CPU and GPU temps

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

Hi all

I noticed when I play scum that i get freezes like for a second.
I never paid much attention to it but I recently got a new case and with setting it up I had a look at my temps.

My Cpu is a i7-8700K (Stock) and GPU is Asus ROG Strix 1080ti which all runs stock speeds. I have a CPU cooler Coolermaster Hyper 212 With push-pull config fans.

I monitored my GPU temps and it appears to settle at 84 C when playing - This is also the default GPU Temp Target setting.
MY Cpu runs at about 70 C- 80 C.

The room the PC is in, is really hot compared to the rest of the house.
I have a few questions if someone could assist please?
1. Could the GPU be thermal throttling?
2. The CPU temps also seem high to me, are they?

Sola Scriptura · Oct 27, 2019

that cooler is no good for the 8700k - make sure MCE is turned off in your bios.

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

1. Yes
2. Yes

Some pics of the build/case would help.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

Hi all

Thanks for the help thusfar. Here is the Case setup.

I have 3 fans in the front as intake and the 2 on top and 1 at the back as exhaust.
The case is Antec Dark Phantom DP501.
The Case Fans are 5x Antec Prism 120 ARGB and 1x Coolermaster Sickleflow 120
The CPU Cooler fans are both Coolermaster Sickleflow 120 fans.

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

1: GPU probably thermal throttling.
2: Yes, 8700k has a bad TIM as far as I remember.

On a side note: RebelTech now stock the Noctua range of air coolers, so maybe an NH-D14/NH-D15 would do a little bit better.

In my personal experience, the CM Hyper 612 couldn't keep my 9700K below 65/70 when the Ambient was around 25C, I have a large case, 3 intake fans,3 exhaust, and 2 fans coming in at the bottom.
Now running a Custom loop and the processor never goes above 50C at an ambient of 25C.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

Blood_Bought said:
that cooler is no good for the 8700k - make sure MCE is turned off in your bios.

Ok thanks will have a look at that. I used it on my previous case and the temps wire quite stable at 65 C while gaming.

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
Hi all

Thanks for the help thusfar. Here is the Case setup.

I have 3 fans in the front as intake and the 2 on top and 1 at the back as exhaust.
The case is Antec Dark Phantom DP501.
The Case Fans are 5x Antec Prism 120 ARGB and 1x Coolermaster Sickleflow 120
The CPU Cooler fans are both Coolermaster Sickleflow 120 fans.

Just an idea, but that first fan at the top might be starving the cooler of some air, drawing it out before it can go through the processor cooling tower.
Maybe try taking it out/ turning it off and see if that helps.

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

The two on top look like exhaust, which is fine. But it doesnt look like the 3 intake are super effective ;/ Temper glass cases in my experience always have shit thermals versus conventional.

But yes, I would definitely look to upgrade the CPU cooler, even on 8700k that turbo's quite high. And not sure what to say on the GPU. Have you tried it without the tempered window for interest sake?

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

M@tree2 said:
Just an idea, but that first fan at the top might be starving the cooler of some air, drawing it out before it can go through the processor cooling tower.
Maybe try taking it out/ turning it off and see if that helps.

I also thought it could be the case, Could changing it to an intake Fan help as well?

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

heinreich said:
The two on top look like exhaust, which is fine. But it doesnt look like the 3 intake are super effective ;/ Temper glass cases in my experience always have shit thermals versus conventional.

But yes, I would definitely look to upgrade the CPU cooler, even on 8700k that turbo's quite high. And not sure what to say on the GPU. Have you tried it without the tempered window for interest sake?

Yeah the side of the temper glass is really hot, my previous case had a side intake directly on the GPU which helped with those temps I think.

Could a watercooler also help with the CPU temps and if so, which one would suffice?

dotnerd · Oct 27, 2019

As lekker as that CPU is, it runs pretty hot and is not really paired well with that cooler. In fact, I doubt there are many fan based coolers that it will be happy with. I would (if it fits in case) try a 360 AiO and be done with it. Thats pretty much the best you can do with regards to surface area for dissipating heat. If you want to go all the way make it push-pull with by adding 3 additional fans.

Again, if it fits

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
I also thought it could be the case, Could changing it to an intake Fan help as well?

It could, but you are going against the general rule of physics that hot air rises.
Like heinreich said, maybe remove the front glass panel.

I have a very similar setup, removing the front panel on my case helped.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

dotnerd said:
As lekker as that CPU is, it runs pretty hot and is not really paired well with that cooler. In fact, I doubt there are many fan based coolers that it will be happy with. I would (if it fits in case) try a 360 AiO and be done with it. Thats pretty much the best you can do with regards to surface area for dissipating heat. If you want to go all the way make it push-pull with by adding 3 additional fans.

Again, if it fits

I had a look and it can only support a 280mm Radiator.

dotnerd · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
I also thought it could be the case, Could changing it to an intake Fan help as well?

It could very well be that the shroud on the front of the case is not ideal for optimum intake. I had a H500i that had relentless overheating problems (1080ti + 6700k) when gaming. I guess it was just not made for what I wanted to use it for. Not saying your case sucks, just suggesting that maybe its struggling to get air in.

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

Any 240mm and up AiO cooler would suffice.
See if removing the tempered side panel would make a difference, as well as the front intake (which will definitely make a difference). Cooling is a fun new hobby awaiting you

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

heinreich said:
Any 240mm and up AiO cooler would suffice.
See if removing the tempered side panel would make a difference, as well as the front intake (which will definitely make a difference). Cooling is a fun new hobby awaiting you

+1 on this.

Here is a side view of mine, exactly the same layout, less the massive CPU cooler.
Fan setup.

dotnerd · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
I had a look and it can only support a 280mm Radiator.

Thats the next best option, but not many guys make a 280.

There is a logger that can log and graph your data whilst gaming.
Get GPU-Z and this GenericLogViewer - GPU-Z - Version 3.0

Show nice graphs of various areas of your system when under load. Will help you make an informed decision. As a general guideline of you see all temps ramping up whilst gaming at the same time I would rather try remove side panels and check what happens. If same then try move the air better through your case. If it is just one component ramping up severely then focus on whats going on there.

Also, before you spend money on a new AiO, keep in mind that if the ambient temp in your case if high and you push that through the radiator you wont have much benefit.

My journey ended with a Lian-Li PC-011, 9x Ml120 fans, Corsair Commander Pro and a H150i AiO, completely not necessary but I refused to be defeated.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

M@tree2 said:
It could, but you are going against the general rule of physics that hot air rises.
Like heinreich said, maybe remove the front glass panel.

I have a very similar setup, removing the front panel on my case helped.

Removed the side glass and the GPU temps is dropping nicely. dropped to 77 within a few seconds.
So the side panel is not working well with this GPU.

I see the front can take an 360mm AIO.

Bought this new case but seems it sucks for the components I use.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

dotnerd said:
Thats the next best option, but not many guys make a 280.

There is a logger that can log and graph your data whilst gaming.
Get GPU-Z and this GenericLogViewer - GPU-Z - Version 3.0

Show nice graphs of various areas of your system when under load. Will help you make an informed decision. As a general guideline of you see all temps ramping up whilst gaming at the same time I would rather try remove side panels and check what happens. If same then try move the air better through your case. If it is just one component ramping up severely then focus on whats going on there.

Also, before you spend money on a new AiO, keep in mind that if the ambient temp in your case if high and you push that through the radiator you wont have much benefit.

My journey ended with a Lian-Li PC-011, 9x Ml120 fans, Corsair Commander Pro and a H150i AiO, completely not necessary but I refused to be defeated.

I can feel the hotest part in the case is my GPU be far. removed the side panel and the heat is very noticeable comming from the GPU, so much that it feels like a heater that is switched on.

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
Removed the side glass and the GPU temps is dropping nicely. dropped to 77 within a few seconds.
So the side panel is not working well with this GPU.

I see the front can take an 360mm AIO.

Bought this new case but seems it sucks for the components I use.

That's already an improvement, 7C is not to be sneezed at.
As a matter of interest, do you have a place to put a fan at the bottom to blow directly into the GPU?
Front panels are normally stuck on with double-sided tape or thumb screws if they are glass...

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

dotnerd said:
Thats the next best option, but not many guys make a 280.

There is a logger that can log and graph your data whilst gaming.
Get GPU-Z and this GenericLogViewer - GPU-Z - Version 3.0

Show nice graphs of various areas of your system when under load. Will help you make an informed decision. As a general guideline of you see all temps ramping up whilst gaming at the same time I would rather try remove side panels and check what happens. If same then try move the air better through your case. If it is just one component ramping up severely then focus on whats going on there.

Also, before you spend money on a new AiO, keep in mind that if the ambient temp in your case if high and you push that through the radiator you wont have much benefit.

My journey ended with a Lian-Li PC-011, 9x Ml120 fans, Corsair Commander Pro and a H150i AiO, completely not necessary but I refused to be defeated.

I would like to see this monster.

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
Removed the side glass and the GPU temps is dropping nicely. dropped to 77 within a few seconds.
So the side panel is not working well with this GPU.

I see the front can take an 360mm AIO.

Bought this new case but seems it sucks for the components I use.

Its unfortunately a balancing act. The glass cases have great aesthetics but its seriously not great on cooling. You could probably make it work with enough adjustments...and like you mentioned, that room is the hottest in the house so you are probably better off leaving the side panel off during summer months

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

I think the main culprit might be the Antec prizm fans not moving enough air. i can bearly feel the air compared to the coolermaster fan I have setup next to it.

Both fans run from the same PWM controlled hub.

Ultra · Oct 27, 2019

M@tree2 said:
That's already an improvement, 7C is not to be sneezed at.
As a matter of interest, do you have a place to put a fan at the bottom to blow directly into the GPU?
Front panels are normally stuck on with double-sided tape or thumb screws if they are glass...

Dropped to 71 now with the front panel removed. Temps are definitely better with the front and side glass panel removed.

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
I think the main culprit might be the Antec prizm fans not moving enough air. i can bearly feel the air compared to the coolermaster fan I have setup next to it.

Both fans run from the same PWM controlled hub.

See if you can find 3 x Noctua 120mm fans in front

They will save your temps. Never looked back since my first purchase

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

Ultra said:
Dropped to 71 now with the front panel removed. Temps are definitely better with the front and side glass panel removed.

Correct me if I am wrong all, but putting the side panel back now would channel the air more ?

Rebeltech have Noctua in stock.

PilotDrake1 · Oct 27, 2019

I reckon the GPU Temps are fine as a 1080ti has a high TDP hence the higher temps. 84C should be fine if the card is utilized at 95% to 98% for a prolonged period of time. If the GPU isnt utilized like mentioned then you should consider 3 fans in the front to bring in fresh air

PilotDrake1 · Oct 27, 2019

M@tree2 said:
Correct me if I am wrong all, but putting the side panel back now would channel the air more ?

Rebeltech have Noctua in stock.

Theoretically yes, but in reality no as having the side panel open would provide air in abundance over a specifically channeled amount, hence providing more air for heat to be transferred to

heinreich · Oct 27, 2019

PilotDrake1 said:
I reckon the GPU Temps are fine as a 1080ti has a high TDP hence the higher temps. 84C should be fine if the card is utilized at 95% to 98% for a prolonged period of time. If the GPU isnt utilized like mentioned then you should consider 3 fans in the front to bring in fresh air

You're not wrong, but anyone who uses their GPU at 84 for more than an hour a day is on a short term plan to get a new GPU....

M@tree2 · Oct 27, 2019

heinreich said:
You're not wrong, but anyone who uses their GPU at 84 for more than an hour a day is on a short term plan to get a new GPU....

Agreed.
I have a Palit 1080, never seen these temps.

Is it true that the Asus Strix cards have cooling issues?

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