Need help with graphics

[dxcza]

Hi!

So I recently built a PC from bits and pieces, but FPS wasn't too great in games. I put it down to an old GPU (RX580). However, today I bought a 5600XT from a fellow carbie, came home all excited only to find the FPS in games is still the exact same. Heaven Benchmark showed a 70% odd increase over tests run with the R5X580 so I'm inclined to believe the GPU is fine, but I'm a little stumped as to why the games all run at the exact same FPS.

Rig:

MSI X570-A Pro (2 months old)
Ryzen 5 3400G (3-4 years old)
32Gb Corsair Vengeance (4x8Gb capped to 2800mhz (CPU limitation)) (2 months old)
Gigabyte Gaming 5600XT 6G (2+ years old)
500Gb Kingston NVMe (2 Months old)

FPS:

Dota 2 peaks at 80, averages at around 50, max graphics @ 1080. - On this one at the time of my screenshot, CPU usage is <10%, GPU <40%, VRAM <30% but only 60odd fps. Doesn't make sense.
PUBG peaks at around 70, average between 45-60, 1080 with settings all over the place. Draw distance/foiliage/shadows very low and the rest a mix of medium and high.

Latest drivers are installed for everything, the card, the chipset, BIOS, the lot.

Any ideas?

TIA

 

[BetaTester552]

Could you do us a Timespy run with your new GPU vs your old GPU? I know its effort, but Timespy gives a better theoretical expectation vs Heaven. If you don't have Timespy, and if I were to take a shot in the dark, I would say either the settings aren't taxing enough, the CPU is holding you back, or the resolution causes the things not to go to their rated speeds.

 

[solz]

Put settings to max and see what the card does. If fsp remains the same might be a cpu issue.

What windows you running just for intrest sake. I know some version of 11 was bad for amd gaming.

 

[Nekuro]

Have you checked that V-Sync is off? >.>

 

[dxcza]

Could you do us a Timespy run with your new GPU vs your old GPU? I know its effort, but Timespy gives a better theoretical expectation vs Heaven. If you don't have Timespy, and if I were to take a shot in the dark, I would say either the settings aren't taxing enough, the CPU is holding you back, or the resolution causes the things not to go to their rated speeds.

Don't have this, unfortunately.

Put settings to max and see what the card does. If fsp remains the same might be a cpu issue.

What windows you running just for intrest sake. I know some version of 11 was bad for amd gaming.

Dota settings are already at MAX. I tried PUBG on Ultra everything earlier and framerates were pretty much the same, moved some sliders down with little-to-no effect.

Running a fully updated Windows 11.

 

[dxcza]

Have you checked that V-Sync is off? >.>

Yes 🥲

 

[BetaTester552]

Have you checked that V-Sync is off? >.>

This and Freesync is off, might be a suspect.

DOTA isn't known for being intensive, but it should yield you more frames than what you mention. Ill go do some googling and come back to you in a bit.

 

[Nekuro]

have you removed the nvidia drivers completely and installed the newest radeon drivers?
Can you share an image of device manager?

 

[BetaTester552]

Previous drivers were AMD aswell, so shouldn't be really that different.

Is your CPU running stock or do you have an OC on it?

 

[dxcza]

have you removed the nvidia drivers completely and installed the newest radeon drivers?
Can you share an image of device manager?

I had an AMD card before (Gigabyte RX580). But I did uninstall everything before re-installing AMD Adrenalin.

I enabled Vulkan (over D11) in Dota which seems to have brought FPS up to about 90 but still nowhere near what I had running a Ryzen 5 1600 with a 1070 some years ago.

https://imgur.com/a/ZXH4oDU

 

[BetaTester552]

580 vs 5600 in dota and pubg

^ Link shows Dota remaining the same while Pubg has a decent uplift. My guess would be certain games not fully utilising the assets, or the CPU being conservative with its clocks and dragging the games down as a result.

Go to your power options in Windows and check if its either Ryzen Balanced, Balanced or High Performance, as the Power Saver settings can cause the CPU to downclock more than necessary

 

[dxcza]

Previous drivers were AMD aswell, so shouldn't be really that different.

Is your CPU running stock or do you have an OC on it?

Stock CPU with a massive new Deepcool tower cooler.

 

[dxcza]

580 vs 5600 in dota and pubg

^ Link shows Dota remaining the same while Pubg has a decent uplift. My guess would be certain games not fully utilising the assets, or the CPU being conservative with its clocks and dragging the games down as a result.

Go to your power options in Windows and check if its either Ryzen Balanced, Balanced or High Performance, as the Power Saver settings can cause the CPU to downclock more than necessary

That's a neat link! What's the site called. Thanks for that.

Power setting was set to Balanced, I've upped it to High Performance now

 

[BetaTester552]

https://pc-builds.com/fps-calculator/

I'm not sure how trustworthy it is, but since you don't have timespy (steam sale hopefully 👀), it's the best frame of reference I have.

 

[dxcza]

https://pc-builds.com/fps-calculator/

I'm not sure how trustworthy it is, but since you don't have timespy (steam sale hopefully 👀), it's the best frame of reference I have.

Well it's quite accurate. I'll play around but I'm starting to think I didn't need a new graphics card, perhaps a beefier CPU. The 3400G isn't exactly amazing with it's 2MB of L3 Cache

 

[BetaTester552]

Well it's quite accurate. I'll play around but I'm starting to think I didn't need a new graphics card, perhaps a beefier CPU. The 3400G isn't exactly amazing with it's 2MB of L3 Cache

Might be time for that yeah, I remember getting the 1080ti with my R5 1600, and while it worked, the benefits really showed when I upgraded my CPU. 5600's can be had for not alot on here these days, and is really a worthwhile upgrade for your rig!

 

[dxcza]

I am also leaning towards 5600. Thanks for the help! I'll let you know how it goes after a CPU upgrade.