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Anybody tried the checkers gaming monitor ?

Which one should I try? Should I enable Windows HDR and default screen settings?

This was the closest to a 'transferrable' SDR <-> HDR 'switching' profile I've made so far.

That is to say, one where the colours and brightness didn't get super funky in Division 2 and actually looked better in the end.


Note specifically that if you're using SDR, the values on the monitor are: B100 C80 R48 G40 B42
While if you're using HDR (2084) on it, the values are: R60 G54 B55

White point is pretty close to being on-point that way, while overall contrast is retained. I don't know how well it works in other games or HDR media as I don't know what other HDR-capable games I have right now.
 
This was the closest to a 'transferrable' SDR <-> HDR 'switching' profile I've made so far.

That is to say, one where the colours and brightness didn't get super funky in Division 2 and actually looked better in the end.


Note specifically that if you're using SDR, the values on the monitor are: B100 C80 R48 G40 B42
While if you're using HDR (2084) on it, the values are: R60 G54 B55

White point is pretty close to being on-point that way, while overall contrast is retained. I don't know how well it works in other games or HDR media as I don't know what other HDR-capable games I have right now.
I couldn't get the profile loaded. Tried right-click install and through Colour Management. Doesn't want to add the profile.
 
I couldn't get the profile loaded. Tried right-click install and through Colour Management. Doesn't want to add the profile.

Thanks, so it's not just me who isn't able to load these profiles... I'll do a 425-patch run tonight with nothing I hadn't always done in the past and see what happens. In the mean time, if you want to see what the profile looked like, load it in DisplayCal using the 'load settings' (folder icon) button next to the 'settings' dropdown under the 'displaycal3' logo, then click the far-right down-pointing arrow which says 'install settings'. On the dialog which comes up, while 'preview calibration' is ticked and assuming Windows hasn't overridden it, the profile should essentially be applied.

As an aside, I threw the supposed PPI of a 1920x1080 27" monitor into Potatoshoop's settings for display resolution and created this image:

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viewed at 100% to take the below photo to once-again check what the pickles are doing. My impression remains that per effective 'pixel' there appears to be a 3x3 'sub-pixel' grid, each sub-pixel consisting of 2x2 pixels, but with a strange horizontally-running separatation splitting the bottom 2x3 section from the top 1x3 section of a given 'pixel'.

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That off-set gap still has me wondering whether the resolution the monitor's displaying at is correct at the end of the day, whether there isn't inherent under/overscan at play.

In the EDID information, this is seen:
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I don't know what that 'means' just yet, but am going to try changing all the overscanned values to not overscanned for now to see what happens.

Edit: changed it, windows didn't crash, no change to the 'pixel layout'/over or underscan and the horizontal lines are still there. Same applies to 'use TV/PC information' for the Native Resolution.
 
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Just a quick one guys, i have the 27". Does it have speakers? Or is it just in the menu because it is a universal OSD. My speakers dont seem to work.
 
@bythecantloads I've been having the same problem, thought it was my display cable... It played perfectly, suddenly in game it loses signal and comes back.. Used hdmi.. Worked perfectly.
Solution : i turned off freesync on the screen.. Everything works perfectly... Not sure why.
If anyone else has a solution, let us know!
Ah shiznit, only saw this now. I think I might have tried this, let me re-test without free sync on and revert.
 
Ah shiznit, only saw this now. I think I might have tried this, let me re-test without free sync on and revert.
Nope. Free Sync has been switched off still the same problem.

Not the GPU as another screen works perfectly when both my Xceed have the "disconnecting/connecting" problem. These monitors work fine via HDMI. I have tried all three DP ports on my 1080, all give same problem. DVI to HDMI cable gives the same problem on both the Xceed monitors. This happens more often when refresh rate is set higher than 60hz, however still happens at 60hz. GPU drivers have been updated. Really don't want to, but will see if a fresh install of Windows might fix the problem.

So I am still leaning towards the DP cable being rubbish, I just don't want to go and spend R400+ for a DP cable from Incredible and then still having the same problem.
 
So I am still leaning towards the DP cable being rubbish, I just don't want to go and spend R400+ for a DP cable from Incredible and then still having the same problem.

I'm planning on eventually getting one of these: Lindy 3m Displayport 1.4 Cable - Anthracite

"UHD resolutions up to 8K 7680x4320@60Hz 4:2:2 8bit, including 4K 4096x2160@160Hz 4:4:4 8bit and HDCP are supported. DisplayPort 1.4 technology and DisplayPort compliance certification ensures compatibility with all DisplayPort enabled devices"

I believe someone on the thread said they're pretty sure the monitor doesn't have a 1.4 port, but even then, the cable being advertised as capable of 160Hz 4:4:4 at 4K means from a 'quality' perspective, the cable itself should at least no longer be a variable.
 
I'm planning on eventually getting one of these: Lindy 3m Displayport 1.4 Cable - Anthracite

"UHD resolutions up to 8K 7680x4320@60Hz 4:2:2 8bit, including 4K 4096x2160@160Hz 4:4:4 8bit and HDCP are supported. DisplayPort 1.4 technology and DisplayPort compliance certification ensures compatibility with all DisplayPort enabled devices"

I believe someone on the thread said they're pretty sure the monitor doesn't have a 1.4 port, but even then, the cable being advertised as capable of 160Hz 4:4:4 at 4K means from a 'quality' perspective, the cable itself should at least no longer be a variable.

Are you having the same problem as I am when screen is connected through DP?

Just beware of RARU, a lot people complaining about them lately. Lindy on the other hand is a brand that I have seen around, so it should be good.
 
Are you having the same problem as I am when screen is connected through DP?

Just beware of RARU, a lot people complaining about them lately. Lindy on the other hand is a brand that I have seen around, so it should be good.

I'm not using DP just yet, still on the included HDMI cable. The only issue I'm encountering so far is what seems like the backlight flickering at higher refresh rates, in The Division 2. I haven't tested other games to see whether the issue is replicated nor whether Freesync is involved or not, but I think it could as-easily be the game itself as I also experienced some flicker on my old monitor and have read of other people also encountering image flickering issues with that game...

Edit: Well, turning Freesync off on the monitor eliminates the flickering issue. HDMI Link Assurance has no influence on it when Freesync is enabled and using the included HDMI cable. Going to be testing running the monitor on a PC power supply next to see whether the available power has an impact.

Edit #2: External PSU has no effect on the flickering (previously tested to see whether it influences backlight level, it doesn't, so the supplied power brick outputs as much power as the monitor's able to use, it seems)

Interestingly though, the flickering issue has the following characteristics:

1. in Division 2 while there's the flickering issue my framerate is very unstable, sometimes going below 50fps and up to 105fps at most, GPU utilization hovers around 75% for w/e reason
2. simply moving my mouse cursor out of the game to my secondary monitor (such as when I'm in my inventory) not only makes the flickering go away (I don't actually click out of the game, so the game still has focus) but makes my FPS fly up to 95 average, doesn't easily dip below 85 and GPU utilization is 95%+
3. moving my mouse into the game again will instantly cause the flickering to come back and performance to drop as moving my mouse out of it again causes the flickering to go away and performance to go up instantly...
 
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At R2999 you cant go wrong. Yes, the colour is not as good as a dell, asus or any fully branded monitor, but for R2999, you're getting a 144hz panel, 27 inches and a pretty sleek look. It has 75mm vesa mounts and if you actually play around with some of the nvidia settings and adjust the colour, you're good to go.

For value, you simply cannot beat this. But only time will tell how well this lasts.

You have to compare apples to apples and this is a decent apple.

@Mikhailhathey and I bought this and I'll report back soon.

Give this a try gents.

Howsit folks,

After more than 6 weeks using the xceed monitor, I have had zero complaints or issues here. It has been performing xceptionally ( :ROFLMAO: ) well. Lol dad jokes.

Anyways, good performer, good price. 10/10 would recommend if you just getting into 144hz gaming or if you need a decent secondary to scroll through carbs while "working from home".

Have a good one okes - cheers.
 
Anyways, good performer, good price. 10/10 would recommend if you just getting into 144hz gaming or if you need a decent secondary to scroll through carbs while "working from home".
I wouldn't trust the opinion of anyone who says "anyways" :ROFLMAO:
 
I wouldn't trust the opinion of anyone who says "anyways" :ROFLMAO:

Ahahaha - Im a simple dude. I dont fiddle or try and overclock things especially at this price point. Buy it, set it up. Play with the colour settings, use a quality Display Port Cable and you're good to go.
 
So not wanting to go through the million post... How is the 24 inch overall? And anyone has decent settings for the colors? Not interested in the hdr part, just th 144hz. Thanks
 
I see on the Zaga group a member posted the following;

Hey everyone, So I saw the post this morning regarding feedback on the Xceed Byte 24 & 27 inch monitor they’re selling at a Checkers (on special for R1999 and R2999 respectively). I’m not sure if it was posted yesterday or today, but someone mentioned they ended up getting one and that it was 144hz with HDR (HDR is mentioned in the ad). People were requesting evidence but I’m not sure if the OP ever posted it or not and now I can’t find the post anymore. I decided to go have a look. First thing I did was ask the salesperson in the tech section whether they had anymore info on the monitor ... they didn’t. Then I double-checked whether it would be possible to return the monitor if it didn’t have the features mentioned of the ad or if I wasn’t satisfied, and I was told it was possible. So I bit bullet and got one of the 27 inch models to try out. For my initial tests, I left the monitor in the sleeve (I wanted it as pristine as possible in case I decide to return it). I haven’t even mounted it on the included stand yet, it’s literally propped up on my desk with its power supply behind it. I’ve even used the HDMI cable and power cable from my Dell monitor. Eventually I took the sleeve off to see the HDR properly in games. Low and behold, the OP of the other post was right. The monitor is capable of 144hz, HDR and (supposedly) Freesync. Take into account I’m coming from a Dell SE2717H (IPS FHD panel, 75hz, Freesync - which I couldn’t use because I have an Nvidia card and to use Freesync with Nvidia you need a display port, which the Dell doesn’t have). Let me expand: 144hz - I can get my desktop refresh rate to 144hz and I can set my games to 144fps. I’m used to 75hz, but it feels smoother to me. My FPS counter in Destiny 2 and HotS says I’m getting 144fps (and shows dips when there are dips). HDR - Windows detects the monitor as having HDR capabilities. You can enable it and after playing around with the settings I could get it working in Windows and displaying in games (I tested Division 2, AC Origins and Destiny 2). Yes, the HDR isn’t great but it’s there and Destiny 2 actually looked ok with it on). It’s only an 8-bit panel, and I would guess the brightness to be around the 250-300 nit range (true HDR requires 1000 nits and a 10-bit panel). Most entry level TVs with HDR, even the entry level Samsung TVs, have the same specs (check TV reviews on rtings.com) Also, remember that HDR on Windows 10 is still a mess, though it has gotten better. I may test my PS4 Pro on it just to see how things look as I’ve tested other HDR monitors and TVs on my PC and they never look great with HDR enabled, but the minute I tested a console the panel looked great. Freesync - the option is there in the settings, but the monitor doesn’t come with a display port cable and I have an Nvidia card, so I’m unable to test the Freesync support until I get a display port cable (if I end up keeping it ... a bit more on that later). Panel - the panel seems decent, nothing spectacular. I can’t determine who the manufacturer of the panel is but if I had to hazard a guess I’d say the panel type is VA. It’s a bit hard to tell. The panel is matte so the colours are a bit muted, but it’s not as colourful as my a Dell IPS which also has a matte coating. Then again, I haven’t played with the colour settings, so this could possibly change. What throws me is that the viewing angles are extremely good, which is a known weakness of TN and VA panels. However, I can’t believe it can have a 144hz IPS panel at this price, but I may be wrong. 🤷🏻‍♂️ In terms of stuck or dead pixels, my panel doesn’t have a single one. Other stuff - very creative category I know. In terms of quality, the monitor actually feels pretty premium. It’s very solidly built and the bezel and frame is made of metal, while the back is plastic. The panel is very slim, with a “butt” on the back on the bottom that houses all the connectors and electronics, similar to higher end LED TVs and OLED TVs that I’ve seen. It has an HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2 port, and an audio out 3.5mm jack (no built-in speakers). The only complaint I have is that the Xceed logo X on the front is slightly crooked, but that could be my unit. The stand and mounting arm also seem to be made of metal, with minor swivel adjustment functionality. I’m attaching a few photos I took of Destiny 2 and the FPS counter. I’ve also included photos of the Windows 10 monitor settings (sorry about the these, that was when the monitor was still in the sleeve). I also included a photo of GPUz and MonitorInfoViewer which I used to read the EDID date from the monitor. Now stick with me for a second while I tell a tale us more ... mature (relative to the majority of ZAGA I mean) PC gamers will remember. A few years ago, when high refresh rate monitors were very scarce in SA, and those found here were prohibitively expensive, a lot of SA PC gamers with the means imported generic HFR monitors from Asia (i.e. no brand names). So the panels themselves were manufactured by Samsung or LG, but then Chinese manufacturers would take the panels and create generic monitors that didn’t have the full warranty of a Dell, or the frame quality of an HP, etc. and would sell them relatively cheap. It was much cheaper back then to buy these panels, even with import and duty fees (or so I hear, I never had one. Also, the Rand was much stronger against the US Dollar back then). Sometimes it would work out: you could overclock the panel to 120hz or 144hz if you were lucky, sometimes you were unlucky and you couldn’t, or you could but you’d have a few dead pixels. It was called the panel lottery back then. I suspect that’s what we might have here. Checkers (or a company on behalf on Checkers) is importing these monitors really cheaply and rebranding them with the Xceed branding for Checkers). I seem to have gotten lucky with the panel lottery. I’m not saying that in this case there is a panel lottery ... quality control has gotten much better I’m sure and the yield rates for these panels are much higher then when they first started making an appearance. But if there is a panel lottery, at least the supplier and warranty is local, unlike a few years ago. I can’t tell yet if I’m going to keep the monitor yet. I’m more interested in display technologies like HDR rather than pure FPS/HFR since I don’t play competitive FPS games. But at least we now have some idea about the monitors from Checkers, and the closest competitor I can find is a 144hz 24 inch monitor for R3999. TL;DR - the Xceed Byte monitor at Checkers (at least the 27 inch one) seemingly is 144hz, HDR with (theoretically) Freesync. I promise nothing though (read the full post). Ps - sorry for the photos, I was too lazy to do screenshots of the programs. Also, please ignore the slightly messy desk. In the middle of rearranging things.
Thank you for this. This is about the only review available on the monitor. Can I ask for gaming ( and watching a few ms teams meetings) would you recommend the xceed over your Dell ? Have a choice between them. I mostly play fps games so the refresh rate appeals to me
 
Thank you for this. This is about the only review available on the monitor. Can I ask for gaming ( and watching a few ms teams meetings) would you recommend the xceed over your Dell ? Have a choice between them. I mostly play fps games so the refresh rate appeals to me
In short NO. Va panels cause ghosting when transitioning from Dark to grey colors.

Id suggest a TN panel over VA any and every day of the rest of my life.
And yeah, TN panels don't have a wide viewing angle, but you're most likely to sit right in front of the screen than look at it from an angle..

If viewing angle is a must and you must have 5 different sets of eyes looking at the panel, get an IPS.

FOK VA. Straight.

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So i know the main issue might not be relevant to this thread but hopefully the solution might be. I currently have a wootbook with a 1050ti and have noticed i lose about 25% of average performance when connecting to an external screen over HDMI. I have tested this on a dell screen , the xceed 24" and my TV(All FHD). So i have heard about nvidia optimus but don't know where/how to use it. Also to add, is the 1050 Ti connected via hardware to the dp port and the hdmi through software ? dont know how to add an image so see link below. Would a mini Displayport cable to Displayport fix my issue ? Would this cable with the 1.2 standard be fine as i don't want to spend too much to test it as if it doesn't work, i have no use for the cable

 
So i know the main issue might not be relevant to this thread but hopefully the solution might be. I currently have a wootbook with a 1050ti and have noticed i lose about 25% of average performance when connecting to an external screen over HDMI. I have tested this on a dell screen , the xceed 24" and my TV(All FHD). So i have heard about nvidia optimus but don't know where/how to use it. Also to add, is the 1050 Ti connected via hardware to the dp port and the hdmi through software ? dont know how to add an image so see link below. Would a mini Displayport cable to Displayport fix my issue ? Would this cable with the 1.2 standard be fine as i don't want to spend too much to test it as if it doesn't work, i have no use for the cable

I have a wootbook with 2070 rtx & no issues over HDMI. It's likely some driver or software problem on your PC if you losing performance connecting to an external screen or try an HDMI 2.0 cord. I haven't tried a DP cable.
 
I have a wootbook with 2070 rtx & no issues over HDMI. It's likely some driver or software problem on your PC if you losing performance connecting to an external screen or try an HDMI 2.0 cord. I haven't tried a DP cable.
Thank you this advice. Spent a few days looking at it through device manager and noticed the UHD 630 were last updated in 2017 even tho the intel driver update tool was saying up to date. Popped over to the intel website to download the latest drivers and everything works perfectly now. Thank you again
 
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Hi all, I trust everyone is well.

After following this thread I decided to get the 27" yesterday and I am enjoying it but i do have the odd issue of the screen connecting and disconnecting in some games when the game is loading and this is only when I am using a DP cable. Granted it is a old cheap cable so could be the cable so will try get a better quality one.

If you are looking for stock, the Checkers Hyper at Westgate had quite a few instock (both 24" and 27"). Looking at getting another one and a VESA mount for both the screens but that is still in the air.

Thank you everyone for all the info in this thread and the troubleshooting and profiles shared.
 
So not wanting to go through the million post... How is the 24 inch overall? And anyone has decent settings for the colors? Not interested in the hdr part, just th 144hz. Thanks

Hi seeing ive just bought this from @superrob, can someone answer this exact question or point me to a post with recommended settings.
ie : best colour settings, brightness , contrast , gamma. Also not interested in HDR. Thanks
 
Hi seeing ive just bought this from @superrob, can someone answer this exact question or point me to a post with recommended settings.
ie : best colour settings, brightness , contrast , gamma. Also not interested in HDR. Thanks

24 inch settings

Red: 55
Green: 45
Blue: 54

Brightness - 75
Contrast - 50
Black Level - 20


Windows setting - Enable HDR and adjusted whiteness there - 29
Monitor setting - Changed to HDR
Nvidia - Lowered brightness by 10, increase contrast by 5, increase digital vibrance by 5 (makes a big difference in colour)
 

24 inch settings

Red: 55
Green: 45
Blue: 54

Brightness - 75
Contrast - 50
Black Level - 20


Windows setting - Enable HDR and adjusted whiteness there - 29
Monitor setting - Changed to HDR
Nvidia - Lowered brightness by 10, increase contrast by 5, increase digital vibrance by 5 (makes a big difference in colour)

Thanks bud. That seems to be with HDR enabled but if it improves picture quality then I will give it a shot. I haven't got the monitor yet but will try these out :)
 
Thanks bud. That seems to be with HDR enabled but if it improves picture quality then I will give it a shot. I haven't got the monitor yet but will try these out :)
Check out this link.
I download the image and set it as my background so i can just calibrate it myself
 
Hi , Can some one tell me i was at Checkers this afternoon i saw them monitors 24 and 27 but no where on the box did it say it was HDR or 144hz can some one tell me if they still 144hz and HDR but just not printed on the box ?
 
Hi , Can some one tell me i was at Checkers this afternoon i saw them monitors 24 and 27 but no where on the box did it say it was HDR or 144hz can some one tell me if they still 144hz and HDR but just not printed on the box ?
Still the same. The hdr is fake its really bad. 144hz works 100%

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