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Disti het vokolIs jy lekker gesuip?
Disti het vokolIs jy lekker gesuip?
ASUS, Gigabyte AND MSI DDR4 boards are at distis right now...Disti het vokol
Friday there was zero stock. Yesterday morning when I last checked there was nothing either.ASUS, Gigabyte AND MSI DDR4 boards are at distis right now...
Clearly checking the wrong places, as they've been in stock constantly for a few weeks now I know, cause I monitor their prices daily for combos and updating threads here on Carb.Friday there was zero stock. Yesterday morning when I last checked there was nothing either.
Wait stop right there. You mean to tell me the 8 E-cores without SMT are actually just 2 atom cores with 8 threads that report as 8 E-cores? Whaaaaat? Had you not said I literally would have never know haha. So in that regard the 12600K and 700K have 1 atom core?You're comparing 32 thread CPU with 24 thread CPU. So it's not always going to be a fair comparison.
If you want to compare clock for clock of an architecture simply compare 8 cores at fixed frequency then you'll be able to see which is better clock for clock.
As is Golden Cove (P-cores) have highest clock for clock performance on x86.
If you prefer I can prove it to you.
Turn off 1 CCD, then use just 8 at 4.5GHz I'll do the same here, so it'll be 8 core vs 8 core. I promise you Ryzen won't win a single test. I can be assured of this because I checked against 5800X and that was the result.
CPU for CPU of course the 5950X will come out faster in threaded results if only because of the thread count advantage.
5950X is 16 full cores, vs 8 cores and 2 tiny 8 thread atom cores, which can't clock much higher than 4 to 4.1GHz.
But don't take my word for it.
Set your 4.5, pick the benchmarks and we can see for ourselves.
3DMark CPU Profile
1 Thread - 1161 - 5950X @ 5.8GHz - spit051261`s 3DMark CPU PROFILE 1 THREAD score: 1161 marks with a Ryzen 9 5950X
1 Thread - 1191 - 12900K @ 5.5GHz -
OVIZ Hardware Lab`s 3DMark CPU PROFILE 1 THREAD score: 1195 marks with a Core i9 12900K (8P)
The Core i9 12900K (8P) @ 5500MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark CPU PROFILE 1 THREAD benchmark. OVIZ Hardware Labranks #null worldwide and #2 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.hwbot.org
300MHz deficient but higher score. Clock for clock, Alder laker got this.
Clearly checking the wrong places, as they've been in stock constantly for a few weeks now I know, cause I monitor their prices daily for combos and updating threads here on Carb.
My friend grabbed a 12700K and he can't notice much difference in gaming performance vs his 5600X, but this seems to be due to his RAM latency being 49ns, which seems to be because AORUS D4 boards are LITERALLY broken right now with regards to memory training. It is what it is . We're gonna see if the Z690-A Strix he just picked up actually does a proper job.So who has adopted? Keen to hear some personal experiences. Awaiting my parts. Bit the bullet and went DDR5 as there are no LGA 1700 DDR4 boards in stock right now and would rather just be on the safe side. Will rather pay the piper now and upgrade the RAM later when G.Skill at a lower CAS latency becomes available as opposed to have to have to buy a new board again later and only get 50% of the DDR4 board's value back when you have to sell it.
Well in terms of gaming performance it really depends. Some games they stick very closely together and in others the 12th gennies obliterate the Ryzen 5000's.My friend grabbed a 12700K and he can't notice much difference in gaming performance vs his 5600X, but this seems to be due to his RAM latency being 49ns, which seems to be because AORUS D4 boards are LITERALLY broken right now with regards to memory training. It is what it is . We're gonna see if the Z690-A Strix he just picked up actually does a proper job.
Warzone and Vanguard... I honestly was shocked too. I couldn't believe it. I'm fairly certain if his RAM latency drops to 40ns as it should be, performance will be out the wazoo.Well in terms of gaming performance it really depends. Some games they stick very closely together and in others the 12th gennies obliterate the Ryzen 5000's.
Intel Core i5-12600K Review - Winning Price/Performance
The Core i5-12600K is the price/performance king in the Intel Alder Lake lineup. With its competitive pricing of $300, it's a clear winner against AMD's Ryzen 5 5600X and faster than even the 5800X in many applications and games. This is the gaming CPU you want.www.techpowerup.com
Core i5 12600K processor review
With six performance cores and four energy-efficient ones, the Core i5 12600K might become the most budget-friendly and really well-performing Alder Lake series processor. It offers heaps of performan... Performance - Gaming RTX 3090 - 1920x1080 (Full HD)www.guru3d.com
Look I'm no expert when it comes to CAS latency. Reviews seems mixed in this regard too. Some say the (what seems to be very high) CAS latency on some of the current DDR5 chips don't make much of a difference while others say it does make a difference.Warzone and Vanguard... I honestly was shocked too. I couldn't believe it. I'm fairly certain if his RAM latency drops to 40ns as it should be, performance will be out the wazoo.
Haha no, it’s actually not that at all. We’re basically talking about two completely different things. He’s on DDR4 still on the Z690 Aorus Elite. Basically, the RAM access latency (the actual communication latency between the CPU and D4) is really high because the Z690 Aorus DDR4 boards are bugged and cannot train high freq, let alone train the memory properly at all.Look I'm no expert when it comes to CAS latency. Reviews seems mixed in this regard too. Some say the (what seems to be very high) CAS latency on some of the current DDR5 chips don't make much of a difference while others say it does make a difference.
From what I could see in Paul's Hardware's review in terms of gaming performance the CAS latency doesn't make much of a difference at all. 3FPS here and there.
Then you get others that just totally laments the DDR5 CAS latency.
But like I said, I ain't no expert.
PS: Seems like appropriate punishment for playing vanguard anyway. Just no. Vommit.
Nothing he said in there was news at all. Intel doesn't support 4 sticks at more than 4000. No QVLs have support for 4 sticks at any form of xmp either. Applies to DDR5 not DDR4 though.Jay made a vid about 12th gen RAM difficulties
Are any of you guys having RAM issues?
This will break D5 memory training on some CPUs. The VDD pin contact is paramount.If you peeps are getting high temps on your 12th gen check this.
Some kits plain have no QC and can be to blame in a lot of cases. It’s the most easy-to-pinpoint reason for D5 issues. Other issues are related to board BIOSs, IMC quality, and the architecture. It’s basically luck of the draw, and if you’re unlucky then you better get good at tweaking real quick.Jay made a vid about 12th gen RAM difficulties
Are any of you guys having RAM issues?