing on the box so if it was a 1000w it will atleast give 800w the other 20% is heat ,the nasty cheapie one fong tong only actually give 50% so a 400w will give only 200w power and make 50% heat .

Corsair on the other hand not talking about the cheap one that i have :),the more expensive ones you can actually draw more power from that is rated ,certain power supply can`t even give their labeled power ,and then the ambient temp comes into play.

800w is not 800w is only marketed by the test the company itself has done.

expensive ones can draw more power then rated and is tested at normal temps for example corsair tx 650 is tested at 50c and can run 100 000 hours ,a 800w huntkey is at 25c also for 100 000 hours ,if heat goes up the effiency goes down .

so huntkey drawing 800w will let it blow at 50c at full load ...........tx 650w will actually draw more power so will actually still work when drawing 800w for a short amount of time


mostly if you need 700w you get a 800 for headroom ,power supply works less ,meaning more effecient ,


With every year the effiency goes down yes but depends on the parts inside like the caps they use ,if its japanese and a certian cap used in specific psu it will lasts and age less then cheaper caps ,so its not the price of power supply but certain models in each name brand .

thermaltake never had problems ,corsair never had problems .......gigabyte huntkey fong tong never in my life again

driving a car that is rated for 240km/h and refs is 8000 ........will you drive 250km/h and at 9000 refs all day ?
 
now usually efficiency loses more how more heat is produced ,so if you overclock the crap out of everything it builds up heat heating up cables more dropping the efficiency aswell ,if everything runs cool ,it will last longer ,driving a car without oil with one that has half oil ,and one that is check that stays full ......same principal .
if it states it needs 50a on the 12v rail and you only have 20a but its a million watt psu then it can`t deliver where is needed ,that is what that little diagram with lots of wattages and numbers is aswell

12v + rail is your graphics card and processor power,i saw alot of power supplies that is 30a or 18a x2 but its a 1000w freakin power supply .........
going sli or crossfire you need for instance 50a 18ax2 =36 you short on the 12v rail meaning power supply works overtime

so 800w is not 800w if it has 12v+1 12v+2 12v+3 and all is 20amp per 12v then it gives 60 meaning 10 more then you you need

here is a good example ,if your tank can take 1000litre of gas .....you only need 800litre .....because you calculated 800w will get you exactly a empty tank
at the landing zone won`t anyone rather full it up atleast to 900litre to be save ?
 
but and here is the but ,nvidia and amd is nice they actually give a amount of power because they know some people are cheap ,so they calculated between dirt cheap power supplies and expensive ones ,when they say 400w they mean 400w on a normal brand like a huntkey,procase and such not fong tong ,fong tong you going to need a 500w ............or a thermaltake ,corsair,xfx 300w

so 800w will be normal power supply or expensive 650w like corsair tx 650 and newer models in that price range for example .
 
now usually efficiency loses more how more heat is produced ,so if you overclock the crap out of everything it builds up heat heating up cables more dropping the efficiency aswell ,if everything runs cool ,it will last longer ,driving a car without oil with one that has half oil ,and one that is check that stays full ......same principal .
if it states it needs 50a on the 12v rail and you only have 20a but its a million watt psu then it can`t deliver where is needed ,that is what that little diagram with lots of wattages and numbers is aswell

12v + rail is your graphics card and processor power,i saw alot of power supplies that is 30a or 18a x2 but its a 1000w freakin power supply .........
going sli or crossfire you need for instance 50a 18ax2 =36 you short on the 12v rail meaning power supply works overtime

so 800w is not 800w if it has 12v+1 12v+2 12v+3 and all is 20amp per 12v then it gives 60 meaning 10 more then you you need

here is a good example ,if your tank can take 1000litre of gas .....you only need 800litre .....because you calculated 800w will get you exactly a empty tank
at the landing zone won`t anyone rather full it up atleast to 900litre to be save ?

multi rails dont work like that, correct me if im wrong..
for example look at antec hcp 1200..
http://www.antec.com/pdf/manuals/HCP-1200%20Manual_EN.pdf Page3, Table 1
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCP-1200/2.html
8x 12v rails at 30A each = 240A no freakign way..
thats rated 1188w on the 12v rails.. = 99A total on all 8 rails..

single vs multi rail:
Single Rail vs. Multi Rail *Explained*
Antec PSU

my personal prefrence is single rail..
and yes temprature rating & efficiency play huge parts..
 
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multi rails dont work like that, correct me if im wrong..
for example look at antec hcp 1200..
http://www.antec.com/pdf/manuals/HCP-1200%20Manual_EN.pdf Page3, Table 1
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Antec/HCP-1200/2.html
8x 12v rails at 30A each = 240A no freakign way..
thats rated 1188w on the 12v rails.. = 99A total on all 8 rails..

single vs multi rail:
Single Rail vs. Multi Rail *Explained*
Antec PSU

my personal prefrence is single rail..
and yes temprature rating & efficiency play huge parts..

That table of rail outputs is a bit misleading. This tells the full story:

4068_02_antec_hcp_1200_watt_power_supply_review.jpg


While each rail is capable of delivering a maximum of 30A, the 12v secondary is limited to 99A total.

I've always preferred single rail PSUs. At least you know you're getting all the available wattage no matter which cable you plug into what. I can appreciate multi-rail setups though. If I was more serious about overclocking I'd probably be running a multi-rail.
 

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