Graphics Card Discussion From 3D Mark 11 Result thread

[PancakesZA]

Stock Clocks

i5 2500K + GTX680 No Lucid MVP

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i5 2500K + GTX680 + Lucid Mvp Enabled

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Will do OC'd runs later with 2700K + 3770K + 2500K + 7970 + 680 Sli + 7970 CF
On a side note...Although you don't notice the extra frames when gaming with lucid...the gaming experience as a whole is much smoother, so def worth running lucid.

On another side note...Both Nvidia and AMD drivers suck ass for sli680's and 7970 cf while playing BF3...tons of annyoing issues.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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Hey my 560s beat a 680 Glad I decided to wait for GK110

 

[PancakesZA]

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Hey my 560s beat a 680 Glad I decided to wait for GK110

lol Remember everything was stock

Will run it with a 3770K OC'D and GTX680 OC'D when I get home tonight...Gonna run over you're sli 560's without breaking a sweat
Oh and 2x MSI GTX680's laying here so can always pop them in lol

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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lol Remember everything was stock

Will run it with a 3770K OC'D and GTX680 OC'D when I get home tonight...Gonna run over you're sli 560's without breaking a sweat
Oh and 2x MSI GTX680's laying here so can always pop them in lol

Meh, considering my cards cost me like R3700 and a 680 costs like R6000 I think I made a better decision by waiting The 680 should be R4k since its a mid-range card !

 

[Oj0]

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Meh, considering my cards cost my dad like R3700 and a 680 costs like R6000 I think my dad made a better decision by waiting The 680 should be R4k since its a mid-range card !

Fixed that for you The GTX 680s can be had for R4k if you look in the right places

But on a similar note, your GTX 580s were going for about R5k when you got them, maybe more. GTX 460s were about R1200, why didn't you go for them?

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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Fixed that for you The GTX 680s can be had for R4k if you look in the right places

I lack the "contacts" that certain people have

But on a similar note, your GTX 580s were going for about R5k when you got them, maybe more.

Yeah, R5.5k per card. But those were top end cards, knowing theres a GK110 makes spending R6k a lot harder

GTX 460s were about R1200, why didn't you go for them?

GTX460s are too old Just wanted new 560s for their low age and warranty when I sell them off for a GK110. And the TFII coolers on my cards makes overclocking a breeze and its much quieter than my old 580s or 7970s incase Nvidia takes their time with the GK110 considering the still have the fastest single GPU on the market with the GTX680

 

[Oj0]

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I lack the "contacts" that certain people have

Oh it's not about contacts, any member of the public can buy from them.

Yeah, R5.5k per card. But those were top end cards, knowing theres a GK110 makes spending R6k a lot harder

There isn't a GK110 (link me to one?). Don't say it's coming, because we knew it was coming when you got the 580s. Right now we know Maxwell's coming, so why didn't you just hold out for GM100 / GM110? Terrible excuse

GTX460s are too old Just wanted new 560s for their low age and warranty when I sell them off for a GK110. And the TFII coolers on my cards makes overclocking a breeze and its much quieter than my old 580s or 7970s incase Nvidia takes their time with the GK110 considering the still have the fastest single GPU on the market with the GTX680

When you had a 580, the 460 was mid range from the previous generation. Now that the 680 is out, the 560 is... Mid range from the previous generation. Oops Sooooo... You're justifying your purchase rather than saying the GTX 680 is a bad card.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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When you had a 580, the 460 was mid range from the previous generation. Now that the 680 is out, the 560 is... Mid range from the previous generation. Oops Sooooo... You're justifying your purchase rather than saying the GTX 680 is a bad card.

I didnt say the GTX680 was a bad card, just that it shouldn't have the price of a flagship card since its not like a GTX580, its actually a GTX560TI at a GTX580 price. The GK110 is like the GTX580 and is coming up in the next few months. Maxwell is on a lower nm and a new architecture so no point in waiting for that since Kepler hardly has been released. Everyone buying a GTX680 is just going to end up selling it while making a loss and getting a GK110 (Im talking about the enthusiasts here, the ones that will want the best performance). I can already see into the future that once the GK110 is released and the rumoured performance/specs are right, I will most definately be getting one and I can almost bet that Ati will get one as well - maybe he'll even more than one like two or three

 

[§~Sir.ÐJ.Neo~§]

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What u moaning about prices Nyt?

Weren't u the one that dropped like 7.5k per 7970???

 

[Oj0]

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Bwahahahaha, ROFL, LMAO! Good on you Sir Neo.

The GTX 680 is the GTX 680, it's the top performing single GPU on the market and therefore will command top pricing. Everyone will sell them at a loss much like anyone who bought any other graphics card. I will bet anything you didn't sell those 7970s for what you paid.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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What u moaning about prices Nyt?

Weren't u the one that dropped like 7.5k per 7970???

Bought the first on launch day for R7.5k, bought the second for R5.8k

 

[inn3rs3lf]

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Excuse me but where on earth does the 680 fall into the bracket of mid range cards? Lolz. Its high end. Period. Fastest single gpu the world has seen but its mid range? The 690 will be released and that too will be high end. Making them both fall in the end range bracket.

You cant say that one a new card comes out and is quicker that it makes the previous null and void. Both will hold the high end name tag.

My shillings worth

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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Excuse me but where on earth does the 680 fall into the bracket of mid range cards? Lolz. Its high end. Period. Fastest single gpu the world has seen but its mid range? The 690 will be released and that too will be high end. Making them both fall in the end range bracket.

You cant say that one a new card comes out and is quicker that it makes the previous null and void. Both will hold the high end name tag.

My shillings worth

Its mid range because in the Kepler series its only GK104 and not the "high-end" GK110. Nvidia is just cashing in on a $500 price because AMD's top card cant even beat Nvidia's mid range card.
It was meant to have a $350-$400 price. Thats why it was easy for Nvidia to put two 680s on a card for the 690, because those GPU's are mid rage Kepler. It will be unlikely to see two GK110's on a single card without major downclocking

If a 680 with 1536SP is high end in the Kepler series then what do you call the GK110 with 2304SP ?? The PCB on the 680 isnt even designed to be high end, I mean seriously what high end card uses two 6 pin power connectors and has a 5 phase power delivery design ? Lol. But +1 for defending your purchase of your MSI GTX680

 

[Oj0]

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Its mid range because in the Kepler series its only GK104 and not the "high-end" GK110. Nvidia is just cashing in on a $500 price because AMD's top card cant even beat Nvidia's mid range card.
It was meant to have a $350-$400 price. Thats why it was easy for Nvidia to put two 680s on a card for the 690, because those GPU's are mid rage Kepler. It will be unlikely to see two GK110's on a single card without major downclocking

So I'm guessing GF100 (the GTX 480) was meant to be midrange because GF110 (the GTX 580) came out later? No, GK104 IS high end. I bet nobody would have brought this up had Nvidia called it the GK100. This is one big marketing stunt by Nvidia, the biggest Kepler core wasn't ready (think GF110) so they released the early trial sample (think GF100) but called it the GK104 instead so they could say their mid-range SKU is beating out AMD's top range SKU.

If a 680 with 1536SP is high end in the Kepler series then what do you call the GK110 with 2304SP ??

Kepler 2nd generation, a la GF110.

The PCB on the 680 isnt even designed to be high end, I mean seriously what high end card uses two 6 pin power connectors and has a 5 phase power delivery design ? Lol.

Really? 8800 Ultra. 4-phase power, two 6-pin PCIe connectors and a TDP of a "massive" 175w, substantially lower than the GTX 680. High phase count doesn't make a product better, you have to factor in the quality of the phases as well. The phase race is pure marketing, "Buy our board cause we have 1.5 million phases and our competitors only use 1.4 million." Work out the power draw of a Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4 GHz "Gallatin" at 4.8 GHz and 2.22v, and then consider we were doing that on motherboards with only three or four phases. I'll give you a clue, it's in excess of 300w, or about 100w per phase. If the VRM on the GTX 680 uses good quality components it'll be just fine for 400 to 500w.

But +1 for defending your purchase of your MSI GTX680

Sometimes I get the feeling that if someone has something worse than you, you feel you're better than them; and if they have something better than you they've wasted their money as you went for the best bang/buck ratio.

 

[inn3rs3lf]

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Its mid range because in the Kepler series its only GK104 and not the "high-end" GK110. Nvidia is just cashing in on a $500 price because AMD's top card cant even beat Nvidia's mid range card.
It was meant to have a $350-$400 price. Thats why it was easy for Nvidia to put two 680s on a card for the 690, because those GPU's are mid rage Kepler. It will be unlikely to see two GK110's on a single card without major downclocking

If a 680 with 1536SP is high end in the Kepler series then what do you call the GK110 with 2304SP ?? The PCB on the 680 isnt even designed to be high end, I mean seriously what high end card uses two 6 pin power connectors and has a 5 phase power delivery design ? Lol. But +1 for defending your purchase of your MSI GTX680

Lolz.

Dude i bought the card based on performance and testing. Now, if the 7970 wiped the floor with the 680 i would agree. however you have seen the results. Forget internal architecture.

So I dear sir will gladly sit here and defend my card.

 

[Nyt Ryda]

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Really? 8800 Ultra. 4-phase power, two 6-pin PCIe connectors and a TDP of a "massive" 175w, substantially lower than the GTX 680. High phase count doesn't make a product better, you have to factor in the quality of the phases as well. The phase race is pure marketing, "Buy our board cause we have 1.5 million phases and our competitors only use 1.4 million." Work out the power draw of a Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4 GHz "Gallatin" at 4.8 GHz and 2.22v, and then consider we were doing that on motherboards with only three or four phases. I'll give you a clue, it's in excess of 300w, or about 100w per phase. If the VRM on the GTX 680 uses good quality components it'll be just fine for 400 to 500w.

Werent you the one who said the 680 PCB screams mid range and that a 1st year engineering student can come up with that board

The GTX670 specs are "released", only has one SLI finger, like the 560 Ti, even more evidence that the GTX680 was meant to be the mid range ala 670 and GK110 as the GTX680

 

[Oj0]

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There's a very big difference between a card APPEARING mid-range and BEING mid-range You said a high end card can't have five phase power and two 6-pin connectors, what does that make the 8800 Ultra? Did you even read the rest of my post?

For the GK104 to be a mid-range GPU there would have to be a faster GPU from the same family right now. Is there? Negative on that. The GeForce GTX 680 might not have anywhere near an impressive PCB but it doesn't detract one bit from the fact that right now it IS the highest-end GPU available on the market.

 

[inn3rs3lf]

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Exactly what I am saying.

 

[Oj0]

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GK104 is officially high end, GK110 is reserved for GPGPU (think Quadro and Tesla).

 

[Oj0]

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The GTX670 specs are "released", only has one SLI finger, like the 560 Ti, even more evidence that the GTX680 was meant to be the mid range ala 670 and GK110 as the GTX680

I see two though... Give me a bit and I'll split the topic.