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I was thinking that for the Boom Pro on headphones that don't use 3.5mm jack you could 3D print a simple little bracket that you could stick to the headphones that then holds the boom pro. Could just have a 3,5mm suitable hole in it that you could plug the boom pro into. Just a thought seeing as it's about half the cost or less than mod mic. I've ordered a boom pro for the SHP9500 so I will design something in-line with this plan to try with the 6XX and share results here.
.......why on earth would such a thing make a proper electronic connection?
 
.......why on earth would such a thing make a proper electronic connection?
I assume you would be running two cables in this scenario, like with AntLion.

Just a bracket that the boompro plugs into to keep it on the headset. Then run it to your split/cable/adapter to get the mic part of the TRRS cable. The normal headphone cables still run as is.
 
I assume you would be running two cables in this scenario, like with AntLion.

Just a bracket that the boompro plugs into to keep it on the headset. Then run it to your split/cable/adapter to get the mic part of the TRRS cable. The normal headphone cables still run as is.

Oh like that. Hmm, I wonder whether that would work.
 
I assume you would be running two cables in this scenario, like with AntLion.

Just a bracket that the boompro plugs into to keep it on the headset. Then run it to your split/cable/adapter to get the mic part of the TRRS cable. The normal headphone cables still run as is.

Panda gets it...;)
 
Oh like that. Hmm, I wonder whether that would work.
The 'dummy' female fitting (bracket that is 3d printed?) should just be at the right place, then it will work.

Going to be interesting on the HD6XX, keen to see what solution he comes up with.
 
The 'dummy' female fitting (bracket that is 3d printed?) should just be at the right place, then it will work.

Going to be interesting on the HD6XX, keen to see what solution he comes up with.

No but I mean that's not how the BoomPro cable expects to terminate? The Antlion does and completes the circuit in it's parts. The BoomPro however expected to carry on and complete it's circuit in the headphone...im not sure it's "live" just plugged into a mic port.
 
I am slowly falling more and more in love with my HD650/uDSD pairing. So good!
Very good pairing. I’ve spent the week with the 600 vs 650 on the R2R11 and the Deckard. Although I certainly see (hear) why the 600 gets the critical acclaim it does, and why there is such a love-hate relationship between users of the 2 headphones, I prefer the 650, even if only marginally. I really enjoyed my time with the 600 though, and when the time is right I’d like to have one on hand.
 
No but I mean that's not how the BoomPro cable expects to terminate? The Antlion does and completes the circuit in it's parts. The BoomPro however expected to carry on and complete it's circuit in the headphone...im not sure it's "live" just plugged into a mic port.
The only thing that will be live on the speaker end will be the ground. The left and right channels will have nothing going through them, so it does not matter. It does not need to terminate, as the only cables that we care about at that point is already terminated at the microphone.

Edit: It's a tip-ring-ring-sleeve cable. One ground, one left channel, one right channel, and a mic. The left and right channel does not not need to be terminated for the mic and ground to still complete its circuit.
 
The only thing that will be live on the speaker end will be the ground. The left and right channels will have nothing going through them, so it does not matter. It does not need to terminate, as the only cables that we care about at that point is already terminated at the microphone.

Edit: It's a tip-ring-ring-sleeve cable. One ground, one left channel, one right channel, and a mic. The left and right channel does not not need to be terminated for the mic and ground to still complete its circuit.

Ah ok.
 
Very good pairing. I’ve spent the week with the 600 vs 650 on the R2R11 and the Deckard. Although I certainly see (hear) why the 600 gets the critical acclaim it does, and why there is such a love-hate relationship between users of the 2 headphones, I prefer the 650, even if only marginally. I really enjoyed my time with the 600 though, and when the time is right I’d like to have one on hand.
So difficult to put their differences into words. You did the right thing to A/B test them over a period of time. I'm glad you came to the conclusion that you prefer your HD650...

But don't lie, you kind of want a HD600 now as well. For those days you get tired of the HD800S. :p
 
No but I mean that's not how the BoomPro cable expects to terminate? The Antlion does and completes the circuit in it's parts. The BoomPro however expected to carry on and complete it's circuit in the headphone...im not sure it's "live" just plugged into a mic port.

I don't think there is anything fancy going on there. The mic and headphone channels will be separate and can work independently. Attach the splitter to the other end and only plug in the Mic and off you go.

For the 3D printed bracket I am 100% sure I can design something it's just a matter of doing it in an elegant way. I was thinking make it as compact as possible and have a small recess for a magnet. Super glue the magnet in there and smack it straight onto the grille of the 6XX like a Mod Mic. I am sure double sided tape, velcro, or a non-permanent cement will work too but like the magnet idea.
 
I don't think there is anything fancy going on there. The mic and headphone channels will be separate and can work independently. Attach the splitter to the other end and only plug in the Mic and off you go.

For the 3D printed bracket I am 100% sure I can design something it's just a matter of doing it in an elegant way. I was thinking make it as compact as possible and have a small recess for a magnet. Super glue the magnet in there and smack it straight onto the grille of the 6XX like a Mod Mic. I am sure double sided tape, velcro, or a non-permanent cement will work too but like the magnet idea.

Well, if were going to be permanently/semi-permanently attaching something to the headphone then there should be no problem.

Just print a housing for a dummy female 3.5mm receiver. Clip/epoxy//fix the receiver to the bracket. Stick bracket to headphone. Plug boompro into receiver?
 
Well, if were going to be permanently/semi-permanently attaching something to the headphone then there should be no problem.

Just print a housing for a dummy female 3.5mm receiver. Clip/epoxy//fix the receiver to the bracket. Stick bracket to headphone. Plug boompro into receiver?

That's exactly the plan :) . May be able to print a suitable hole in the bracket though with a snug fit eliminating need for female receiver. And keeping things more compact.
 
I know many of u guys ave some insane gear but would it not make alittle more sense to have 2 sets.

X2 with boompro and say hd 800/hd6xx or fostex.

One for gaming and one for music?
I am considering this as fotex has thoae funny connectors on each side.

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So difficult to put their differences into words. You did the right thing to A/B test them over a period of time. I'm glad you came to the conclusion that you prefer your HD650...

But don't lie, you kind of want a HD600 now as well. For those days you get tired of the HD800S. :p
The 600 is more clinical, which may come across to some as a "thinner" sound. I don't agree with some naysayers about the 600 lacking in the bass department.I think it is just right, and sits very well in the mix if you prefer a neutral signature. The 600 presents more treble detail, but on my AB'ing it was not worlds apart. I prefer the laid back sound of the 650 with its elevated bass and rolled off highs. Maybe the Deckard played a role, as it seems to do wonders with both bass and treble.

About the 800S... will give it some loving over the weekend, really looking forward to that. My gut feel is that the 650 is the better complimentary set to keep alongside an 800S, given it's warmth. Time will tell...
 
The 600 is more clinical, which may come across to some as a "thinner" sound. I don't agree with some naysayers about the 600 lacking in the bass department.I think it is just right, and sits very well in the mix if you prefer a neutral signature. The 600 presents more treble detail, but on my AB'ing it was not worlds apart. I prefer the laid back sound of the 650 with its elevated bass and rolled off highs. Maybe the Deckard played a role, as it seems to do wonders with both bass and treble.

About the 800S... will give it some loving over the weekend, really looking forward to that. My gut feel is that the 650 is the better complimentary set to keep alongside an 800S, given it's warmth. Time will tell...
Fair thoughts!

Looking forward to your HD800S views.
(drop me a PM when you sell your R2R11)
 
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Sitting with the SHP9500s now. Interesting situation. They actually have a very similar sound signature to the GSP600s in terms of where the emphasis lies. They obviously have a wider soundstage and more "airy" being an open set. Bass is actually much better than I expected. Neither headphone is meant for a deep rumble but thought the GSP would be miles ahead here. Bit more "sizzle" to the high end and recessed a fraction here compared to GSP600 (which is a good thing) but definitely has more sibilance.

In gaming the SHP seems to have a more washed out sound especially when it comes to gunshots. At least with early testing imaging seems about the same in gaming, I can easily tell direction with either headphone but I think perhaps when it comes to separation and judging of distance the SHP does better due to it's open design. I will have to do much more testing though but at this stage the GSP seems like the more immersive option, it really does sound great in games. In terms of overall music sound quality I don't think I could pick a winner yet they're just...different. This was all done on the uDSD so I may have to check things out with the onboard sound for those looking at these as a budget all-rounder.

As for build quality on the SHPs, they seem well enough made but don't hold a candle to the Sennheisers. Comfort wise the SHPs are nice and light with very little clamping force. Add the decent headband and they can definitely be worn indefinitely. The ear pads aren't great though, they aren't very deep so my left ear touches slightly on the driver which is a mild annoyance. The pad material certainly isn't very luxurious either, then again I am coming from the amazing ear pads that the GSP has. I reckon an earpad upgrade on these would be a nice touch. Overall they definitely sound very good to someone busy putting his toe into the rabbit hole considering their price. I am sure for someone looking at something cheaper for gaming and music these would work well, certainly FAAAAR better for music than something like a Corsair Void that costs about the same. Bit unfair of me using a pair of Sennheiser gaming headsets for a comparison.

Not sure if they will improve/change as they burn in (If that's even a real thing). Anyway I will listen to them for a long stint before drawing further conclusions. Have to say though once the 6XXs arrive these may become a bit redundant and I may just sell them unless they turn out to give me an edge in gaming. But seeing as GSPs have a great built in mic and build I reckon it's going to take a lot to replace them. Fidelio X2 or DT990 comes to mind but for now I am going to worry more about music with the audiophile headphone side of things and just switch to old faithful for gaming.

Have to say I'm extremely excited for the 6XX's , I reckon the "smoother" more laid back tone they're known for is going to suit me well.

 
Sitting with the SHP9500s now. Interesting situation. They actually have a very similar sound signature to the GSP600s in terms of where the emphasis lies. They obviously have a wider soundstage and more "airy" being an open set. Bass is actually much better than I expected. Neither headphone is meant for a deep rumble but thought the GSP would be miles ahead here. Bit more "sizzle" to the high end and recessed a fraction here compared to GSP600 (which is a good thing) but definitely has more sibilance.

In gaming the SHP seems to have a more washed out sound especially when it comes to gunshots. At least with early testing imaging seems about the same in gaming, I can easily tell direction with either headphone but I think perhaps when it comes to separation and judging of distance the SHP does better due to it's open design. I will have to do much more testing though but at this stage the GSP seems like the more immersive option, it really does sound great in games. In terms of overall music sound quality I don't think I could pick a winner yet they're just...different. This was all done on the uDSD so I may have to check things out with the onboard sound for those looking at these as a budget all-rounder.

As for build quality on the SHPs, they seem well enough made but don't hold a candle to the Sennheisers. Comfort wise the SHPs are nice and light with very little clamping force. Add the decent headband and they can definitely be worn indefinitely. The ear pads aren't great though, they aren't very deep so my left ear touches slightly on the driver which is a mild annoyance. The pad material certainly isn't very luxurious either, then again I am coming from the amazing ear pads that the GSP has. I reckon an earpad upgrade on these would be a nice touch. Overall they definitely sound very good to someone busy putting his toe into the rabbit hole considering their price. I am sure for someone looking at something cheaper for gaming and music these would work well, certainly FAAAAR better for music than something like a Corsair Void that costs about the same. Bit unfair of me using a pair of Sennheiser gaming headsets for a comparison.

Not sure if they will improve/change as they burn in (If that's even a real thing). Anyway I will listen to them for a long stint before drawing further conclusions. Have to say though once the 6XXs arrive these may become a bit redundant and I may just sell them unless they turn out to give me an edge in gaming. But seeing as GSPs have a great built in mic and build I reckon it's going to take a lot to replace them. Fidelio X2 or DT990 comes to mind but for now I am going to worry more about music with the audiophile headphone side of things and just switch to old faithful for gaming.

Have to say I'm extremely excited for the 6XX's , I reckon the "smoother" more laid back tone they're known for is going to suit me well.


Are you using the same volume on both? The SHPs likely need 10 more points or so (considering more sound escapes).
 
It only just occurred to me I'm cheating if I listen to sound demos with my GSX in 7.1 mode. I'm giving the headphones body where they have none. That's not what I am gonna hear if ever connect them to an R2R or the like.
Need to remember to switch to 2.1 mode if I check any sound demos from now on.
 
Give the SHP more.

More? I'll go deaf haha. I push both till comfortable rather loud listening volume. Been really enjoying the SHP for the last hour or so and then switched back to GSP mid song. The GSP does sound a bit more natural and smooth to me. With the GSP the snare sounds amazing with serious wack where as with the SHP the cymbals are accentuated a more. SHP has more "sparkle" and hiss high up and GSP does the mids especially well and has a slightly warmer signature. A guitar solo on the SHP really tears through the mix very nicely though I must say. I reckon it's definitely down to taste and the music you listen to. To me both sound great it's going to be very interesting to compare with a known entity when I get the 6XX.
 

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