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The motherboard side, specifically the x570 boards are the new chip sets biggest issue to me when competing for price/perf, considering the 2 as a whole.

For instance the more 'viable' 9700k and Aorus Ultra z390 is cheaper by almost 1.5-2k in comparison to the 3700x and the x570 Aorus ultra board.

Now to me and I think allot of others pcie 4 isn't worth the 2k extra outlay as a gamer for less performance in the end when that can be used for an nvme or extra ram which will make a much larger impact overall.

If the boards were in the same price range then it would be a completely different ball game 🤷‍♂️
 

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The motherboard side, specifically the x570 boards are the new chip sets biggest issue to me when competing for price/perf, considering the 2 as a whole.

For instance the more 'viable' 9700k and Aorus Ultra z390 is cheaper by almost 1.5-2k in comparison to the 3700x and the x570 Aorus ultra board.

Now to me and I think allot of others pcie 4 isn't worth the 2k extra outlay as a gamer for less performance in the end when that can be used for an nvme or extra ram which will make a much larger impact overall.

If the boards were in the same price range then it would be a completely different ball game 🤷‍♂️
Wow, that I agree with!
I went for the 9700k when I was looking, because even then the 2700x with a suitable mobo came to the same price.
Current specs listed below in my sig...

The ultra board is a bit excessive no, what about an Asus Strix Z390E, brings the price difference down to 2.5k, which is extra RAM.
 

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Does anyone here actually watch Linus. So annoying !
Yeah, I watch GN when it's bedtime. Better than a sleeping pill. :p Also this guy that works for them is quite good, love when he is in videos.

 

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Wow, that I agree with!
I went for the 9700k when I was looking, because even then the 2700x with a suitable mobo came to the same price.
Current specs listed below in my sig...

The ultra board is a bit excessive no, what about an Asus Strix Z390E, brings the price difference down to 2.5k, which is extra RAM.
Exactly! The Ultra I just used as its the most recommended board for oc'ing, features etc. But the Asus boards have an even bigger margin as you say with differences in price.
 

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Yeah, I watch GN when it's bedtime. Better than a sleeping pill. :p Also this guy that works for them is quite good, love when he is in videos.

He works for Linus not Steve
 

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Yeah, I watch GN when it's bedtime. Better than a sleeping pill. :p Also this guy that works for them is quite good, love when he is in videos.

Yeah i agree . He should start his own channel . Soothing voice and knows his shit !
 

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Yeah, I watch GN when it's bedtime. Better than a sleeping pill. :p Also this guy that works for them is quite good, love when he is in videos.

I agree I like him too.
 

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After watching Gamers Nexu's review, I may well grab a Ryzen 5/7 , 6 or > core build in the next 6 months. Lets see what comes of it all. Seems like damn good bang for buck. My only 'concern' is that historically people have "had to" upgrade their AMD systems sooner than someone with a competing Intel build @ the same Ghz, but it seems like things are changing...
Intels upgrade path is always dam expensive, AMD on their 3rd gen yet can still use a 1st gen board its just swopping out of cpus thats basically it
 

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Intels upgrade path is always dam expensive, AMD on their 3rd gen yet can still use a 1st gen board its just swopping out of cpus thats basically it
Both your statements are true. Re Intel's upgrade path.. I'm still rocking a 4th gen i7. I'v never been one of those people to upgrade a GPU / CPU every 1-2 generations. I just can't justify the performance "gain" for the $ outlay. That said, historically Intel have always paid for themselves long term, much like nVidia. There just seems to me more "quality engineering" / oomph under the hood, atleast in my experience.

If upgraded every 1-3years like clockwork, then yes Intel & Intel / nVidia would be more expensive. If the latest from AMD isn't just sexy because its new, I'll prob be looking at a 3600x & a nice little mobo + RAM come black Fri, as for my current multitasking (little time for gaming unfort) workload , 6-8 cores could be rather nice, but I'll need to look into their equivalent of VT-d & a few other things.
 

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Clearly, local sellers are matching the prices because they can, not because AMD is supposed to be cheaper.
Its possible but keep in mind that in SA, AMD have a tiny tiny marketshare VS Intel. Less sales volume = less discounts passed onto the consumer. Just wait til BF, I'm sure these new AMD , and quite possibly current Intel CPU's / combo's will be going for a good 20-30% cheaper than they are are, partly due to BF & part due to renewed competition.
 

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This is how my upgrade always goes. Look for pricing on what I can afford for Intel, pull up something AMD in more or less the same budget. Open bench sites. Intel wins there, Amd wins there, Intel overall 1 or 2% faster. Look at Amd price.... Hell yeah R1000 cheaper, SOLD. :D
 

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Does anyone here actually watch Linus. So annoying !
Yes. But in his defense, he did say, if he can be on YouTube and be a success, anyone can.

I’m really excited for the future of AMD products because instead of sticking to a few cores and small increases in performance, they are changing a lot.

This means that the product is not refined and games don’t properly use the cores yet.

If you look at the 2700X review from when it was launched to now, there is a huge gain as drivers, BIOS and games have all been refined to make better use of it.

I think that in 2 months time, the 3700X is going to be insane for gaming.

As for Intel, well, they may come out with another product soon but they will need to drop prices and increase value to make the average gamer want to buy them again.

Most people can’t afford a 9900K.

And what about the next gen of AMD products after AM4? Zen 2 is the last gen before a major refresh so I think AMD has a lot to give still and their next lineup is going to be even more refined and more powerful.
 

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Was nice to see that I can drop in the 3600/3700/3800/x CPUs in my asus prime x370 pro mobo. Its got official support so no need to buy a new mobo. I just think its cool to be able to swap out the CPU and nothing else, meanwhile with Intel....
Shame about the price for the new stuff though,and I cant even sell my 2600 since they are almost R2000 cheaper brand new at the moment.
 

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Benchmarks don't actually have much in them at stock clocks besides multi threaded workstation applications. I would still get the 3700x over the 9700k at these prices though.
 

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I see the i7 9700F is out . Around R 6k . Looks like a decent Intel option
Intel Core i7-9700F. Suppliers have stock I see.
 

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