Noob friendly guru at Wootware to build a monster PC

[NemoXX7]

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I remember a certain vent thread in smack talk. Are we making a connection here?

 

[PaladinLaw]

Sorry man, seems I am coming across as such a prick. I did laugh at your comment

Our company is Austrian and we only do intel. I7 is for the entry level pc’s. So ours are i9, then (and I see it’s controversial) but our entire IT team only deals in 4090.

So with a motherboard and some ram and nvme I’m stuck closer to 80 I think.

I’m starting to think I need a radiator for cpu and radiator for GPU. No RGB and basic fans in front and back?

No worries.

Your original post and choice of hardware makes more sense now.

I still feel it's overkill. Very few people actually need i9's and 4090's. But if that's industry standard for your company then so be it, who am I to argue.

I STRONGLY suggest speaking with @Oj0 Over at progenix.

He's a great guy, with solid knowledge. Will be able to give you the best advise for your build without ripping you off, and put it all together in a neat package for you.

progenix.co.za

 

[PaladinLaw]

No worries.

Your original post and choice of hardware makes more sense now.

I still feel it's overkill. Very few people actually need i9's and 4090's. But if that's industry standard for your company then so be it, who am I to argue.

I STRONGLY suggest speaking with @Oj0 Over at progenix.

He's a great guy, with solid knowledge. Well be able to give you the best advise for your build without ripping you off, and put it all together in a neat package for you.

progenix.co.za

Just to add, I can't promise whether or not he'll be the cheapest, i haven't compared prices. But some things can't be bought. With @Oj0 You'll receive a level of service that all other retailers should be held to. He is the golden standard imho

 

[Areola Grande]

Just to add, I can't promise whether or not he'll be the cheapest, i haven't compared prices. But some things can't be bought. With @Oj0 You'll receive a level of service that all other retailers should be held to. He is the golden standard imho

Agree with this fully.

 

[JayDoubleYou]

100%. Defintely recommend Progenix.

Not sure where you are but if you are in CPT (Durbanville) I can help with the build.

 

[Oj0]

We've already taken it to PM and I've made a ton of suggested changed - basically everything other than the CPU and GPU.

Different case for better airflow, different PSU for native PCIe 5.0

Different motherboard as there's nothing to gain with such a high end board

Different RAM as 32GB high frequency memory is going to be clobbered by 64GB slightly lower frequency memory with intensive tasks (if there's a need for a Core i9, there's a need for more than 32GB - 32GB only gives 2GB per thread even ignoring the E-cores, which would drop it down to 1.3GB/thread)

Different SSD (much faster)

Different thermal paste which has a higher thermal conductivity and lower price

Potentially different AIO to save on a mess of wires

Potentially different OS unless features from Pro are actually required.

 

[Oj0]

I still feel it's overkill. Very few people actually need i9's and 4090's. But if that's industry standard for your company then so be it, who am I to argue.

This is something which is VERY difficult to comment on. As an example, one of the apps he mentioned requires 8GB RAM. Sure, that's the requirement for it to work, not for it to be efficient with a large project.

Anecdotal examples, but Photoshop CS6 requires 1GB RAM. Opening a large file from NVIDIA can increase RAM usage to nearly 100% with a 20GB page file on top of it. The last file they sent was a 3GB PSB which took around 8 minutes to decompress and open. 4GB RAM sounds like 4x the requirements and it should fly, but I'd die if I had to try it on 4GB - hell I'd probably still be working on the Diablo IV promo (which ended several weeks ago) banner.

My wife uses Silhouette Cameo for vinyl cuttting which requires an AMD quad core and 4GB RAM. She's running a 6-core AMD with 16GB RAM, and when working on a large, complex file, she's frustrated to tears as scrolling can occur at around half a frame per second.

When it comes to this sort of software, never let the base system requirements be a deciding factor unless you're on an extremely tight budget and need to get away with the bare minimum. You never know, the requirement might be an i3 and 8GB RAM but a complex enough project could still be bottlenecked by a multi-CPU workstation with 512GB RAM.

 

[PaladinLaw]

This is something which is VERY difficult to comment on. As an example, one of the apps he mentioned requires 8GB RAM. Sure, that's the requirement for it to work, not for it to be efficient with a large project.

Anecdotal examples, but Photoshop CS6 requires 1GB RAM. Opening a large file from NVIDIA can increase RAM usage to nearly 100% with a 20GB page file on top of it. The last file they sent was a 3GB PSB which took around 8 minutes to decompress and open. 4GB RAM sounds like 4x the requirements and it should fly, but I'd die if I had to try it on 4GB - hell I'd probably still be working on the Diablo IV promo (which ended several weeks ago) banner.

My wife uses Silhouette Cameo for vinyl cuttting which requires an AMD quad core and 4GB RAM. She's running a 6-core AMD with 16GB RAM, and when working on a large, complex file, she's frustrated to tears as scrolling can occur at around half a frame per second.

When it comes to this sort of software, never let the base system requirements be a deciding factor unless you're on an extremely tight budget and need to get away with the bare minimum. You never know, the requirement might be an i3 and 8GB RAM but a complex enough project could still be bottlenecked by a multi-CPU workstation with 512GB RAM.

Definitely a fair argument. I wasn't saying he didn't need it, just that it's overkill for most. If its company specs, then it's obviously needed, hence the who am I to argue, as I'm not in his field

 

[D3TTOL]

I remember a certain vent thread in smack talk. Are we making a connection here?

lol, definitely not the same person xD

 

[NemoXX7]

lol, definitely not the same person xD

Was just making sure lol