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THIS close to buying an NR200P - anything else I should look at?

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Ryzen 3600 - Wrath Prism Cooler
B550i Aorus Pro AX (NOTE: Does not have type C header)
MSI GTX1060 Twin Frozr
Corsair SF600 Platinum
M.2 SSD. No other storage

Currently have an Enthoo Evolv Shift Air. CPU cooling is only adequate, GPU cooling is fine.
I miss the tempered glass aesthetic though. Looking for something clean and small with TG. Planning on staying with air cooling although I'll probably upgrade from the Wraith Prism.

Anything better than the NR200P?
 
TU-150? if you want bigger air coolers it's a great option
 
The ONLY reason to head into the Evolv Shift space, is because they are cases that look striking.

I'm running a Shift X on my HTPC/couch gaming rig. The fact that the little 3200G hits 80 C while gaming matters much, MUCH less to me than the fact that there's a piece of basically art next to my TV. Once (if?) I get a custom loop in there it will be even better.

If it was an NR200P I would probably have sold it by now and got a MiBox to stream on, and given up on the sexy-PC-in-my-living-room idea. The NR200P and its ilk all look like generic rectangles to me; from the point of view of this mindspace I feel like you might as well use the case from a Dell office jobbie.

But if that matters less to you than your HWINFO readout, you can't justify the Shift range. If you want air cooling performance then a generic rectangle is hard to beat.
 
This may not apply because your gpu doesn't generate a whole lot of heat, but the tg panel can cause some overheating. The standard panel with its vents and the side fan bracket work wonders. Whether you use your air cooler with side intake fans or switch to an aio mounted on the side.
I have a build with a 1080ti and 120mm aio mounted on the side, the system runs very cool and quiet. I would recommend using the standard panel, unless you plan on doing a custom loop in which case the tg panel would become more relevant
 
@iamgigglz did you end up getting it?


Originally I didn't like the case, but's growing on me (not enough to change) but if I was starting out a new build I would be tempted by all this included stuff.

Would be curious if 25mm fans couldn't be made to work in the bottom, because slim fans are expensive.
 
rinners said:
@iamgigglz did you end up getting it?


Originally I didn't like the case, but's growing on me (not enough to change) but if I was starting out a new build I would be tempted by all this included stuff.

Would be curious if 25mm fans couldn't be made to work in the bottom, because slim fans are expensive.
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That is the newer MAX version though.

I bought my wife the NR200P for her ITX setup and its pretty decent albeit cramped (what ITX build isn't tho?)
The newer MAX version looks like a way better option IMO
 
Ageless_ZA said:
That is the newer MAX version though.

I bought my wife the NR200P for her ITX setup and its pretty decent albeit cramped (what ITX build isn't tho?)
The newer MAX version looks like a way better option IMO
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100%, they are missing a few things though, would've loved a SSD mount for bottom storage expansion & a GPU holder to stop sag. Otherwise I'm pretty set on this if I don't go Threadripper again soon. Also, this finally allows some nifty custom loops to be planned out.

I'm stuck between this and the Lian Li 0-11 mini air coming out.
 
Ageless_ZA said:
That is the newer MAX version though.

I bought my wife the NR200P for her ITX setup and its pretty decent albeit cramped (what ITX build isn't tho?)
The newer MAX version looks like a way better option IMO
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That's why preinstalled AIO and PSU appeal to me. Done my fair share of ITX builds, this has an obvious amount of thought in it to make life easier.

Toy Machine said:
100%, they are missing a few things though, would've loved a SSD mount for bottom storage expansion & a GPU holder to stop sag. Otherwise I'm pretty set on this if I don't go Threadripper again soon. Also, this finally allows some nifty custom loops to be planned out.

I'm stuck between this and the Lian Li 0-11 mini air coming out.
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That's a quick fix with a 3D printer, but first rule of ITX... don't block airflow.
 
rinners said:
That's a quick fix with a 3D printer, but first rule of ITX... don't block airflow.
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easiest would be like Ali did here & get slim 120mm's, 3d print an x bracket that houses a stand and screws into the slim 120mm below it
 
iamgigglz said:
Still THIS close :ROFLMAO:
I realised that my ML140 fans won't fit so I'd have to buy new fans. Suddenly a R1500 exercise becomes a R2500 exercise. Still keen, just lots of other things want money from me.
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My QBX costed me R500 and with a few mods has much better airflow than the CM. I even bought another just for a future plan, because they can stack without killing airflow.

I still think the perfect SFX / ITX case hasn't been born yet. If anyone wants to help me produce one I'll design it.
 
Toy Machine said:
easiest would be like Ali did here & get slim 120mm's, 3d print an x bracket that houses a stand and screws into the slim 120mm below it
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You want slim fans and a 2.5" still? I assume the spot away from the riser? I stay away from drives with cables these days. Cables block airflow
 
rinners said:
You want slim fans and a 2.5" still? I assume the spot away from the riser? I stay away from drives with cables these days. Cables block airflow
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No, either or, just mounts for 2.5". Or they could make their own gpu anti-sag & include in the product as it does wiggle around xD
 
Toy Machine said:
No, either or, just mounts for 2.5". Or they could make their own gpu anti-sag & include in the product as it does wiggle around xD
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Indeed.

I think the best feature of this MAX variant though is the custom length AIO tubes. I think more case manufactures should have matching AIOs.
 
rinners said:
Indeed.

I think the best feature of this MAX variant though is the custom length AIO tubes. I think more case manufactures should have matching AIOs.
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& the rails for mounting the AIO, honestly don't know why it wasn't in the first one
 
rinners said:
Probably because they didn't have to mount them themselves like they are doing now ;)
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Probably xD would have been an absolute treat feature wise on initial release.
 
iamgigglz said:
Still THIS close :ROFLMAO:
I realised that my ML140 fans won't fit so I'd have to buy new fans. Suddenly a R1500 exercise becomes a R2500 exercise. Still keen, just lots of other things want money from me.
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Will fit on the side mount
 
iamgigglz said:
Still THIS close :ROFLMAO:
I realised that my ML140 fans won't fit so I'd have to buy new fans. Suddenly a R1500 exercise becomes a R2500 exercise. Still keen, just lots of other things want money from me.
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I got one myself. I have the NR200P variant.

Pro's: I managed to fit a 240mm AIO, full size 300mm+ GPU; albeit I had to buy extra things like a smaller PSU to fit everything else. Also it's possible to fit an ATX PSU with a bracket that's available to 3D print (Cooler Master provides the blueprint on their website). And this has the aesthetic of an NCase M1 and nearly the same size, but a whole lot cheaper.

Con's: Thermals are okay, not great, but not the worst. The build was a pain in the ass, definitely my hardest build out of at least 100s of other builds (including ITX).

All in all, I love it, my most favourite case of all time.

P.S. the "max" version is the exact same as the other model in terms of internal and external design, the only difference is that it has the preinstalled AIO and PSU + comes in a cool grey colour, that's about it.
 
Just ordered a white one. Should look pretty tit with my Titanium GPU.
Planning to move the stock fans to the bottom for an intake-only setup to start with.
 
iamgigglz said:
Just ordered a white one. Should look pretty tit with my Titanium GPU.
Planning to move the stock fans to the bottom for an intake-only setup to start with.
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Using a 2 slot gpu? Anything larger and standard fans wont fit underneath it. If you're going to use the glass panel some extraction fans up top will be a good idea, you can also neatly cable tie a 120mm fan to the rear ventilation cut outs
 
dash09 said:
Using a 2 slot gpu? Anything larger and standard fans wont fit underneath it. If you're going to use the glass panel some extraction fans up top will be a good idea, you can also neatly cable tie a 120mm fan to the rear ventilation cut outs
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MSI 1070Ti Titanium - 2 slot card

This is my current setup - dead simple. You can't really see but I've moved the stock fans to the bottom for intake. Stupid thing is you can't fit the dust filter on the bottom if you're using the nifty rubber/pin mounting system. The pins stick out the bottom so the filter doesn't sit flush.

GPU reaches 65degC running furmark so I'm happy with that, but my Ryzen 3600 is sitting at 65~70degC with very light office use, which is no good. I'm now shopping for an AIO for the CPU. Going to mount it at the bottom and switch the GPU to vertical mount. Stock fans will go back to the top.

https://imgur.com/a/fqntTaP
 
iamgigglz said:
GPU reaches 65degC running furmark so I'm happy with that, but my Ryzen 3600 is sitting at 65~70degC with very light office use, which is no good. I'm now shopping for an AIO for the CPU. Going to mount it at the bottom and switch the GPU to vertical mount. Stock fans will go back to the top.
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Apparently mounting the rad at the bottom is not lekker for the pump, dont know never tried this before. Also vertical gpu mount might restrict its fans. I managed to jippo a 120mm aio to the rear with cable ties, also managed to get it to fit up top above the cpu, tubes need to be flexible enough though and it will also depend on the motherboard heatsink size
 
dash09 said:
Apparently mounting the rad at the bottom is not lekker for the pump, dont know never tried this before. Also vertical gpu mount might restrict its fans. I managed to jippo a 120mm aio to the rear with cable ties, also managed to get it to fit up top above the cpu, tubes need to be flexible enough though and it will also depend on the motherboard heatsink size
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Argh I forgot about the "pump higher than rad" thing - I know it's not exactly a death-knell for the pump but it's something I want to avoid if I can.
A 120mm AIO mounted at the top is making more sense. I could probably just put it above the PSU?
My only issue there is I want an AIO that allows me to monitor the liquid temp. Controlling the radiator fan speed based on anything else is stupid.

An open loop is yelling at me from across the road...
 
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