F1 2024

[J0N0]

I see many people do but Lando is ahead of him in the DC for a reason. Paistri has had a good few months though and outscored Lando. I just think all things being equal Lando is faster. Perhaps Piastri is stronger mentally which is a factor to never ignore.
Why Max is so good. Yes he is incredibly talented but he is a mentality monster, and that is what separates him from the others. Could say the same about Hamilton.

That mentality is, in my opinion, what's missing from Lando and Charles. Great drivers, but I don't know if they have the killer instinct that the true champions have. George is another one.

Oscar doesn't exactly seem to have that instinct either. But he may have something else - a Raikonnen-like unflappability, total iceman approach, which may win him a WDC some day too. But with him it's still very early to tell.

A big factor of this is because Lando normally gets the better race strategy there's been many times where Oscar has been left out way longer than he should have and it causes not just Lando to under cut him but other drivers as well, and this only seems to happen when Oscar is ahead of Lando.

I think this is why Oscar is not playing nice with Lando because the team isn't backing him in the same way they are backing Lando, which is fair because Lando is ahead in points but Oscar is trying to prove a point that he's better than Lando so I disagree that he doesn't have that killer instinct other wise he would have never risked the lap 1 overtake this weekend in Monza.

If he starts qualifying ahead of Lando he would start setting himself up for a lot more wins and maybe then the team would take him more seriously, because not matter what McLaren says Lando is their number 1 driver and Oscar needs to prove otherwise the same way Max did when he was promoted to RB he had to prove he was quicker than Daniel which he did by being aggressive and taking risks.

 

[el_guapo3291]

I'm sure many will disagree on both him being top tier and being ahead of Piastri

Not if they watched him in the junior categories 👀 , Charles is very special he just needs Ferrari to give him a proper car and strat team for once... Charles is arguably the fastest over a single lap, if I had to bet my life on 1 driver setting the fastest lap in equal machines would pick Charles 10/10 times. I think Charles needs to work on his race pace a bit and also his 1v1, when he first came into f1 he wasn't afraid to go head to head with anyone, I think over the years especially 2022 his confidence took a hit. Recently he seems to be slowly regaining form so hopefully we see the best Charles again soon.

 

[Valheru]

Well, well, well....

 

[goldfritter]

Well, well, well....

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[BLaaR]

Wonder if old Nico might be right.

The clear clause suspected in Oscar Piastri’s ‘number one contract’ at McLaren

Nico Rosberg believes Oscar Piastri has a "number one" driver contract which means he does not have to help Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

 

[goldfritter]

Wonder if old Nico might be right.

The clear clause suspected in Oscar Piastri’s ‘number one contract’ at McLaren

Nico Rosberg believes Oscar Piastri has a "number one" driver contract which means he does not have to help Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

Brown has said in interviews that he has two number one drivers, so I suspect this is true. And the way the team is managed bears that out.

 

[BLaaR]

And from Oscar's point of view. Why help Lando and then end up 3rd in the drivers, when he can take the points where he can. Might not overtake Max but could still catch Lando. So being 2nd is a real possibility for him.

Edit : Oh and Charles is also in the mix. So if he hands points to Lando he could stay at 4th.

 

[J0N0]

Wonder if old Nico might be right.

The clear clause suspected in Oscar Piastri’s ‘number one contract’ at McLaren

Nico Rosberg believes Oscar Piastri has a "number one" driver contract which means he does not have to help Lando Norris.

www.planetf1.com

The only time I feel number 1 driver status is applicable is when one driver is clearly out performing the other and the gap between the drivers is big enough where the points different cant realistically be made up.

Such as Lewis and Bottas or Max and Perez the points differences are always 50 to 100 between them, and Lewis or Max are always significantly quicker than their team mates.

If Lando cant beat his own team mate to get the championship does he deserve the title then?

 

[Spontaneous.Spinach]

What to watch this weekend?

 

[Valheru]

What to watch this weekend?

MotoGP, San Marino.
Rugby on Saturday, SA vs NZ. NZ are at home in Cape Town.

 

[Petester]

NZ are at home in Cape Town.

True that

 

[BLaaR]

Wonder how many of these will make it in F1 to their mid 30s and beyond.
Hard to believe Max is in F1 for 10 years already.

 

[Valheru]

Wonder how many of these will make it in F1 to their mid 30s and beyond.
Hard to believe Max is in F1 for 10 years already.

Gives them a shot at the record books, if their stars align. They are making it into F1 far quicket than anyones 20-30 years ago.

 

[Frana.mtb]

and STILL Seb is the youngest WDC

 

[Spontaneous.Spinach]

Go back to sleep, no practice this weekend you guys are too early

 

[Valheru]

and STILL Seb is the youngest WDC

And only to 4-in-a-row? For now.

 

[Frana.mtb]

And only to 4-in-a-row? For now.

Lewis has 2017,18,19 and 20

Max will likely edge this year ( probably with a fight)

 

[Frana.mtb]

Lewis has 2017,18,19 and 20

Max will likely edge this year ( probably with a fight)

And to be air Lewis was damn close in 21' 😅

 

[J0N0]

Did some quick math's here if Lando can win every race for the Remainder of the season and Max scores no higher than 3rd even if he gets fastest lap for all Remaining races, Lando will take the lead of the championship in Qatar.

Now can Lando win all remaining races yes but he wont and on the other hand can Max even get a 3rd place currently because if Monza's pace is accurate probably not.

This is also excluding Sprints.

https://imgur.com/a/yfqCkiy

 

[Valheru]

Now can Lando win all remanding race yes but he wont and on the other hand can Max even get a 3rd place currently because if Monza's pace is accurate probably not.

This is also excluding Sprints.

Can, yes. Will, no.

RB engeering may lack a bit of direction, but if they can act quickly on the inaction from the FIA on the "flexi-wing" "active aero", they can make something of it at Baku.

 

[el_guapo3291]

And only to 4-in-a-row? For now.

How many in a row is 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004? 👀

 

[Valheru]

How many in a row is 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004? 👀

5.

I don't google something before positng to look good on the internet.

So we have established he is the youngest to 4-in-a-row.

 

[el_guapo3291]

So we have established he is the youngest to 4-in-a-row.

LOL, on this part yes, but very few drivers get an Adrian Newey car in their 2nd year in f1, combined with Seb's obvious top tier talent. It one stage it looked like he was going to smash every single record possible in f1.

 

[Valheru]

LOL, on this part yes, but very few drivers get an Adrian Newey car in their 2nd year in f1, combined with Seb's obvious top tier talent. It one stage it looked like he was going to smash every single record possible in f1.

Yeah, did not like him at all then. The team dynamic was very toxic. Mark, move over, Seb wins. Seb, don't overtake. Nah fek you. And your team. Seb wins.

I am glad he has made amends since then and has become someone far more relatable (the Stroll joke on exit was epic).

 

[BLaaR]

Did some quick math's here if Lando can win every race for the Remainder of the season and Max scores no higher than 3rd even if he gets fastest lap for all Remaining races, Lando will take the lead of the championship in Qatar.

Now can Lando win all remaining races yes but he wont and on the other hand can Max even get a 3rd place currently because if Monza's pace is accurate probably not.

This is also excluding Sprints.

https://imgur.com/a/yfqCkiy

I sorta feel like Max. "Unrealistic to win either titles".

Max needs a fa.v from Charles and perhaps Oscar (if McLaren stick to the papaya rules) to win a couple of the remaining races. With Merc and Ferrari joining in the top 6 finishes, I doubt Max will even average a P5 over the remaining races. Since RB is prob. going to be bad over the next 2 races, he might end up P6/P7 there.

Lets see if luck favours him and Ferrari wins and Lando DNF a race (or two).

 

[Frana.mtb]

Honestly I feel like out of the front runners those who can still win are Lando/Charles/Oscar

Lando is just bad at starts and expects his team to keep Oscar back.

Charles always seems to bottle things when it goes right for him. ( see 2021)

Oscar has the right of everything in this stage , but he has the most ground to claw back.

All three of the above need to take all points available at every single upcoming round and by that ONE guy needs to take those points and the others can't be taking it off him.

The above ALSO RELIES on Max having trouble atleast twice in the upcoming races.

I think Max is (almost)definitely still winning this but maybe with less than a 10 point lead.

The above scenarios also don't take into account Sainz or the mercs who are all still dangerous and maybe more level headed to come through ( Lewis most of all ) BUT they are all further back and would almost need straight wins with Max retiring constantly.

IF Lando/Charles/Oscar don't win the next two races with fastest lap and Max doesn't finish lower than 5th this championship is becoming a losing battle for the challengers.

 

[J0N0]

I sorta feel like Max. "Unrealistic to win either titles".

Max needs a fa.v from Charles and perhaps Oscar (if McLaren stick to the papaya rules) to win a couple of the remaining races. With Merc and Ferrari joining in the top 6 finishes, I doubt Max will even average a P5 over the remaining races. Since RB is prob. going to be bad over the next 2 races, he might end up P6/P7 there.

Lets see if luck favours him and Ferrari wins and Lando DNF a race (or two).

This much is true however the only 2 top teams that haven't implemented the flexier front wings is RB and Ferrari and il bet my left nut you will probably see both of them running a new front wing probably as soon as Azerbaijan because the FIA has practically demand them legal.

And something like a new front wing could drastically change the performance of both the RB and the Ferrari specially if they have a compatible floor.

But if Max or Lando suffer any DNFs from here on out that would be a major factor and the next 2 races are street circuits.

 

[Frana.mtb]

hypothetical:

George wins Baku, Lewis and Sainz make up the podium , Max comes 4th and Lando 5th

Then

Perez wins Singapore with the mercs on the podium , Max 4th and Lando 5th again.

Now Lando needs to Win 3 times and take fastest lap in order to lead by 3/4points and theres only 6 races left to do this.

And that's best case scenario for Lando , if Max takes points off him once this scenario becomes even more difficult



Okay that's enough formula one now for a non race weekend 😅

 

[Pr3d4t3r]

Perez wins.

yeaaaaah, but that won't happen...

 

[Petester]

hypothetical:

George wins Baku, Lewis and Sainz make up the podium , Max comes 4th and Lando 5th

Then

Perez wins Singapore with the mercs on the podium , Max 4th and Lando 5th again.

Now Lando needs to Win 3 times and take fastest lap in order to lead by 3/4points and theres only 6 races left to do this.

And that's best case scenario for Lando , if Max takes points off him once this scenario becomes even more difficult



Okay that's enough formula one now for a non race weekend 😅

Perez wins Singapore. I love your humour