PRO'S AND CON'S on MSI Z77A Mobo

[Scrapps]

hi gise.. as i stated in a previous thread a while back im going to get a new system from the ground up.. im not looking for the best on the market but it must be capable of performing quite well.. will be running the latest games with high settings 1920x1080 res and so on...

please tell me what you think of this motherboard as it has a good price and seems to be able to keep up with the surrounding hardware.. would appreciate your thoughts on it.. THIS IS THE MOTHERBOARD:
MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Z77 Desktop Motherboard - Wootware
and are there any major differences between that MOBO and this one?
GIGABYTE Z77X-UD3H, all-in-one LGA1155, Intel Z77, 4x dual channel DDR3 2666, 2x [GA-Z77X-UD3H] - R1,756 : Rebel Tech

MY Surrounding Specs with prices: (prices are not exact)

Video Card:
MSI GeForce GTX560Ti Twin Frozr II OC 1GB
R2700
OR GTX570 (if i have the cash then)

Memory/RAM:
8GB (Dual slot)
DDR3 1600
R600-8GB

CPU/Processor:
Intel Core i5-2500k Sandy Bridge
R2200

Motherboard:
MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Z77 Desktop Motherboard
R1400

Power Supply:
650w
R900

23" LED monitor
R1800

Thanks a lot

 

[PancakesZA]

http://www.carbonite.co.za/f10/ivy-bridge-bundle-29940/

There you go.

 

[Scrapps]

http://www.carbonite.co.za/f10/ivy-bridge-bundle-29940/

There you go.

although yours is a better deal im rather going new for my own personal satisfactory... good luck though.

So any thoughts on the MSI Z77A motherboard?

 

[Oj0]

Well even the GD65 sucks, so a big do not want from me.

When they blow they like to take chips.

 

[rav3n72]

^^^ What he said. My experience with MSI is that they don't last and when they die they take your cpu with them. Especially a nono if you overclock.

I would say go for a gigabyte or asus. I also heard so good stuff from the Asrock Z77 boards, but I haven't had a asrock yet so I can't comment on that.

All I can say is that I won't allow a MSI board in my house, not even for a media center. Their graphics cards on the other hand is a completely different story.

 

[Oj0]

I also think boards sporting the GD70 or GD80 moniker are a lot better.

 

[Scrapps]

thank you everyone.. i will definatly not get the msi board then.. ok so are these two better options? which one would you go for?? and why?
ASRock > Products > Z77 Extreme4
OR...
GIGABYTE Z77X-UD3H, all-in-one LGA1155, Intel Z77, 4x dual channel DDR3 2666, 2x [GA-Z77X-UD3H] - R1,756 : Rebel Tech

 

[inn3rs3lf]

Pffft

I have used msi for 5 years now, on my 3rd different board. Not once has mine blown. At the moment I have the Z77A-G65 and it is an awesome board!

There are may reviews on the board on the net, and I have yet to find one that states its a dodgy board.

 

[Oj0]

Hahahaha, seriously now? You know reviewers don't spend more than a few days on a board, right? Reviews are NEVER reflective of long term stability. So far this forum has had four dead Z77A-GD65s and a dead 990FXA-GD65 - at least three of those deaths have taken a CPU with them.

Basing ANYTHING on your own experience only is a terrible idea. I've owned one IBM hard drive, it died within the first year. By my experience, that's a 100 % failure rate. Can I say that all IBM hard drives would fail within a year? Not a chance, other than their 75 GB DeathStar they were some of the most reliable. I've also had three Samsung hard drives which are more than three years old. By my own experience that's a 0 % failure rate, but can we say that a Samsung drive is 100 % guaranteed to last three years? Again, not at all. You need to look at the bigger picture, people around the world are having Z77A-GD65s fail - it's always a phase that pops and it normally kills the chip.

 

[inn3rs3lf]

Then unfortunately those users had bad boards from the get go, as in ANY product on the market.

EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT released will have failures. Your board included. Now, with that being said, who's experience would you go with? Therefore MY experience is the only viewpoint I will give.

 

[Dwarrowdelf]

Utter bullcrap! I've had MSI's over the years. Not once did I have a bad experience. If some people had bad experience doesn't mean that they don't last. My last board which is being sold today is the P67-GD80. Been running 4.8 Ghz OC on air for months now. Replacing the board with the MSI z77-GD65. This board only has positive reviews.

 

[PancakesZA]

Msi GD80's are solid boards...its the ones below it that are crappy.
An anyway why would you buy the MSI if you can get a Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 for around R1700 and its a fantastic board.

 

[inn3rs3lf]

Msi GD80's are solid boards...its the ones below it that are crappy.
An anyway why would you buy the MSI if you can get a Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 for around R1700 and its a fantastic board.

Would have gone with the asrock but no one had them yet when I ordered my MSI. The asrock is a killer board!

 

[Oj0]

Compare the number of dead MSI Z77 boards to, say, the number of dead ASRock Z77 boards and you'll see why nobody wants to touch MSI with a barge-pole. As I said, going on your own experience only is a terribly stupid thing to do and I explained why in my previous post.

 

[Scrapps]

Then unfortunately those users had bad boards from the get go, as in ANY product on the market.

EVERY SINGLE PRODUCT released will have failures. Your board included. Now, with that being said, who's experience would you go with? Therefore MY experience is the only viewpoint I will give.

thanks to your thoughts on the matter too. appreciate your opinion

 

[Oj0]

Utter bullcrap! I've had MSI's over the years. Not once did I have a bad experience. If some people had bad experience doesn't mean that they don't last. My last board which is being sold today is the P67-GD80. Been running 4.8 Ghz OC on air for months now. Replacing the board with the MSI z77-GD65. This board only has positive reviews.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The GD70 and GD80 boards are alright, the GD65 and below are bad. By your reaction it's easy to tell you're posting based on your own experience only. Ironically, the board I recommend most often is Asus - the board I've had the most failures with is Asus (Rampage Extreme). The reason? If I step back and look at the bigger picture they make the best boards out there and my personal experience is not indicative of the brand.

It's a different story when out of five people I know in this country alone that have run GD65 (both Intel and AMD) boards, all five are now dead - and all five died by popping a phase.

 

[Scrapps]

ok so i ask again.. should this board be a good buy... ASRock Z77 Pro4 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Z77 Desktop Motherboard - Wootware
it doesnt say the G... so where do you look what category it falls under?

 

[Sarinaide]

Pros:

New chipset
New features

Cons:

New chipset, needs maturing and teething.
G43 is not overclock friendly. (should have a sticker over the board which states that the board is not endorsed by MSI for overclocking and the waivering of responsiblity for whatever may happen. Seen this on G43 and G55 MSI boards)

 

[Squidnite]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The GD70 and GD80 boards are alright, the GD65 and below are bad. By your reaction it's easy to tell you're posting based on your own experience only. Ironically, the board I recommend most often is Asus - the board I've had the most failures with is Asus (Rampage Extreme). The reason? If I step back and look at the bigger picture they make the best boards out there and my personal experience is not indicative of the brand.

It's a different story when out of five people I know in this country alone that have run GD65 (both Intel and AMD) boards, all five are now dead - and all five died by popping a phase.

Mine hasn't

Im very happy with the board, and if it breaks, hopefully warranty will sort it out Check this out: MSI Z77 Series Mainboards Lead The Global March Towards 7 GHz « News « FlyingSuicide.Net

 

[Oj0]

You're pointing at the wrong board here, he's asking about the G43

 

[reactor_sa]

Of all the boards I've used, I've had most instability issues with msi, never a single days problem with Asus for the last 4years.

 

[Squidnite]

You're pointing at the wrong board here, he's asking about the G43

yes, but you slandered GD65 over and over

 

[Scrapps]

i dont think anybody understands what im asking.. is the ASrock Z77 the one to go for... (i dont feel like making a new thread)
Heres the link:
ASRock > Products > Z77 Extreme4
tell me what you think....

 

[Oj0]

Yes it is.

As for having issues with MSI, the truth is that it's only their newest boards which are suddenly having issues. The MSI 790FX-GD70 was one of the best 790FX boards money could buy, more stable and easier to tune than even the ASUS Crosshair 3 (I've had both) and I'm not the only one to say so - chew* will tell you the same story. Their top end boards are still OK, other than the mess which is their UEFI. You have to have a degree in engineering to understand most of it

I've got little against MSI as a whole, the problem is their latest mid-range boards for both camps (Intel and AMD). Their Lightning graphics cards are second to none, even the Gigabyte Super OverClock cards pale in comparison.

jl10101, I recommended that board as it was the only Z77 board available at the time mainly thanks to MSI's complete disregard to NDAs. At the time the board was still too new to know about any potential issues. For you it's fine as like you said you have a warranty, but when you lose a golden CPU it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth, amplified if said CPU is an engineering sample without warranty. At the time it was also your only option, you couldn't wait for the ASUS or ASRock boards to become available.

 

[Sarinaide]

I had a great experience with the Z68A GD65 G3 board, but I see plenty folk having issues with the Z77 MSI boards (and others) which suggests it is more a chipset related problem, which can be ironed out.

 

[Oj0]

As I said, the latest generation. I wouldn't say it's a chipset issue, rather a cheap VRM issue as it's the VRM going on both the Z77 and 990FX boards.

I also wouldn't say it's a chipset issue as other AIB manufacturers aren't having the same issue.

 

[Flikka]

Just wanted to comment here on the Z77A GD65, mine is running fine so far no issues but if it does fail I will let everyone know. Running a 2500k (Ivy a bit later) water cooled @ 4.7 ghz 1.352 - 1.360 volts at load

 

[reaper84]

So glad I went with the gigabyte z77x-ud3h over the MSI g65

I heard the gigabyte had problems with SB chips but resolved them with a bios update.

If only the ASUS board were more available then I would have gone with them. Heard good things about ASUS