[Reseller] JAN 2023 PRE-ORDER: LiFePO₄WER Lithium Batteries

[ScottulusMaximus]

www.lifepower.za.com​

PRE-ORDER: LiFePO₄WER Lithium Batteries
Delivery April 2023
12V/24V/48V batteries with capacities of 100Ah and 200Ah
View specs and model details on our website.

Pricing (inc VAT)
B12-100L: R6550
B12-200L: R11 400
B24-100L: R11 750
B24-200L: R20 500
S24-100R: R12 800
S24-200R: R22 000
S48-100R: R23 000
S48-200R: R40 000
G48-100W: R31 000
G48 200W: R54 500

BUY HERE: PRE-ORDER: LiFePO₄WER Lithium Battery - Scotts Shipping Service's

Pre-Order CLOSES Jan 31st 2023

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Reseller units will be available in February but with demand as it is there is no way they'll match it so I am opening another round of pre-orders!

This one will NOT experience the same delays as the previous shipment, that I can promise, we've discovered the kinks and ironed them out.

Don't miss out again! Closing date is the 31st, no orders can be accepted after this to avoid delaying the shipment.

Current pricing is around the MSRP of the models, however resellers are free to set their pricing. If you would like to join as a reseller please contact me and I'll get you the info pack, minimum order quantity is 10 units to get reduced bulk pricing.

 

[ForestGump]

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[ScottulusMaximus]

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[NI∀ƆOƆ‾⊥ᴚ∩ʞ]

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[ScottulusMaximus]

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[SFW-ZA]

does this include delivery like the previous

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

does this include delivery like the previous

Yes, all inclusive.

 

[AresFaithfull]

@ScottulusMaximus

If you could help me quick

We currently have 4x100ah AGM batteries, what would i need to look at here to do as a replacement.

We have an Ellies Inverter system that is a 3KVA though (Model No: FBI3000MP)

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

@ScottulusMaximus

If you could help me quick

We currently have 4x100ah AGM batteries, what would i need to look at here to do as a replacement.

We have an Ellies Inverter system that is a 3KVA though (Model No: FBI3000MP)

Can go with 4x12V either 100 or 200Ah, depends how much capacity you want but you will NEED a battery balancer, same with 2x 24V.

Or you could get a 48V unit so you have an upgrade path for the inverter in future.

 

[aiccc]

You rock Scott. Great comms. Got my email.

Thanks for making up for the long delivery time.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Hi,

Can you perhaps confirm something.
The config guide that was sent as an email attachment shows that max charge and discharge is recommended as 50A for the 48v Silver series. On the S48-200R though, that can be doubled to 100A correct? Its a .5C rating correct?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Hi,

Can you perhaps confirm something.
The config guide that was sent as an email attachment shows that max charge and discharge is recommended as 50A for the 48v Silver series. On the S48-200R though, that can be doubled to 100A correct? Its a .5C rating correct?

Both 100 and 200 will run at 100A all day everyday no problem. For longevity we recommend 50A, but yes you can hit the 200 harder as it's split across double the cells.

The 200Ah is 0.5C rated, always has been. If you want 200A discharge you'll need to go gold.

 

[Kreepy Crawly]

Will 2 of the B-12 100L drop in to the Geewiz trolley?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Will 2 of the B-12 100L drop in to the Geewiz trolley?

Electrically yes, WITH A BALANCER. Physically I think they're larger than the equivalent LA for the enclosure.

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Both 100 and 200 will run at 100A all day everyday no problem. For longevity we recommend 50A, but yes you can hit the 200 harder as it's split across double the cells.

The 200Ah is 0.5C rated, always has been. If you want 200A discharge you'll need to go gold.

Thanks. And on that note, my in-a-nutshell review :
Only got round to hooking it up today. Only because these things are damn heavy and I couldn't single handedly move it around. And I mean DAMN heavy. These are clearly dense cells which to me is a great sign. Came near fully charged. Amazing value for money. Will do a load test over the weekend but I'm certain the capacity will be exactly if not better than what's on the tin.
Currently using the USE settings with the specs sent out on email. Currently discharging as we have a 4.5 hour loadshedding slot right now. Putting it through its paces and it's definitely keeping pace.

@ScottulusMaximus - do you perhaps know which BMS tool I can use to monitor on PC? I'm thinking PBMS would probably work RS485 to USB?

Also, I saw you mention on another forum the BMS essentially emulates the Pylontech protocol, so any inverter that supports Pylon LV will just plug and play work. Is that correct?

If so, I'll make up a Pylontech CAN cable with the correct pinouts for my inverter and give that a go.

Will be taking up that offer of another one based on first order pricing. Thanks again for making that a reality.

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Thanks. And on that note, my in-a-nutshell review :
Only got round to hooking it up today. Only because these things are damn heavy and I couldn't single handedly move it around. And I mean DAMN heavy. These are clearly dense cells which to me is a great sign. Came near fully charged. Amazing value for money. Will do a load test over the weekend but I'm certain the capacity will be exactly if not better than what's on the tin.
Currently using the USE settings with the specs sent out on email. Currently discharging as we have a 4.5 hour loadshedding slot right now. Putting it through its paces and it's definitely keeping pace.

@ScottulusMaximus - do you perhaps know which BMS tool I can use to monitor on PC? I'm thinking PBMS would probably work RS485 to USB?

Also, I saw you mention on another forum the BMS essentially emulates the Pylontech protocol, so any inverter that supports Pylon LV will just plug and play work. Is that correct?

If so, I'll make up a Pylontech CAN cable with the correct pinouts for my inverter and give that a go.

Will be taking up that offer of another one based on first order pricing. Thanks again for making that a reality.

Yes they are heavy, trust me I know after a container of them! It's because we use the full 16 cell lay out instead of "insert other brands here" that essentially overvolt 15 cells.

I'll get back to you with the software, there's also an RS485 to USB card required if you want to connect to a PC that we won't be providing but is available.... I've used the software and it's terrible so not something customer facing but for the enthusiast I'll look into it. Accessing the BMS will however void warranty as you can literally change any parameter on the fly, not just monitor.

A CAN interceptor, I don't know a better term for it, could also be used to just read the data between the battery and inverter, this I can't give advice about but think cloud/link from well known brand.

"Emulate" is definitely the wrong term, our units just use the same CAN and RS485 pin outs, they do not identify as pylons, but yes the comms and cables "should" work if designed for pylons. This will depend on inverter. CAN/RS485 is a standard and not specific to any inverter or battery, it's all the same data.

ALWAYS check exact pin outs from our battery and your inverter docs, it's not always plug and play. Get these made up at a PC shop or contact me and I can send you the cable, I just need your EXACT inverters model number as this can even change between models of the same manufacturer.

Even with BMS comms I recommend following our values as per spec sheet manually and just use BMS for the temp, fault codes, state of charge and state of health etc.

You're very welcome for the special offer!

Scott

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

I'll get back to you with the software, there's also an RS485 to USB card required if you want to connect to a PC that we won't be providing but is available.... I've used the software and it's terrible so not something customer facing but for the enthusiast I'll look into it. Accessing the BMS will however void warranty as you can literally change any parameter on the fly, not just monitor.

A CAN interceptor, I don't know a better term for it, could also be used to just read the data between the battery and inverter, this I can't give advice about but think cloud/link from well known brand.

"Emulate" is definitely the wrong term, our units just use the same CAN and RS485 pin outs, theydo not identify as pylons, but yes the comms and cables "should" work if designed for pylons. This will depend on inverter. CAN/RS485 is a specified standard and not specific to any inverter or battery, it's all the same data.

ALWAYS check exact pin outs from our and your inverter docs, it's not always plug and play. Get these made up at a PC shop or contact me and I can send you the cable, I just need your EXACT inverters model number as this can even change between models of the same manufacturer.

Even with BMS comms I recommend following our values as per spec sheet manually and just use BMS for the temp, fault codes, state of charge and state of health etc.

You're very welcome for the special offer!

Scott

Only keen to monitor SOH, SOC and cycle count. Mostly SOC because I've noticed drift in the past in terms of what my inverter reports and what the actual BMS reports. Definitely not interested in making any adjustments.

Will PM you my inverter details and perhaps you can provide some insight on cable pinouts that could work. I've crimped a Pylontech CAN cable now that I got the pinouts details from my inverter manufacturer Wiki. Will give it a go tomorrow and see.

 

[DTBA]

Will you be adding the manual to the website for the batteries?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Will you be adding the manual to the website for the batteries?

Yes

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

bump

 

[Qui_Illustrati]

Question - are we doing rating and feedback for these purchases?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Question - are we doing rating and feedback for these purchases?

Dunno, @mod ?

 

[ovisser1]

I would assume its due after delivery, Then its just a normal purchase ?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

I would assume its due after delivery, Then its just a normal purchase ?

Pretty sure he's referring to the first batch that have already been delivered.

Oh and, bump....

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

bump

3 months is a bit of a wait but sure beats 3 years of loadshedding!

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Just a reminder that orders are closing in less than a week, don't miss out on the chance to say goodbye to loadshedding!

Buy LiFePO₄WER Lithium Batteries

LiFePO₄ Lithium Batteries available in 12V, 24V and 48V with 100Ah and 200Ah capacities. Free delivery included. Ideal for inverters or solar installations.

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[Harbinger2000]

Any recommended inverter for use with these batteries? I see it states compatible with most available brands, but just checking if one stands out above the rest?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

Any recommended inverter for use with these batteries? I see it states compatible with most available brands, but just checking if one stands out above the rest?

Depends what voltage you're looking at? We've got them running on everything from a 16kW Sunsynk to a bid or buy 500W "special".

So you can go with whatever inverter best suits your purpose, they'll be compatible.

 

[Harbinger2000]

Depends what voltage you're looking at? We've got them running on everything from a 16kW Sunsynk to a bid or buy 500W "special".

So you can go with whatever inverter best suits your purpose, they'll be compatible.

Thank you. was looking at the 48 volt batteries.