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V6 Turbo or V8

V6T or V8

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So, quick question to you petrolheads out there.

Buy or classic build, rear wheel drive, whats your poison? Easy choice, V6 Turbo or V8. Dont want to hear about your 1.0 diesel being better or your 1.4tsi fuel saver, and if you think Prius you can faaaaaaakof. 😆

So, which is it?
 
Same as BillyBob for the moment (when he's not driving his 1.x diesel...)

I'm doing about 40km * 2 daily now so 3l petrol isn't the greatest but a V8 would just kill me on fuel consumption. It's faster than quite a few non turbo V8's but the sound is fairly bland (stock).
 
V8. That sound and reliability over a turbo.
 
Audi 5 cylinder turbo.
Wat wil jy bou? Ek het iemand wat nou n nice V6 verkoop vir 6k :)
V8 eats fuel and does not make power :p
 
Actually, let me throw a little caveat in there...

Depends on what V8 we're comparing to.

LS7 / LSX trumps just about any six cylinder turbo you can throw at it.
 
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Here's my input having owned both.

V8 - Jaguar XF non SC. Just na V8 5L

Inline 6 Tebo - M135i (with all the bolt ons, JB4, DP etc etc).


6-pot turbo
You'll in most cases always be able to pull more kw's out of a turbo car.
Boost
Fuel consumption is comparable to 2L cars.
Boost

V8
Noise, V8 takes it hands down because V8. Every tunnel is a eargasm waiting to happen.
Nothing beats the low down V8 torque. There's no waiting for the turbo to spool. Breaking the tyres from the tarmac in 3rd is always fun.
Power delivery on the V8 is also obviously more linear, being N/a.
Less can go wrong on a N/a setup vs Turbo setups.
Noise
Fuel consumption is atrocious. After some spirited driving I could easily get in to 20+L/100km
Noise

Of the 2, I miss the Jag the most. It wasn't the rocket the M135 was, but it made the sack of meat in the driver seat just a tad more happy.
 
BillyBob said:
Actually, let me throw a little caveat in there...

Depends on what V8 we're comparing to.

LS7 / LSX trumps just about any six cylinder turbo you can throw at it.
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That's the point. We're not thinking Chev at all.

My father always had the idea to get an old Jeep body of some sort and dump a V8 in there. Weekend toy, screw around with the boy racers on the street etc. Now for most common use a 302 should be fine but there are plenty options out there. Both my father and I are huge ford fans, have always been. He has his ideas for the Jeep, I've always wanted to drop a V8 into something. My car of choice for this would be Ford Sapphire. Yeah I know, there's probably 10 000 other choices, but I'm Old Skool Ford as they get. Also, Sapphire has independent rear suspension and a bigass bonnet to drop anything big in. 302 however won't cut it for me, so my choices has gone to 427 Windsor motor or then V6 Cosworth FBC.

Dad and I spoke about this for a while and we're wanting to start both projects rather soon. Dad's choice is easy, I'm leaning more towards the 8 purely for that low down grunt, even though that FBC sounds so sweeet.
Here's what the Windsor sounds like
[video=youtube;RrjeB_JUbK0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrjeB_JUbK0[/video]
 
Here's the FBC
[video=youtube;YWiyx9S33w4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWiyx9S33w4[/video]
 
And this is a South African guy that has done the 427 swop on a Sapphire
[video=youtube;MDYVGdD_cJs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDYVGdD_cJs[/video]

Thing just sounds violent
justin-timberlake-jizz-in-my-pants-12.jpg
 
I knew a dude who dropped an engine very similar (if it's not the exact one) to a Chevrolet Vortec L18 big-block engine (8.1L V8) in an old Chev pickup. And then he put two turbos on it. He had to have custom wheels and tyres made for the car because of the power. He did complain about fuel economy though. A fill-up of ~60l got him 100km if he drove it hard.
 
Obviously you want to stay within the Ford stable for a motor - so that rules out the really interesting (or powerful ;) ) engine swops... (Chev LS7/X, BMW S54/S65, 2JZ, et al)

427 Windsor would probably be your cheapest solution to getting close to 550 hp in a V8... but it's a R150k build if done locally, or R200k to land a crate motor.

You'll hemorrhage money on an FBC, only to get upstaged by any half decent hot hatch - turbocharging it properly will cost you another R100k... Not the solution.

Personally, if I had to stay in the Ford stable, I'd be scrounging through scrap yards to find a 4L Inline 6 Turbo Barra motor from a crashed Territory ST... What it lacks in sophistication, it makes up for in rugged reliability - Cast iron block that's tough as nails and can handle loads of boost...

R30k for the motor, and you're good for 400hp on the stock GT3540 - 550hp at a push if you weld up the internal wastegate and go with an external unit.
R25000 for a bigger turbo and manifold, and you're set for 600 hp...
Throw another R40k at a forged bottom end, and 700-800 hp is within reach.
 
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I think you're asking the wrong questions ...

ford-escort-rs-cosworth.jpg


The one ford to rule them all !

[video=youtube;WOFbLuJlX7w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOFbLuJlX7w[/video]
 
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Superflan said:
cough.. 2jz rb26det
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2JZ is overdone - every dutchman clutchplate and his mate moers one into a RWD car. Hence, it being the last one I mentioned in the list in my previous post - as personally, I wouldn't run one anywhere other than a Supra or a Lexus 200iS - or throw it into something outrageous like an MX5, Porsche 944, Z3 for shits and giggles..

RB26, pound for pound, is not as cost-effective to mod to silly power figures - it's an intricate engine, and also a tad overplayed.



CRE4MPIE said:
I think you're asking the wrong questions ...

ford-escort-rs-cosworth.jpg


The one ford to rule them all !
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Not exactly the kind of thing you go and hoon the snot out of.... it's a collector's item.

YB motors are scarce as hen's teeth, and priced accordingly - and while a 500 hp YB is a ton of fun, it's expensive to get it there, and laggy as hell. Not what Presler is after.

Lastly, moering a YB into a stock Sapphire body is kind of like gooiing an M3 engine into a 320i - it's doable, but ultimately a bit sacrilegious, seeing as the Sapphire Cosworth does exist.
 
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CRE4MPIE said:
I think you're asking the wrong questions ...

ford-escort-rs-cosworth.jpg


The one ford to rule them all !

While I agree with your statement, I'm with [MENTION=334]BillyBob[/MENTION] on this, there's some sacred ground you don't step in the history of cars, and modding cars like the Escort Cosworth should land you some man size whupass. You don't fuck around with Collectors Cars.

In the age (families and town beliefs as well) I grew up with/in, there was this belief that at some point in your life you stop with the smaller stuff and a 6 or 8 cylinder car was a thing of stature, even more so if you put it in there. I haven't fogotten my roots yet. Now a YB would be fun, I mean it's a cossie and will drag some bigger motor cars easy, but somehow with everything out there today Cossie YB's seems to have taken the back seat. The scene is much more into 1JZ/2JZ/RB25/RB26 motors than anything else and as Billy said, YB's have become chicken teeth and cost as much

What I'm after is that torquey grunt that scares the shit out of even you if you tap the pedal too hard. I'm more favored towards the V8 for that. Balanced bottom end, well worked heads and cam and perhaps EFI should be more than enough for that Badboy feeling. Another thing I like that will help with the Sleeper mode is rather than straight pipes is to silence it more and end up with something that kicks ass but sounds like this.

[video=youtube;jGL-WRXMcOE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGL-WRXMcOE[/video]
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V6 Turbo. V8 for noice yea. But newer V6's tend to have a ton more power as of late. The efficiency in today's latest tech is amazing. V6's are keeping up with early 2000s V12's
 
Either. I drive a 4 pot 1600 Corolla so yeah, anything would be better really.
Looking at a 330Ci for my next car (inline 6).

If I had to choose between either a V6 or V8, I'd look at the car overall.
The Golf VR6 was a cracker and my step moms Camero is a pile of poo.

THe problem with a V8 is most of them are american and thus, the interriors are poor.
I'm a big fan of a large diesel V6 though. C320 CDI. 3.0. 167kw, 414nm torque, 0-100 in 8.1 and 40Mpg (17km to the litre).
 
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BillyBob said:
2JZ is overdone - every dutchman clutchplate and his mate moers one into a RWD car. Hence, it being the last one I mentioned in the list in my previous post - as personally, I wouldn't run one anywhere other than a Supra or a Lexus 200iS - or throw it into something outrageous like an MX5, Porsche 944, Z3 for shits and giggles...
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Lol a 2jz in a MX5 xD lots of shits and giggles.
 
No one mentioned rotary yet. I'm surprised


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Everyday.... BMW 330d (226kw, 776nm.. on the wheels).

Weekend toy, NA petrol V8 or V10 such as the E60 BMW M5.... Almost nothing beats the sound of a petrol V8, nothing beats the V10.
 
Quentin360 SA said:
Everyday.... BMW 330d (226kw, 776nm.. on the wheels).

Weekend toy, NA petrol V8 or V10 such as the E60 BMW M5.... Almost nothing beats the sound of a petrol V8, nothing beats the V10.
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[video=youtube;O7D3pmYmx5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7D3pmYmx5w[/video]
 
For that shit in your pants effect, a model S. but not in SA yet. :(

[video=youtube;sw739IwT_nw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw739IwT_nw[/video]
 
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