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Hey ladies and gents :wink:

So my R9280X sadly packed up earlier this year and I'm planning on either getting the RX Vega 56 or GTX 1070, based on Vega's pricing, and would like to upgrade my monitor as well.

A bit of background:
• I mostly play AAA single-player games and a bit of DOTA 2 on the side, other than that, my monitor will be used for web browsing, essay projects, and watching series/movies.
• Current monitor is a Dell S2440L - 24inch 1080p/60Hz AHVA monitor.
• Budget is R6000 at most.
• Not in a hurry to buy as I want to see if I'll find any of my options on sale on Black Friday.

My Thoughts:
• Undecided between 1080p/144Hz and 1440p/60Hz, 1440p/144Hz is way out of my price range.
• Places I looked at were Evetech, Loot, Makro, Raru, Rebeltech, Takealot, and Wootware.
• Prefer going AMD as I see G-Sync monitors only start at R7000 while you can find FreeSync monitors from R5000 already (would like adaptive sync if I'm going 1080p/144Hz).
• Wish 1440p @ 60Hz/75Hz FreeSync monitors were sold here like the Samsung S27H850 and Acer BE270U that are sold overseas.
• Skeptical of TN panels as I read that they have poor viewing angles which won’t work for me as I sometimes have family/friends over and we’ll play multiplayer games seated at various angles.
• When I read about the Samsung C24FG70, it sounded like the perfect middle ground, 24inch 1080p/144Hz with FreeSync and it was a VA panel instead of a TN panel like all the other 144Hz options, then I heard of the long list of QC issues such as purple trailing, fuzzy text, flicker with FreeSync on, and a weird stand; and it doesn't look like we getting the revised C24FG73 model which apparently fixed most of those issues.

1440p/60Hz Options:
• Dell P2416D @ R4000 (P2418D model announced)
• Dell U2515H @ R5600 (U2518D model announced)
• Dell U2715H @ R7200
• Dell U2717D @ R6500 (U2715H successor?)

1080p/144Hz Options:
• Asus VG248Q @ R4100 (Con: TN Panel + PWM dimming + No Adaptive Sync)
• LG 24GM77 @ R4200 (Pro: read it has one of the better TN panels / Con: TN Panel + No Adaptive Sync)
• Asus MG248Q @ R5000 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• Samsung C24FG70 @ R7000 (Pro: FreeSync + VA Panel / Con: QC issues + Pricey)
• Acer XB241 @ R7200 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel + Pricey)
• Asus PG248Q @ R7000 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel + Pricey)

Cheapest 1440/144Hz Monitors: (All above my budget)
• Acer XG270HU @ R8400 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• AOC AG241QX @ R7500 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• Dell S2417DG @ R7800 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel)
 
Not sure what you mean by adaptive sync? You mean no Hz Syncing tech? Thing is, depending on which GPU you have you technically have no Hz Synching tech either if monitor tech and GPU as miss-matched.

So if you're a fan of the green team, I don't see how FreeSync would be a plus over an old monitor with no synching tech.

Hmm, no ultrawides?

Giving your viewing angle needs I'd pick one of the 27" dells or an ultrawide.

I seem to remember there being 27" Dells that could do 75Hz FreeSync?

I have a LG 24GM77 by the way and I like it, I think it's the best way for the gamer on a budget to go 144Hz. I even manage to have it next to my PB248Q (ASUS ProArt-type (it's better than the PA series though) IPS 60Hz 1200P) without being completely disgusted comparing the colour accuracy and intensity (most of the time).
 
Here's your winner;
https://www.rebeltech.co.za/11121-samsung-28-4k-led-1ms-370cd-m2-hdmi-displayport.html
http://4k.com/monitor/a-review-of-t...e590-28-inch-screen-u28e590d-led-lit-monitor/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAcHJ5B_JuY

Pair with an RX Vega 64 so you can push games at 4K close to 60FPS or maybe always (we will see what the reviews say but pretty sure it will push 4K over 60FPS if expected performance is better than GTX1070)

My reasoning;
4K - Future proof as 4K content starts to roll out as well as having the GPU grunt to run games at 4K, movies and series too will look amazeballs
FreeSync
28-inch Display, the bigger the better for movies and series

If you not in a hurry, wait for some HDR certified models to be released here. Maybe you could pick up a luck around the holiday rush.

Also, what games are you playing with friends on your current 24-inch monitor? That experience must already be terrible. I hated playing split screen PS3 games with friends on my 39-inch TV, somewhat better now with a 49-inch TV.
 
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U can always buy 4 of my monitors lol

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A while back I asked similar question and a few members mentioned the LG 29UM68.
 
Thanks for all the replies, really appreciate the feedback :D

Not sure what you mean by adaptive sync? You mean no Hz Syncing tech? Thing is, depending on which GPU you have you technically have no Hz Synching tech either if monitor tech and GPU as miss-matched.

So if you're a fan of the green team, I don't see how FreeSync would be a plus over an old monitor with no synching tech.

Hmm, no ultrawides?

Giving your viewing angle needs I'd pick one of the 27" dells or an ultrawide.

I seem to remember there being 27" Dells that could do 75Hz FreeSync?

I have a LG 24GM77 by the way and I like it, I think it's the best way for the gamer on a budget to go 144Hz. I even manage to have it next to my PB248Q (ASUS ProArt-type (it's better than the PA series though) IPS 60Hz 1200P) without being completely disgusted comparing the colour accuracy and intensity (most of the time).

Sorry, I assumed FreeSync/G-Sync tech is called Adaptive Sync, and I meant I would want (possibly need) that since I'll be keeping my GPU for about 2-3 Years and won't be hitting 144Hz all the time, if I do go 1080p/144Hz.

As I said, I don't have my GPU yet, still deciding, so I can plan for which Syncing tech I'll be getting.

I don't think I'd go Ultrawide (or any non-standard 16:9 format for that matter), I read that not all games support it and even some that do, it can be buggy, don't feel like having to mess around with various settings before I can play a game.

Jip, as [MENTION=31543]LazyDemoni[/MENTION] mentioned, it's a 1080p 27inch screen though, I think I'd prefer 1440p for a 27inch screen since I'll be sitting at an arms length from it.

Ya, I read that the LG and the Viewsonic XG2401 (not sold here) have by far the best TN panels around, and, as you said, could even compare to some IPS monitors, but the problem still is with viewing angles unfortunately, which is where the Samsung C24FG70 would've came in.

Pair with an RX Vega 64 so you can push games at 4K close to 60FPS or maybe always (we will see what the reviews say but pretty sure it will push 4K over 60FPS if expected performance is better than GTX1070)

My reasoning;
4K - Future proof as 4K content starts to roll out as well as having the GPU grunt to run games at 4K, movies and series too will look amazeballs
FreeSync
28-inch Display, the bigger the better for movies and series

If you not in a hurry, wait for some HDR certified models to be released here. Maybe you could pick up a luck around the holiday rush.

Also, what games are you playing with friends on your current 24-inch monitor? That experience must already be terrible. I hated playing split screen PS3 games with friends on my 39-inch TV, somewhat better now with a 49-inch TV.

Oh how I wish I could afford a Vega 64, but unfortunately Vega 56/GTX 1070 is the most I can afford (student life is tough), so 4K isn't an option for me.

I read that HDR monitors will be super expensive though :grumpy: but the Dell U2518D I mentioned is coming with Dell HDR apparently, not real HDR, but can mimic it or something like that.

Lol yeah splitscreen games like GRID Autosport, Serious Sam 3, and Rocket League are all fun, but could do with a bigger display lol, but non-splitscreen multiplayer games (Broforce!) aren't as bad.

This Dell is 27" and has Freesync (narrow range though, 48-75Hz) and is IPS. It is 1080p which some people find to be too small for a monitor of this size. Personally, I'm okay with it but I don't pixel peep.

Yeah, I'm also one of those people unfortunately lol, I need 1440p for 27inch as my monitor will be at an arms length from me. Wish Dell made a 1440p @ 60/75Hz monitor.

U can always buy 4 of my monitors lol

I'm not looking for a 3D monitor nor do I have the space for a multi-monitor setup lol.

A while back I asked similar question and a few members mentioned the LG 29UM68.

As I mentioned above, I don't think I'd go with UltraWide as I read it's not supported by all games and some games that do support it, implement it badly.
Did you go with that monitor or something else? And what has your experience been like, if you don't mind me asking?
 
Sorry, I assumed FreeSync/G-Sync tech is called Adaptive Sync, and I meant I would want (possibly need) that since I'll be keeping my GPU for about 2-3 Years and won't be hitting 144Hz all the time, if I do go 1080p/144Hz.
No, you're right. I just mean that a monitor with no synch tech is identical to one with missmatched sync thech. So if you want a 1070 but feel budget will push you towards a FreeSync monitor there's no difference if you just get one with no Sync tech at all.

As I said, I don't have my GPU yet, still deciding, so I can plan for which Syncing tech I'll be getting.
You'll be going FreeSync if at all, I can tell you that already. GSync is not in your budget.

I don't think I'd go Ultrawide (or any non-standard 16:9 format for that matter), I read that not all games support it and even some that do, it can be buggy, don't feel like having to mess around with various settings before I can play a game.

The reason why I mention the ultrawides is because they are the best combination of good viewing angles and speed one can get on a budget in a panel.

Jip, as [MENTION=31543]LazyDemoni[/MENTION] mentioned, it's a 1080p 27inch screen though, I think I'd prefer 1440p for a 27inch screen since I'll be sitting at an arms length from it.
I agree, 1440P would be best for you.

Ya, I read that the LG and the Viewsonic XG2401 (not sold here) have by far the best TN panels around, and, as you said, could even compare to some IPS monitors, but the problem still is with viewing angles unfortunately, which is where the Samsung C24FG70 would've came in.
Quote I agree. I was merely mentioning it because if you have any sort of 144Hz itch the 24GM77 is the cheapest best way to scratch it. (And I actually have one, some I'm not just chucking back what I've read).
 
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No, you're right. I just mean that a monitor with no synch tech is identical to one with missmatched sync thech. So if you want a 1070 but feel budget will push you towards a FreeSync monitor there's no difference if you just get one with no Sync tech at all.


You'll be going FreeSync if at all, I can tell you that already. GSync is not in your budget.



The reason why I mention the ultrawides is because they are the best combination of good viewing angles and speed one can get on a budget in a panel.


I agree, 1440P would be best for you.


Quote I agree. I was merely mentioning it because if you have any sort of 144Hz itch the 24GM77 is the cheapest best way to scratch it. (And I actually have one, some I'm not just chucking back what I've read).

Lol, yes FreeSync looks far more likely than G-Sync, but a guy can dream I guess lol; but I think realistically for me, the Samsung is the only 144Hz monitor that meets most of my requirements so it's really going to come down to how it's pricing will be towards the end of the year compared to the Dell 1440p monitors (and if I feel like playing the panel lottery and hope I get one with no QC issues).

If I may ask, why do you "only" have the LG 24GM77 with 1080p/144Hz and not something like the Dell S2417DG with 1440p/144Hz G-Sync goodness to match your GTX 1080 sweetness haha
 
Lol, yes FreeSync looks far more likely than G-Sync, but a guy can dream I guess lol; but I think realistically for me, the Samsung is the only 144Hz monitor that meets most of my requirements so it's really going to come down to how it's pricing will be towards the end of the year compared to the Dell 1440p monitors (and if I feel like playing the panel lottery and hope I get one with no QC issues).

If I may ask, why do you "only" have the LG 24GM77 with 1080p/144Hz and not something like the Dell S2417DG with 1440p/144Hz G-Sync goodness to match your GTX 1080 sweetness haha

I would never touch a 24" 1440P monitor. Needs to be 27" or greater.

I keep hoping I'll find someone on here who's gotten bored of their S2716DG at just under the 2 year mark letting it go for 7-8K but sadly nothing yet. (Very wishful thinking but oh well, although I have actually missed one similar such opportunity before where one was going for 9K in my city back when they were 11-12K retail depending on where you looked)

Also just like you I feel very strongly drawn to the CFG70. Actually seen a side by side comparison of it and I prefer it to a PG279Q (German vid on youtube, Lims Cave). Although it has a bit more ghosting than the ASUS.
 
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I would never touch a 24" 1440P monitor. Needs to be 27" or greater.

I keep hoping I'll find someone on here who's gotten bored of their S2716DG at just under the 2 year mark letting it go for 7-8K but sadly nothing yet. (Very wishful thinking but oh well, although I have actually missed one similar such opportunity before where one was going for 9K in my city back when they were 11-12K retail depending on where you looked)

Also just like you I feel very strongly drawn to the CFG70. Actually seen a side by side comparison of it and I prefer it to a PG279Q (German vid on youtube, Lims Cave). Although it has a bit more ghosting than the ASUS.

Lol I was gonna say the 27inch one as well, but what's wrong with 24inch 1440p?
Ya that CFG70 sounds really nice, pity about all the issues though, I've seen videos of the purple trailing, and then there's still the ghosting you mentioned and the fuzzy text.

https://www.rebeltech.co.za/13808-lg-34-34uc79g-led-144hz.html

yes its 10k+, but you will probably never need to upgrade again. it is pretty massive though.
but i reckon you wouldn't like a 25/29 inch 21:9 coming from a 24 inch 16:9

Lmao that's almost my whole budget for GPU + monitor combined :rolleyes:
 
Lol I was gonna say the 27inch one as well, but what's wrong with 24inch 1440p?
Ya that CFG70 sounds really nice, pity about all the issues though, I've seen videos of the purple trailing, and then there's still the ghosting you mentioned and the fuzzy text.

Larger resolution in same std size we have had for years means everything is much smaller. It's like taking my monitor and making it sharper and yet harder to see at the same time. Well maybe not for games if they have proper UI scaling, but browsing this forum for instance.

Btw when I mention ghosting I don't mean more than any average monitor, so it's not like that's an instant disqualifier unless it's VS the likes of ASUS. All monitors will either give a little ghosting or overshoot, aside from maybe the P258Q and BenQ's 240Hz.

I've seen a lot of reports of the purple shadows being fixed on the CFG70s. And [MENTION=4234]Odin_ZA[/MENTION] never had that (he had a white 24CFG70). Nor did the guy in Lims Cave on the second review model he got later.
 
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Larger resolution in same std size we have had for years means everything is much smaller. It's like taking my monitor and making it sharper and yet harder to see at the same time. Well maybe not for games if they have proper UI scaling, but browsing this forum for instance.

I've seen a lot of reports of the purple shadows being fixed on the CFG70s. And [MENTION=4234]Odin_ZA[/MENTION] never had that (he had a white 24CFG70). Nor did the guy in Lims Cave on the second review model he got later.

Mine was black. Definitely had none of the issues he seems to be describing. Mine was from a 2017 manufactured batch.
 
Mine was black. Definitely had none of the issues he seems to be describing. Mine was from a 2017 manufactured batch.

Woah, that was quick. Sorry, dunno why I thought you ended up with a white one.
 
Undecided between 1080p/144Hz and 1440p/60Hz, 1440p/144Hz is way out of my price range.
From those options, I would definitetly take the 1440p/60hz
 
Are you looking for a 27" specifically? Otherwise, why not go for those LG 24" 1440p 144hz
 
Mine was black. Definitely had none of the issues he seems to be describing. Mine was from a 2017 manufactured batch.

I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions about the monitor lol
1. That's good news, where did you buy it from? So that I know who has from the new batch lol, btw how did you find out it was from the Jan 2017 batch?
2. Does the text seem fuzzy to you? I read that because of the wider than usual pixel distance, text seems unpleasant.
3. How "deep" is the stand behind the monitor? From the pics I saw it looks like you need quite a bit of space behind your monitor lol (wish we had the revised CFG73 model here :rolleyes:

Undecided between 1080p/144Hz and 1440p/60Hz, 1440p/144Hz is way out of my price range.
From those options, I would definitetly take the 1440p/60hz

I feel like that's looking the better option for me as well lol.
 
I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions about the monitor lol

LOL. No problem.

That's good news, where did you buy it from? So that I know who has from the new batch lol, btw how did you find out it was from the Jan 2017 batch?

I purchased it from Amazon before they were released in SA. The batch number is on the box.

Does the text seem fuzzy to you? I read that because of the wider than usual pixel distance, text seems unpleasant.

Not at all. The only time the text was blurry is when I first turned it on before setting the refresh rate to 144HZ within Windows.

How "deep" is the stand behind the monitor? From the pics I saw it looks like you need quite a bit of space behind your monitor

Indeed. It requires a decent amount of space, however that depends on high you want the monitor to stand. The lower the monitor is positioned, the more the arm pushes out at the back.
 
Hey ladies and gents :wink:

So my R9280X sadly packed up earlier this year and I'm planning on either getting the RX Vega 56 or GTX 1070, based on Vega's pricing, and would like to upgrade my monitor as well.

A bit of background:
• I mostly play AAA single-player games and a bit of DOTA 2 on the side, other than that, my monitor will be used for web browsing, essay projects, and watching series/movies.
• Current monitor is a Dell S2440L - 24inch 1080p/60Hz AHVA monitor.
• Budget is R6000 at most.
• Not in a hurry to buy as I want to see if I'll find any of my options on sale on Black Friday.

My Thoughts:
• Undecided between 1080p/144Hz and 1440p/60Hz, 1440p/144Hz is way out of my price range.
• Places I looked at were Evetech, Loot, Makro, Raru, Rebeltech, Takealot, and Wootware.
• Prefer going AMD as I see G-Sync monitors only start at R7000 while you can find FreeSync monitors from R5000 already (would like adaptive sync if I'm going 1080p/144Hz).
• Wish 1440p @ 60Hz/75Hz FreeSync monitors were sold here like the Samsung S27H850 and Acer BE270U that are sold overseas.
• Skeptical of TN panels as I read that they have poor viewing angles which won’t work for me as I sometimes have family/friends over and we’ll play multiplayer games seated at various angles.
• When I read about the Samsung C24FG70, it sounded like the perfect middle ground, 24inch 1080p/144Hz with FreeSync and it was a VA panel instead of a TN panel like all the other 144Hz options, then I heard of the long list of QC issues such as purple trailing, fuzzy text, flicker with FreeSync on, and a weird stand; and it doesn't look like we getting the revised C24FG73 model which apparently fixed most of those issues.

1440p/60Hz Options:
• Dell P2416D @ R4000 (P2418D model announced)
• Dell U2515H @ R5600 (U2518D model announced)
• Dell U2715H @ R7200
• Dell U2717D @ R6500 (U2715H successor?)

1080p/144Hz Options:
• Asus VG248Q @ R4100 (Con: TN Panel + PWM dimming + No Adaptive Sync)
• LG 24GM77 @ R4200 (Pro: read it has one of the better TN panels / Con: TN Panel + No Adaptive Sync)
• Asus MG248Q @ R5000 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• Samsung C24FG70 @ R7000 (Pro: FreeSync + VA Panel / Con: QC issues + Pricey)
• Acer XB241 @ R7200 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel + Pricey)
• Asus PG248Q @ R7000 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel + Pricey)

Cheapest 1440/144Hz Monitors: (All above my budget)
• Acer XG270HU @ R8400 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• AOC AG241QX @ R7500 (Pro: FreeSync / Con: TN Panel)
• Dell S2417DG @ R7800 (Pro: G-Sync / Con: TN Panel)

Just a random update I thought I'd share :D

• Firstly, I think I'm going to scratch all TN panels off my list as I don't think I'd be able to bear going from an AHVA panel to TN (with regards to color and viewing angle), this leaves the Samsung C24FG70 as my only 1080p/144Hz monitor
• Secondly, I'll only be looking at the 27inch Dell monitors for 1440p/60Hz as I don't feel I'd enjoy the scaling going from 24inch 1080p to 24/25inch 1440p as [MENTION=38509]Mast3rBlast3r[/MENTION] mentioned.
• Thirdly, I’m not really sure how I feel about 1440p, I’d love the extra resolution, but I feel the RX Vega 56/GTX 1070 won’t last past next year at this level (be able to get 60+fps with at least high settings), I’m no expert so feel free to say if you
disagree
• Finally, with RX Vega 56 finally being announced, it has presented a new problem for me, that being that it is going to require 2 x 8pin connectors, but my PSU only has a 6pin & a 8pin, which means I’ll have to upgrade that as well if I go this route
which makes the RX Vega 56 options the most expensive.
• That brings me to introducing a new alternative option (for 1080p/144Hz at least) which is to get a RX 580 8GB (if I can find one :rolleyes:), I say RX 580 over GTX 1060 because the Samsung C24FG70 is FreeSync.

So my options come down to:
1. Samsung C24FG70 (1080p/144Hz FreeSync) + RX Vega 56 + new PSU
2. Samsung C24FG70 (1080p/144Hz FreeSync) + RX 580 [probably the cheapest option, but will have to upgrade sooner]
3. Dell U2715H/U2717D + RX Vega 56 + new PSU
4. Dell U2715H/U2717D + Nvidia GTX 1070 [Could probably find it for a good price on here later in the year with Vega release + some Christmas goodness :tongue:]

Will probably update again when Vega 56's local pricing is released. :wink:
 
Theese one [h=1]LG 25UM57-P 25" Ultra-Wide WFHD[/h]- WQHD (2560 x 1080) Resolution
- 21:9 Aspect Ratio
- 250 cd/m² Brightness
- 2 x HDMI Ports
- Dimming Technology
- 3 Gamer modes, 2 First-Person-Shooter modes, RT’s pre-set mode and a reader Mode
- Easy Control with Joystick
- Up to 4-Screen Split
- ENERGY STAR Qualified
- 3 Year Warranty



R3,094.00

https://www.wootware.co.za/lg-25um57-p-25-ultra-wide-wfhd-2560x1080-ips-desktop-monitor.html

No u

25" ultrawides are cheap but they suck, they're small. The only time you should consider one is if you have next to no budget to begin with and would be looking at a normal 23" 60Hz 1080P monitor.

I think he could do quite well with a 29" ultrawide though.
 
No u

25" ultrawides are cheap but they suck, they're small. The only time you should consider one is if you have next to no budget to begin with and would be looking at a normal 23" 60Hz 1080P monitor.

I think he could do quite well with a 29" ultrawide though.

I think you need to extrapolate your argument further. Do they suck JUST because they are small? I'm OK with smaller. The same amount of pixels over a larger area reduces the sharpness so yeah. Also, I don't have much of a budget since my house takes a significant portion of that already. I like that one because it's 1440P and IPS.
 
I think you need to extrapolate your argument further. Do they suck JUST because they are small? I'm OK with smaller. The same amount of pixels over a larger area reduces the sharpness so yeah. Also, I don't have much of a budget since my house takes a significant portion of that already. I like that one because it's 1440P and IPS.

1440P? What you smoking? It's 1080P.
And yes, they suck because they have a ludicrously small footprint. 25" ultra wide sounds big but it's like 2 20" monitors taped together.
 
1440P? What you smoking? It's 1080P.
And yes, they suck because they have a ludicrously small footprint. 25" ultra wide sounds big but it's like 2 20" monitors taped together.
Oh shit, I thought it was 1440P. Will keep looking for a 1440P cheapo monitor then.


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Oh shit, I thought it was 1440P. Will keep looking for a 1440P cheapo monitor then.

If you want a cheap 1440p monitor, check out the Dell P2416D I mentioned in my original post, it is a 16:9 24inch 1440p @ 60Hz monitor.
As for recommending Widescreen monitors for me, I've mentioned in earlier posts that I only want standard 16:9 monitors due to the incompatibility and/or poor implementation of widescreen in lots of games, which I don't feel like having to deal with.
 

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