AMD Announces Ryzen 7000 Series with Boss performance [Editorial | Live]

[Gouhan]

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AMD is presently premiering their Ryzen 7000 series CPUs Slides from the on AMD Ryzen 7000 Series are presently online, for the ongoing launch event. AMD is presenting what I consider an incredible leap in performance and overall platform value. Platform for platform, it is safe to say AMD is winning, at least in terms of connectivity. A more detailed and video on everything revealed will follow of course, but right now this is simply about what’s being presented before us.

The existence or the B650E chipset is another interesting revelation. It appears this chipset has abilities absent on the X670, but of course present on the X670E. Mainly the ability to operate a Gen 5.0 GPU in tandem with a Gen 5 M.2 drive. For the other chipset SKUs, it’s an either-or scenario. I suspect all the major board vendors to have some sort of high-end SKU featuring this chipset, forgoing the vanilla X670 as it’s likely cheaper as well.

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[Gouhan]

Ohhh Radeon 7000 on Stage, RDNA3 is rather exciting, ADA better bring it

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Up to 40MB of cache per CCD and 5.7Ghz.

 

[Gouhan]

Up to 40MB of cache per CCD and 5.7Ghz.

Impressive clock frequencies for AMD. Just this alone was going to be enough to beat ADL-S and then some. Add all the other changes and it's simply amazing what AMD has been able to pull off.

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Impressive clock frequencies for AMD. Just this alone was going to be enough to beat ADL-S and then some. Add all the other changes and it's simply amazing what AMD has been able to pull off.

Yip the 7600x is a little expensive but the specs look good, I'm most excited for the motherboards as that'll be a big differentiator.

 

[Gouhan]

Yip the 7600x is a little expensive but the specs look good, I'm most excited for the motherboards as that'll be a big differentiator.

Well if you think about it AMD didn't increase the prices of the 7600X, 7700X and the 7900X over the previous generation 5600X/5800X and 5900X. The MSRP is identical at $299, $449 and $549 respectively. The Ryzen 9 7950X has actually reduced in price at $699 vs. to the 5950X which had an MSRP of $799.

Excited for the boards for sure at this point B650 Extreme has better connectivity than Z690 and potentially Z790.

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Well if you think about it AMD didn't increase the prices of the 7600X, 7700X and the 7900X over the previous generation 5600X/5800X and 5900X. The MSRP is identical at $299

Oh absolutely but 5600/x is at 180 dollars recently. And the 12400-12600k is cheap as well so it compares less favorably vs the current market pricing of components so more than a 30% price increase... Pricing will definitely come down at some point just bad now.

 

[Areola Grande]

Oh absolutely but 5600/x is at 180 dollars recently. And the 12400-12600k is cheap as well so it compares less favorably vs the current market pricing of components so more than a 30% price increase... Pricing will definitely come down at some point just bad now.

Not really if AMD’s claims are accurate. Yes, more expensive than the 5600X currently, but per their data it’s ~5% faster for gaming than a 12900k. If that’s true, it just became the best gaming CPU ever, all things considered.

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Not really if AMD’s claims are accurate. Yes, more expensive than the 5600X currently, but per their data it’s ~5% faster for gaming than a 12900k. If that’s true, it just became the best gaming CPU ever, all things considered.

It is and will stay a great product and they won't need to service the low end for awhile yet because the platform upgrade costs are higher. I'd pay 300 for it if I had the money and was looking to switch they're going to get flak for it as the entry price will be high and it is at the moment an entry level product.

 

[Areola Grande]

It is and will stay a great product and they won't need to service the low end for awhile yet because the platform upgrade costs are higher. I'd pay 300 for it if I had the money and was looking to switch they're going to get flak for it as the entry price will be high and it is at the moment an entry level product.

Yea, it’s all relative. It is entry-level in the stack; it’s just that it’s an entirely new level.

Can’t wait to not be able to afford one when they release.

 

[yourang]

So true!

 

[Gouhan]

At this point AMD has the platform and ecosystem advantage.
It is going to be cheaper to buy a B650E board, keep your current AM4 cooler, get high speed DDR5 and buy a Ryzen 5 7600X than it is to buy a 12900K.

 

[Gouhan]

Hmmm. X670E Landed.
The fun begins

 

[PsychoticKing]

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Hmmm. X670E Landed.
The fun begins

Mmm that`s pretty!

 

[Gouhan]

Hmmm

 

[Oj0]

Hmmm

Nia just had an aneurysm.

 

[Dr Evil]

Hmmm

I'm pretty sure we not allowed to post porn on the forum

 

[Areola Grande]

Hmmm

I don't think that's how you mount the CPU bru.

 

[ThatGuyJD]

Hmmm

I hope you never get the thermal paste off the substrate.

 

[Gouhan]

Some interesting observations thus far
My BIOS is early so I can't confirm this will be the case with the rest of the reviews coming out on Tuesday. Again I have an early BIOS and AGESA.
Idle temps like others have reported seem high for some reason, regardless of what cooler I used. Operating voltage is also higher than I expected out the box well over 1.3V (This could be UEFI/AGESA related as well). Load temps are also high, but the CPU still overclocks (that's another thing entirely, using offsets and curves for now)
DRAM, hmm, the set I'm using seems to do the same as on Z690 difference is I can get away with tighter timings at a lower voltage than I ought to be able to. i.e CL30 6400 @ near default voltage.

 

[Oj0]

DRAM, hmm, the set I'm using seems to do the same as on Z690 difference is I can get away with tighter timings at a lower voltage than I ought to be able to. i.e CL30 6400 @ near default voltage.

@affxct, get the tissues.

 

[dainluke]

@affxct, get the tissues.

I don't really see anything out of the norm. The kit I sold to @Cam Murltoe is on the X670E Master QVL so I already anticipated good Zen 4 IMCs to do 3200MHz. I even told him that it's a good option because he should have XMP availability. In my testing, Hynix can do up to 7000 at 1.4V or less depending on what kind of timings you use, but primaries don't really do anything on D5.

It's a cool new generation of CPUs for sure, but these days I'm on the side of being less argumentative about tech and also not getting too excited. If one has a base of knowledge, they should know what to expect. I don't really expect to be caught off guard by anything. Granted I decided to drink NVIDIA's kool-aid until I came to realise they no longer care about potential fines and lawsuits.

 

[Gouhan]

Soooo it's clear we have a competition on our hands between Intel's 13th Gen Core and AMD's Ryzen 7000. In power consumption, yes AMD definitely wins that one hands down. In performance however, especially single thread., well. Let's say INTEL is doing a lot better than I thought it would. In fact there's a single thread score in 3DMark (wont' say which test) that scores 1113 vs 1113 from 12900K, which during the test runs at a lower clock frequency than the Ryzen.

Either way, Best showdown between these two in decades.
5.7GHz+ AMD vs 5.8GHz+ INTEL

 

[Oj0]

Check @Genghis_Koen trying to be cool, not knowing the who or why but laughing anyway

In fact there's a single thread score in 3DMark (wont' say which test) that scores 1113 vs 1113 from 12900K, which during the test runs at a lower clock frequency than the Ryzen.

12900K, or 13900K? I assume the latter?

 

[Gouhan]

7900X vs 12900K both 1113
With AMD BIOS makes big differences. In my experience, the older BIOS right now is better than a new one, a lot better actually

 

[Gouhan]

Since all NDAs are lifted

Have at it. Best I can do. OC on AMD is hell