New CPU (7800X3D) coming this weekend - any tips or advice from fellow AMD X3D users?

[Roobir]

Hi fellow carbonites,

I found a place that do PC part trade-in's and arranged to give up my existing CPU/mobo/RAM in exchange for some parts to build a 7800X3D rig. The parts on the way are AMD 7800X3D, Asus ROG X670E-E, and 32GB Corsair DDR5 6000 CL30 kit.

Although slightly rushed, I decided on these items and only then found articles about the X3D deaths due to SOC voltages, some related to enabling AMD Expo and a ton with Asus motherboards. :-(

Since this is my first AMD build since FX-850 days, are there any community recommendations what are things to do when I build it over the weekend?

A few specific queries are the following:
- Windows 11 vs Windows 10, should I install Windows 10 or 11, or consider the Chris Titus debloat versions of Win10/11?
- Any Windows or power setting tweaks to get best performance out AMD CPU?
- Should BIOS be upgraded ASAP after installation?
- Any further issues with AMD Expo or is all safe to use now?
- Any specific tool to use and monitor if the CPU/mobo are operating safely to not burn it?

If anyone has already covered these topics, please link me in the right direction and apologies for bringing same queries up.

Have a good Thursday,
/roob

 

[Areola Grande]

Hi fellow carbonites,

I found a place that do PC part trade-in's and arranged to give up my existing CPU/mobo/RAM in exchange for some parts to build a 7800X3D rig. The parts on the way are AMD 7800X3D, Asus ROG X670E-E, and 32GB Corsair DDR5 6000 CL30 kit.

Although slightly rushed, I decided on these items and only then found articles about the X3D deaths due to SOC voltages, some related to enabling AMD Expo and a ton with Asus motherboards. :-(

Since this is my first AMD build since FX-850 days, are there any community recommendations what are things to do when I build it over the weekend?

A few specific queries are the following:
- Windows 11 vs Windows 10, should I install Windows 10 or 11, or consider the Chris Titus debloat versions of Win10/11?
- Any Windows or power setting tweaks to get best performance out AMD CPU?
- Should BIOS be upgraded ASAP after installation?
- Any further issues with AMD Expo or is all safe to use now?
- Any specific tool to use and monitor if the CPU/mobo are operating safely to not burn it?

If anyone has already covered these topics, please link me in the right direction and apologies for bringing same queries up.

Have a good Thursday,
/roob

Been running one of these for a while, though on a Gigabyte board.

1. Put CPU in socket.
2. Build rest of PC.
3. Switch on.
4. Update BIOS to latest version - should fix any weird voltage/EXPO issues.
5. Enable EXPO.
6. Play games and never worry about it again.

I'd recommend Windows 11 - newer, Windows 10 is old now and on it's way out. No tangible difference in my experience at all, besides the slight layout change.

 

[goldfritter]

As for which software to use, HWINFO is the go-to. You can combine it with RTSS (comes bundled with Afterburner) to get an in-game overlay of temps if you like.

 

[FrikkieDieSoldaat]

With the success of the X3D CPU's, I reckon they will be around for a long time, I am not sure when AMD launches the 8000 series, but it might be worth the wait for 8000X3D?

 

[Areola Grande]

With the success of the X3D CPU's, I reckon they will be around for a long time, I am not sure when AMD launches the 8000 series, but it might be worth the wait for 8000X3D?

Waiting for the next big thing is a trap we all fall into from time to time.

Buy now, upgrade later. You will always be waiting for the next one.

 

[StangV2_0]

And don't forget to remove the plastic film on your CPU cooler before installation.

This ^^

 

[Areola Grande]

This ^^

Hey wena!

 

[ApocalypesNinja]

Hi fellow carbonites,

I found a place that do PC part trade-in's and arranged to give up my existing CPU/mobo/RAM in exchange for some parts to build a 7800X3D rig. The parts on the way are AMD 7800X3D, Asus ROG X670E-E, and 32GB Corsair DDR5 6000 CL30 kit.

Although slightly rushed, I decided on these items and only then found articles about the X3D deaths due to SOC voltages, some related to enabling AMD Expo and a ton with Asus motherboards. :-(

Since this is my first AMD build since FX-850 days, are there any community recommendations what are things to do when I build it over the weekend?

A few specific queries are the following:
- Windows 11 vs Windows 10, should I install Windows 10 or 11, or consider the Chris Titus debloat versions of Win10/11?
- Any Windows or power setting tweaks to get best performance out AMD CPU?
- Should BIOS be upgraded ASAP after installation?
- Any further issues with AMD Expo or is all safe to use now?
- Any specific tool to use and monitor if the CPU/mobo are operating safely to not burn it?

If anyone has already covered these topics, please link me in the right direction and apologies for bringing same queries up.

Have a good Thursday,
/roob

Dont manual overclock, leave it normal

 

[ApocalypesNinja]

Been running one of these for a while, though on a Gigabyte board.

1. Put CPU in socket.
2. Build rest of PC.
3. Switch on.
4. Update BIOS to latest version - should fix any weird voltage/EXPO issues.
5. Enable EXPO.
6. Play games and never worry about it again.

I'd recommend Windows 11 - newer, Windows 10 is old now and on it's way out. No tangible difference in my experience at all, besides the slight layout change.

What he said

 

[Areola Grande]

@Roobir - this is how it was for me after first putting the PC together.

Okay after many concurrent installs, some benchmarks, some gaming, I have some initial results. This is with no tuning of the fan curves, voltages or anything.

Max temp I’ve seen is 87, though under gaming it was in the 70s. I’m GPU limited at this point, but gaming isn’t too taxing on the CPU now, largely because it’s a fucking beast with a massive cock.

I actually want to take the cooler off and double check if I took the plastic sticker off the bottom 😂 I think it may still be there 😂

Benchmark results vary - Heaven saw a 12% increase in average FPS with a 31% increase in max.

Valley saw a 6% increase average, 9% increase max with 12% better lows.

Superposition saw a 1% increase average, same max, 2% lows. Basically just variance. But that’s also because it’s GPU limited.

In terms of gaming, I get slightly higher FPS in Tarkov now with DLSS off, than I did previously with DLSS on. 100-125 FPS on lighthouse at 1440p. So a massive uplift, very very happy. Also got it booting quickly which I was surprised about, maybe 8s to desktop. Gamers Nexus got 28 as their best with the same board so I’m not sure what that’s about.

Board arrived 4 BIOS versions out of date and wouldn’t post at XMP. After updates it runs perfectly. No crashes or anything else.

But then this happened

Guys, please can we be professional and meticulous with our builds?

This sort of nonsense is not acceptable.

https://imgur.com/a/elg5TEW

Using the CPU-Z all-core stress test it now gets to ~78'C and maintains a 4.9GHz all-core boost. Pretty decent I'd say.

And then

So I'm running it under an AK620. Just did back to back Cyberpunk benchmarks and it hit 74. I don't have a very aggressive fan curve on any of my fans though and it isn't undervolted, so you could definitely do better than that.

 

[Switch]

With the success of the X3D CPU's, I reckon they will be around for a long time, I am not sure when AMD launches the 8000 series, but it might be worth the wait for 8000X3D?

I think unfortunately you missed the longevity boat, every few generations we get a pc component that maintains relevance and outlives its generations average lifespan by a large margin, like the 2500k or 1080ti (or the am4 socket), the newest addition to that list is probably the 5800x3d.

Unless the 8000x3d is imminently launching on the existing socket, just do as bunny says and buy the 7800x3d which is probably going to last a bit longer than the 5800x3d.

 

[goldfritter]

Unless the 8000x3d is imminently launching on the existing socket, just do as bunny says and buy the 7800x3d which is probably going to last a bit longer than the 5800x3d.

It will be on AM5, but no release date has been confirmed other than it'll be some time in 2024. Rumours suggest "first half" of 2024 which could mean anything from 1 Jan to 30 Jun - if the rumours are accurate.

I wouldn't wait.

 

[Roobir]

@Roobir - this is how it was for me after first putting the PC together.



But then this happened


And then

I'm sure I won't leave the sticker on - re-using my existing Corsaid H150i capellix which I changed the paste to MasterGel 11W/mK and i'm 99.99% sure the sticker isn't there anymore (or wasn't there from the beginning).

Either way, good to know the CPU can even survive without /effective/ cooling!

Will be dismantling my old 11900K tonight and take it through the exchange PC shop for the deal.

 

[Roobir]

On a different note, there is this tingle in the air when a new build is looming.

Anyone else the same?

 

[Areola Grande]

On a different note, there is this tingle in the air when a new build is looming.

Anyone else the same?

Every time. Right in the gooch.

 

[Aokiji]

got the 5800x3d been loving it!!

 

[Roobir]

got the 5800x3d been loving it!!

For a while i thought about building 5800X3D, as there have been some mega sales this side and was better in gaming than the 11900K in reviews. But stuck it out with existing platform. Since getting in touch with this company that do trade-in's; it all changed!

Looking at 1440p ratings across a few games, it looks like a decent performance uplift:

Intel Core i7-14700K Review - Catching the 13900K

Intel Core i7-14700K is the only processor released today with an upgraded core configuration. Thanks to an additional four E-Cores, more cache and a 200 MHz frequency bump, the 14700K reaches performance quite close to the 13900K, at much better pricing.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Aokiji]

was a huge uplift for me as well from 6700k to this xD

 

[Mk1MiLAN]

open box
place cpu in socket
turn on pc
play...

literally the easiest cpu i have ever had... the performance is nuts out the box no need to oc or anything

 

[Areola Grande]

For a while i thought about building 5800X3D, as there have been some mega sales this side and was better in gaming than the 11900K in reviews. But stuck it out with existing platform. Since getting in touch with this company that do trade-in's; it all changed!

Looking at 1440p ratings across a few games, it looks like a decent performance uplift:

Intel Core i7-14700K Review - Catching the 13900K

Intel Core i7-14700K is the only processor released today with an upgraded core configuration. Thanks to an additional four E-Cores, more cache and a 200 MHz frequency bump, the 14700K reaches performance quite close to the 13900K, at much better pricing.

www.techpowerup.com

No.

7800X3D.

 

[Areola Grande]

@Roobir: Upgrade?

Everyone: 7800X3D

@Roobir: 14700K it is!

 

[StangV2_0]

On a different note, there is this tingle in the air when a new build is looming.

Anyone else the same?

Every time is like the first time!!!

 

[Roobir]

@Roobir: Upgrade?

Everyone: 7800X3D

@Roobir: 14700K it is!

No, I meant look at the 14700K review for the latest collection of CPU performance results across various games at 1440p.

7800X3D at 104% vs my existing 11900K at 73%!

 

[Roobir]

PS: upgrade successful this morning!

 

[Areola Grande]

PS: upgrade successful this morning!

Pics dammit!

How's she running?

 

[D3TTOL]

Been running one of these for a while, though on a Gigabyte board.

1. Put CPU in socket.
2. Build rest of PC.
3. Switch on.
4. Update BIOS to latest version - should fix any weird voltage/EXPO issues.
5. Enable EXPO.
6. Play games and never worry about it again.

I'd recommend Windows 11 - newer, Windows 10 is old now and on it's way out. No tangible difference in my experience at all, besides the slight layout change.

Pretty much what this douc.... guy said.
Got 7800X3D, Updated Bios and not worry. CPU has never gotten to 70 degrees for me either.

 

[D3TTOL]

So did dood get 7800X3D or intel?

 

[Roobir]

got the 7800X3D!

https://imgur.com/HGMReXB

 

[Areola Grande]

got the 7800X3D!

https://imgur.com/HGMReXB

Lovely stuff man, great choice. Hope she treats you well.

Any noticeable differences after the upgrade?

 

[Roobir]

Lovely stuff man, great choice. Hope she treats you well.

Any noticeable differences after the upgrade?

I fired up WoW and some slick visual smooth improvements in the main city.

So far been a great experience. Board updated easily in bios, AMD expo works effortlessly, and drives are feeling much snappier than before.

Did an inter-drive copy of WoW and saw up to 3.x GB/s transfer of 92GB. Previous board had a single gen4 slot and rest gen3 slots. So nice to have both 980pro’s on gen4 slots.

I tried to like Win11, but small things are annoying. Did Christitus perfect win11 install and still some annoying elements (like start bar recent files, notification bar manual unhiding icons, and file explorer layout). Will reinstall Win10 and give it a bash with the 7800X3D.

I noticed in the AMD performance tuning section of GPU that the CPU is there too. Can set it to default or overclocked. (I normally add my tweaks to 6900xt for fast memory, slight undervolt with little overclock and custom fan curve). Anyone fiddle with “overclock” setting for 7800X3D, or a waste? Saw around 5.05GHz boost highs and highest temp so far is 72c.

How are your frequencies and temps with the CPU?