Market related salary for Full Stack Dev 7-8 years

[Itrooper]

Hi Carbs,

I am doing my own research on what my market related salary and thought to ask on Carb.

Some background I am a Full stack dev with 7-8 years experience. Main skills for day to day is C#, SQL, jQuery, HTML, CSS. There are others skills but more a now and then.

The average I have seen is 55k to 60k per month

 

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[Ironlionzion]

Hi Carbs,

I am doing my own research on what my market related salary and thought to ask on Carb.

Some background I am a Full stack dev with 7-8 years experience. Main skills for day to day is C#, SQL, jQuery, HTML, CSS. There are others skills but more a now and then.

The average I have seen is 55k to 60k per month

I mean, a lot of things will affect your salary. If you grafted your ass off and take massive amounts of initiative or if a ton of risk falls on your decisions then your salary will be more. However I have seen guys with a lot of experience on paper but little drive to do much (think about doing less that one ticket a day even if its really basic updates/adjustments), so experience itself is hard to judge value by. People also underestimate how valuable soft skills are, if you are likeable and make a good impression on people they will be psychologically inclined to see you as more valuable thus your salary prospects improve.

If this was me personally I would be sending out CV's daily and picking the best opportunities for interviews from my responses. Then I would do as many interviews as time allows and try my best to get more than one offer. If the offer is irresistible then take it, otherwise leverage it at your current job to get an increase as the offer is your market value. Then I would be applying for international work, the probability of landing something is small but if you are lucky your salary can double or triple.

 

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[Andrew_Smith]

From recent job opportunities:

 

[PJtheKILL3R]

From recent job opportunities:

From what I have seen, you need to be quite exceptional to break into the R80k+ band.

 

[Andrew_Smith]

Absolutely, @PJtheKILL3R - this is how the game is played in the development field. It is such a strong competition out there!

 

[Itrooper]

Thanks everyone, this question was asked after I did some research already was just curious to ask real people and not just read job offers from recruiters and others reseach.

Appreciate everyone's answers and suggetions will definitly look into then aswell!

 

[Thanatos_ZA]

From what I have seen, you need to be quite exceptional to break into the R80k+ band.

It's mostly the same in my field as well (DBA), overseas you can land a job that pays you R150-200k/month if you land one in the government sector of the US, but just about outside of that you are looking at 50-100k/month regardless.

 

[Gunner_ZA]

Mannn I think I should become a dev

 

[JIK]

Mannn I think I should become a dev

Most dev positions are not like this at all xD

A lot of companies either work you to death or want to pay you next to nothing.
A recent offer I turned down expected me to start working for them without a employment contract, They hadn't even given me the offer letter yet. When the contract eventually arrived alongside a offer of employment there was a lot of stuff in the contract that I didn't agree with and I had the offer for less than 48 hours and they called me telling me that I had to give them my decision by end of that business day(2nd day).
It was a 160 page contract and a quite a few things in that contract were very illegal.

 

[Zyetta]

Most dev positions are not like this at all xD

A lot of companies either work you to death or want to pay you next to nothing.
A recent offer I turned down expected me to start working for them without a employment contract, They hadn't even given me the offer letter yet. When the contract eventually arrived alongside a offer of employment there was a lot of stuff in the contract that I didn't agree with and I had the offer for less than 48 hours and they called me telling me that I had to give them my decision by end of that business day(2nd day).
It was a 160 page contract and a quite a few things in that contract were very illegal.

Could you name the company so we know who to blacklist and not waste time with? That sounds horrible.

 

[JIK]

Could you name the company so we know who to blacklist and not waste time with? That sounds horrible.

I'm not sure if that'd be wise. I could name the individual company but they are owned by a group that owns many other companies. The contract is handled by that group. They have at least 11 other companies they manage and not small ones either. Someone on here may be working for one of them.
Don't want to stir shit.

 

[el3venth]

Most dev positions are not like this at all xD

A lot of companies either work you to death or want to pay you next to nothing.
A recent offer I turned down expected me to start working for them without a employment contract, They hadn't even given me the offer letter yet. When the contract eventually arrived alongside a offer of employment there was a lot of stuff in the contract that I didn't agree with and I had the offer for less than 48 hours and they called me telling me that I had to give them my decision by end of that business day(2nd day).
It was a 160 page contract and a quite a few things in that contract were very illegal.

I had one of these. I had a decent contract, then they "updated" the contract. Gave me a copy to sign.
Then when I wanted to leave they were like, nope, your contract says you must give three months notice.
I was quite happy to show them that I never countersigned their updated contract and that only basic Employment Act rules applied. So four weeks was all they are going to get.

 

[madness_inc]

Most dev positions are not like this at all xD

A lot of companies either work you to death or want to pay you next to nothing.
A recent offer I turned down expected me to start working for them without a employment contract, They hadn't even given me the offer letter yet. When the contract eventually arrived alongside a offer of employment there was a lot of stuff in the contract that I didn't agree with and I had the offer for less than 48 hours and they called me telling me that I had to give them my decision by end of that business day(2nd day).
It was a 160 page contract and a quite a few things in that contract were very illegal.

What in the flying fuck? 160 pages? Was it a multi national body shop or a local one?

 

[JIK]

What in the flying fuck? 160 pages? Was it a multi national body shop or a local one?

As far as I'm aware the group has it's hand in all over Africa and possibly international countries as well.
It had a lot of fluff in there stating that I couldn't do anything against the interests of any of it's companies it owned and then it stated a bunch of the industries.
It also had a clause that for 5 years after employment ended I wouldn't be able start a company to directly compete against any of it's owned businesses either.
There was a range of things in there from expecting me to work base hours without compensation if they deem it necessary for any reason and they could take up to two weeks out of the monthly salary at the sole discretion of the company.
They also expected you to pay for half of your own work laptop/peripherals as incentive to not damage it. In that section it states you would get your money that you paid back upon return and inspection of the device BUT in the end of employment section it states that if the contract of employment ends for any reason from either side, the laptop is to be returned within 7 working days and you will not receive the 50% you paid for it because you're no longer employed by the company.
The leave days section was an absolute joke. If you applied for leave, which had to be two weeks in advance and it was granted but during the time from approval and your date of leave they were allowed to "cancel" it so you'd have to come in to work. You'd still lose a day as it's already been approved and it would be considered unpaid overtime because according to the company you shouldn't be working on that day therefore they won't compensate you. So it would end up with you forfeiting that leave.

The more I questioned it with them the more pushy they got for me to sign it and we can "discuss" it when I come into work until they called me and told me to make a decision by the end of the 2nd day.

 

[charlizelethia]

From what I have seen, you need to be quite exceptional to break into the R80k+ band.

This is basically why I've gone into management lol (still work on the complex code, and do a lot of the architecture planning myself) but realized breaking that band is much easier in management - I do also really enjoy product design and strategy though so it works out better for me ig

 

[charlizelethia]

What in the flying fuck? 160 pages? Was it a multi national body shop or a local one?

This is often the case, when i was desperate back in 2021 as a senior dev i took a 13k/m job working my ass off, OfferZen saving me and a few years, Im way further than I thought I would be. The dev market is very oversaturated rn, you need to be super good and able to work at a pretty fast pace tbh