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Extremely dishonest seller - Escanor Aesthetics

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Deal Thread URL: https://carbonite.co.za/index.php?threads/hp-probook-430-g6-core-i5-8265u-13-3-x2.430249/
Seller:
@Escanor Aesthetics
Buyer: @Pocahontas
Description of Bad Deal:

I asked for photos of the laptops, only received photos of the one. (unaware at the time)
I asked to see the specs, and was shown only the specs of one of them. (unaware that the other is a lower spec)

Upon receiving the laptops, the one was really scratched and dented, and was obviously not the one in the photos. It also only had 4gb of ram as opposed to the other which had 16gb ram.

I also came to find at a later stage that the one had a 500GB HDD as opposed to a 500GB SSD. He first tried to lie his way out of it with messages like "Check your messages again.. One is a 256 ssd. And the other has a normal drive" which then later became "thats mistake" ; "thats a 500 normal hdd" ; "thats what I meant".

While the above laptops were still in transit, I had actually bought another laptop from him (https://carbonite.co.za/index.php?t...-inch-fhd-laptop-intel-core-i5-10210u.431916/).
When this laptop arrived, the screen was cracked (I've bought and shipped hundreds of laptops and not once did any of them get damaged in transit).
Seller had wrapped the laptop extremely poorly. The laptop had the charger resting on the lid, and was just wrapped in cardboard (zero support on the sides). When I brought this all to sellers attention, he said it could not have happened in transit - claiming that the"box" would show signs of damage if it were the case.
I guess the risk is on me, but I do feel that as a seller, you should at least be packaging the parcel properly. I have photos of the cardboard if anyone would like to see.

The laptop also didn't have the spec that he had claimed it to have (500GB HDD as opposed to 256GB M.2 SSD). He claimed to have forgotten to swap it out, yet when I asked him to send the SSD, he said he could only do it about a week later.

There was also another lie he tried to pass:
He had sold a ProBook to someone else on Carb, and when buyer received, complained about a mark on the screen. Seller contacted me, asking me to please buy it from him, due to this scratch that the buyer is not happy with. Also sent me a video in which the buyer is showing the scratch and complaining about it. At a later stage though, seller said to me the buyer did not return it due to scratch, but rather because he had tried to resell it but the laptop took too long to arrive so he lost his potential buyer.

I had tried to get refunded for the dented laptop, the laptop with cracked screen, tried everything but the best he was willing to do was refund R500 for the cracked screen, which I had no choice but to accept. (replacement is R1,650).

I have the full chat log if needed.

I am still battling to get the 256GB M.2 SSD and 500GB SSD from hm. It ended up in him sending GIF's of babies.
Whether the drives are being sent or not, I have no idea. All I am trying to accomplish here is to get the drives which I had paid for - please assist admin.
 
Why can't you pack two SSDs in a single box on one day due to load shedding? Where are all the machines you're selling coming from?
Good morning. I was away came back last weekend.upon testing the first drive it failed then loadsheding happened, couldn't test the second ssd until yesterday.. Had to improvise and buy one from someone and courier it so long.
 
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Why can't you pack two SSDs in a single box on one day due to load shedding? Where are all the machines you're selling coming from?
This are machines that i work with.
 
Aight, cool. So the Reseller warning you now have is suited.
 
Aight, cool. So the Reseller warning you now have is suited.
I then told him that I will courier the SSD's Saturday . (conclusion)

He kept on harassing me about opening a bad deal thread.
Swearing saying I'm a dick head..

We had an agreement that I will send both SSD's Saturday not Friday. Upon our agreement..

Friday he started threatening me calling me names.

I think he is angry because he got scammed 9k.
That's why his so grumpy.
 
Update from my side:
I have received a 256GB M.2 SSD. (still awaiting the 500GB SSD)

I forgot to mention that seller had sent 2x 4GB RAM sticks with the 3rd laptop, to somehow make up for the other laptop only having 4GB RAM (instead of 16GB).

He is now asking me to return one of the 4GB sticks, as well as the 500GB HDD.

I am reluctant from my side for numerous reasons:
- Seller lying about the reason for previous buyer wanting to return laptop
- Seller lying about spec of 2nd laptop
- Seller being extremely dodgy about 2nd laptop, claiming condition to be great and only sending photos of 1st laptop (laptops are identical models so I didn't realize that the photos were only of 1st laptop)
- Seller lying about having sent photos of both laptops
- Seller sending me 2x 4GB RAM still does not get me to 16GB.
- Seller packaging 3rd laptop in extremely poor packaging. causing screen to crack in transit (or before, at this point I can't be certain)
- Seller still denying the packaging having been poor, accusing me of cracking the screen.
- Seller claiming to have forgotten to install the 256GB SSD, yet was only able to send it a week later.
- Seller trying to lie his way out of 2nd laptop having a 500GB HDD and not a 500GB SSD
- Seller only refunding R500 for cracked screen, when a screen replacement is R1650.

The 500GB HDD and 4GB RAM still do not help me much, but it is at least something, and to have the audacity to ask me to send it back, in my opinion, is absurd.

@admin Thank you for the assistance so far, and please let me know if you would prefer I return the 4GB RAM and 500GB HDD to seller.
I must add though, I'd be extremely reluctant to do that, as this guy has messed me around badly, and continues to have a terrible attitude.

Then, regarding the poor responses @Escanor Aesthetics typed above:

I then told him that I will courier the SSD's Saturday . (conclusion)
"Conclusion" as he refers to it as, is his one-sided poor way of giving as little as possible.

He kept on harassing me about opening a bad deal thread.
Swearing saying I'm a dick head..
2022-06-27: Seller said he will send first SSD on Saturday - "Can courier the ssd next week Saturday"
2022-06-29: I notice the other laptop has incorrect Drive as well - "Just opened the one laptop.. and it isn’t 500gb ssd.. it’s a HDD."
2022-06-29: Seller replies: "Check your messages again.. One is 256 ssd. And the other has a normal drive"
Bit of back and forth, him saying the one is hdd not ssd, me saying LOOK AT THE MESSAGE YOU SENT, him still trying to get out of it with:
"That's a 500 normal hdd"
"That's mistake"
"One has ssd"
"One has a normal hdd"
"That's what I meant"
"I didn't specify on carbonite"
"About the drive"
Luckily I had the chat still, and could refer him back to where he specified what drives they have.

More pathetic back and forth, him saying the cracked screen wasn't his fault and that he sent photos of the scratched laptop, blatant lie.

Me: "I am owed a 256GB SSD and a 500GB SSD"
Him: "Fine😤"
Me: "So when can I be expecting them please"
Him: "Told you Saturday"
Me: "So on Saturday you’ll send a 500gb ssd and a 256gb ssd?" - Checking, since originally it was only the one drive that he said he would send.
Him: "Don't skip your message" - quoting his message of "Told you Saturday"
Me: "I am obviously confirming if it will be both SSD’s"
Him: Sends a GIF of a baby & "What do you want?"
Me: "
“Told you Saturday”
You told me you’ll send 256gb ssd on Saturday.
I am confirming if it’ll be both the 256gb and 500gb sent on Saturday.
It’s a perfectly valid question, so why be a dick ?"

Him: Sends another GIF of a baby
Me: "Are you sending both on Sat or not?"
him: "Are u gona be like that"
Me: "Oh I’m sorry am I sending you baby pics?"
Him: "So does that mean I dick"
Me: "Listen, are you sending both or not. That is all I am asking. Pointless to go over anything else"
Him: "Asking you a question here my friend"
Me: "What?"
Him: "Does it mean I'm dick"
Me: "Yes it does" , "Are you sending both SSD’s on Saturday or not?" , hour later: "Am I being ignored now ?"
Him: "For being a poes"

Sunday, 2022-07-03: I message saying "Hi, I’m assuming you aren’t going to be sending the SSD’s?" followed by "Now I have to go through the process of creating a bad deal thread etc"
I get a response of "You assume"

TLDR: I called seller a dick, for responding with GIFs of babies when I had asked a valid question. I'm sure anybody would've confirmed if both drives will be getting sent, if you were dealing with this specimen.
Friday he started threatening me calling me names.

As per my texts above, only "threat" was Sunday, after he hadn't said a word to confirm that he would be sending both SSD's, nor to say anything was sent.
Only "names" I called him was to say "It’s a perfectly valid question, so why be a dick ?"

@Escanor Aesthetics You don't see me sitting here crying about you calling me a p**s
 

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