Extend Wifi to second building

[Doom5003]

So a friend of mine is looking at extending their uncapped internet to the flat they have on their property, not sure how far, probably about 100m or so.
Now i have no exp with these things so would like some advice as to what products would work? Not looking for the most expensive, they just want something that is cheap-ish, something that wont break the bank, since they wont be making money from it, it would be and "extra" free service if you could call it that.

I have been looking at the following: MikroTik SXTsq 2.4GHz 10dBi Outdoor CPE | RBSXTsq2nD

Any advice would be much appreciated.

And secondly, should we use outdoor network cables when connecting the unit or would basic cable work? We dont have a lot of rain but it does get quite hot in the summer times.

 

[solz]

I would not really recommend mikrotik unless you wanted to configure some special routes or other settings.
depending what they already have would have sticked to something similar.

but I use ubiquity and having an AP clos to where the flat is would probably do it then.

if you running cable to the flat, if its mostly covered should be a big issue using normal cat5e cable.
I have one that I used on a roof at my work in pta its getting plenty of rain and sun and its still okay just don't look grey but working still after 4y. -but then if you going cable to they buy a cheap adsl router that has wifi that would also have worked and probably cheaper than the mtk router.

 

[gilani777]

CAT 6 cable (<100m) + R350 router will do what you need.

 

[luke.peter88]

I used ubiquity nano devices for home to home connection with good success...

Do you have los?

 

[umarus]

Used my TPlink wifi extender (was lying around) as access point to connect a router with 20m cable. It's just until lockdown is over.

 

[RandomSheepZA]

So a friend of mine is looking at extending their uncapped internet to the flat they have on their property, not sure how far, probably about 100m or so.
Now i have no exp with these things so would like some advice as to what products would work? Not looking for the most expensive, they just want something that is cheap-ish, something that wont break the bank, since they wont be making money from it, it would be and "extra" free service if you could call it that.

I have been looking at the following: MikroTik SXTsq 2.4GHz 10dBi Outdoor CPE | RBSXTsq2nD

Any advice would be much appreciated.

And secondly, should we use outdoor network cables when connecting the unit or would basic cable work? We dont have a lot of rain but it does get quite hot in the summer times.

So, if you going to run a cable to the flat, then run it in conduit and if possible, bury it. Its never recommened to just run cable outdoors but if you do, then would suggest the above.

You don't need any fancy equipment, just get an AP and setup an SSID for it.
You might be able to go a step further and set up some restrictions on the router for bandwidth shaping. That is dependent on what you have.

You can however got for a point to point solution from Ubiquity annd then put an AP in the flat but thats gonna cost more money than its worth.

Hit me up if you need some more advise. Always happy to help.

 

[Eon]

I am with @gilani777 on this one. We did this a while back. Laid an ethernet cable 20cm under the ground to the apartment. By far the single most stable solution.

And by laid I mean a very crappily dug mini trench.

I also then through my Asus-86u router then bandwidth limited the mac addresses originating from the apartment.

 

[SuperLlama]

Yeah. Lan cable. I'm using a 85m one and it was the most hassle free solution.

 

[Doom5003]

Thanks for the advice guys. Will be looking at laying a cable. Seems to be the most cost effective solution as well as ease of use.

 

[HolyCowImAnoOb]

Thanks for the advice guys. Will be looking at laying a cable. Seems to be the most cost effective solution as well as ease of use.

wifi powerline extender - Google Search

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No labour, No trenches, Plug and play

 

[gilani777]

wifi powerline extender - Google Search

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No labour, No trenches, Plug and play

I am currently using these devices but more than 30m away will be problematic. Also since it's a second building it will most likely be on a different set of mains

 

[HolyCowImAnoOb]

I am currently using these devices but more than 30m away will be problematic. Also since it's a second building it will most likely be on a different set of mains

HARDWARE FEATURES
Plug Type	EU, UK, US, AR
Standards and Protocols	HomePlug AV, IEEE802.3, IEEE802.3u, IEEE802.11b/g/n
Interface	2*10/100Mbps Ethernet Port
Button	Pair, Reset, Wi-Fi/Wi-Fi Clone
Power Consumption	Maximum: 7.608W (220V/50Hz) Typical: 7.216W (220V/50Hz) Standby: 4.610W (220V/50Hz)
LED Indicator	PWR, PLC, ETH, Wi-Fi/Wi-Fi Clone
Dimensions ( W x D x H )	TL-WPA4220: 2.1 x 1.6 x 3.7 in. (54 × 40 × 94 mm) TL-PA4010: 2.0 × 1.1 × 2.6 in. (52 × 28.5 × 65 mm)
Range	300 Meters over electrical circuit

Obviously it depends on what you go for.

TL-WPA4220KIT | 300Mbps AV600 Wi-Fi Powerline Extender Starter Kit | TP-Link South Africa

300Mbps AV600 Wi-Fi Powerline Extender Starter Kit

www.tp-link.com

From my experience the secondary rooms usually run off the same DB board.

 

[RandomSheepZA]

Powerline kits can't traverse earth leakage.
So if the cottage has its own DB then this won't work unfortunately.


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[Doom5003]

@Random_Sheep @HolyCowImAnoOb I do believe the cottage has its own DB, if memory doesnt fail me.

Just of note, they have one of those small wifi range extenders in their house, and with that the wifi range reaches about halfway to the cottage, not sure if this helps in any way.

 

[RandomSheepZA]

Honestly you just going to have shit with that.
Run the cable and be done with it.

It's also the cheapest solution

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[Doom5003]

Run the cable and be done with it.

Would it really matter if i use "indoor" cable that will be place in a small trench as appose to shielded "outdoor" cable?

 

[RandomSheepZA]

Shielded will always be better but if you putting it in pvc u wouldn't worry.

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[Rickster]

Are there any houses in between?

 

[Doom5003]

Are there any houses in between?

Nope, clear LOS.

 

[Rickster]

Nope, clear LOS.

Good, nobody likes a twat that blasts Wi-Fi across the 'hood.

2.4gHz congestion is a crying shame.

 

[kyuubi64]

Thanks for the advice guys. Will be looking at laying a cable. Seems to be the most cost effective solution as well as ease of use.

Ja, just remember when buying a 100m roll/reel to get solid copper. Not that CCA(copper cladded aluminium) wire, it may be one third the price but it'll most likely give you headaches in the long run.

 

[souljazk]

CAT 6 cable (<100m) + R350 router will do what you need.

Just avoid CCA cable at all cost. CCA will be cabled as such and will be very cheap VS other cable. If I HAD to I would only use CCA for short patch panels. Also NEVER use CCA for PoE...

 

[PaladinLaw]

Just avoid CCA cable at all cost. CCA will be cabled as such and will be very cheap VS other cable. If I HAD to I would only use CCA for short patch panels. Also NEVER use CCA for PoE...

@souljazk why with the necros

 

[souljazk]

@souljazk why with the necros

Catching up , been offline from carbs since pre lockdown.

 

[abd]

We've done a 50m link (couldn't dig a cable) using a set of Ubiquiti nanoStation Loco. Working perfectly. Not badly priced either. Very easy to setup.

Heres the link

Ubiquiti UISP airMAX Loco AC 5GHz 13dBi Radio | LOCO5AC

Ubiquiti's LOCO-5ACL is an airMAX AC 5GHz radio with a 13dBi antenna. It is designed as a lightweight, cost-effective, short-distance CPE (client premises equipment), PtP (point to point) solution or PtMP (point to multipoint) solution.

scoop.co.za

 

[farhaadb]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a friend with a similar requirement, although with a few restrictions.

So her brother is in the main building with his internet set up. She stays in an outbuilding, let's say around 50m away. She doesn't want to have cabling extending throughout his home.

I was thinking what could work is some wireless AP that goes to his router not more than a meter or two away (due to cabling constraints). Then something to connect wirelessly from his building facing her's to this AP, and then another AP on her side. Not sure if this is the most cost effective solution within these constraints.

Can any of you recommend something better with this requirement? Or is my idea fine? If so, which cost effective devices would work for this? I am not too clued up on what's available on the networking side.

 

[RandomSheepZA]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a friend with a similar requirement, although with a few restrictions.

So her brother is in the main building with his internet set up. She stays in an outbuilding, let's say around 50m away. She doesn't want to have cabling extending throughout his home.

I was thinking what could work is some wireless AP that goes to his router not more than a meter or two away (due to cabling constraints). Then something to connect wirelessly from his building facing her's to this AP, and then another AP on her side. Not sure if this is the most cost effective solution within these constraints.

Can any of you recommend something better with this requirement? Or is my idea fine? If so, which cost effective devices would work for this? I am not too clued up on what's available on the networking side.

Honestly that isn't something I would recommend.
Especially if there are any walls between the router and the last wall of the main house.

Also you would be looking at 2 decent AP's and those aren't cheap.
My suggestion would be to get a cabling company to run a cable neatly in the wall or something like that of get connectivity installed in the outbuilding.

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[PsyWulf]

Sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a friend with a similar requirement, although with a few restrictions.

So her brother is in the main building with his internet set up. She stays in an outbuilding, let's say around 50m away. She doesn't want to have cabling extending throughout his home.

I was thinking what could work is some wireless AP that goes to his router not more than a meter or two away (due to cabling constraints). Then something to connect wirelessly from his building facing her's to this AP, and then another AP on her side. Not sure if this is the most cost effective solution within these constraints.

Can any of you recommend something better with this requirement? Or is my idea fine? If so, which cost effective devices would work for this? I am not too clued up on what's available on the networking side.

Cost effective and Wireless Point to Point won't necessarily go together
There's options for Unifi and Mikrotik that's building2building solutions,but its quite a few randelas

Are they running Unifi perhaps in the house? I've got some good results having Unifi UAPs mesh over a distance

 

[farhaadb]

Honestly that isn't something I would recommend.
Especially if there are any walls between the router and the last wall of the main house.

Also you would be looking at 2 decent AP's and those aren't cheap.
My suggestion would be to get a cabling company to run a cable neatly in the wall or something like that of get connectivity installed in the outbuilding.

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Thanks, I will check if I can convince her to go the cabling route.

Cost effective and Wireless Point to Point won't necessarily go together
There's options for Unifi and Mikrotik that's building2building solutions,but its quite a few randelas

Are they running Unifi perhaps in the house? I've got some good results having Unifi UAPs mesh over a distance

Nope, pretty sure they do not have Unifi in the house. I do think it will work out better and cheaper overall to just do the cabling professionally. Any suggestions on which AP to use on the other side of the network cable?