[Advice] 13th Gen Raptor Lake stock voltage is weird

[dainluke]

This is purely advice and you can take it or leave it. I'm not claiming to be an authority on the matter and you don't have to listen to me at all. I've noticed that a few outlets reported high operating temps in the few AVX tests they would cover. Temps in the 90s-100s were common and thermal throttling was rampant. I and @Era noticed rather high temps running IBT even with up to a 100mV negative offset undervolt. Load voltage was also far higher than we even require for manual OCs that run R23 and pass IBT. If you're someone who routinely uses AVX applications and you are regularly hitting 90-100c with an AIO, this might be the one time I firmly suggest locking in your own CPU ratio and stress testing a more reasonable set and load voltage. Right now my stock VID -100mV runs a higher load Vcore than what I require to run 55/44/48 stable, and I'm able to run 54/43/47 all the way down at 1.25 idle/1.2 Vmin for a max temp of 80c in IBT and 70s in R23.

If you are genuinely seeing obscene temps and you need help, I'm willing to do manual CPU configurations for free for all those who do not know how, or do not want to attempt it on their own.

 

[Gouhan]

If you have an ASUS board you can simply select best case scenario for SVID behavior. On one sample I have it came down from 100'C (Multi Core enhance enabled) to 82'C, same clocks, performance etc. Just drastically reduced power draw + voltage, thus lower temp. Tons of tuning features on 13th Gen and well worth exploring.

 

[dainluke]

If you have an ASUS board you can simply select best case scenario for SVID behavior. On one sample I have it came down from 100'C (Multi Core enhance enabled) to 82'C, same clocks, performance etc. Just drastically reduced power draw + voltage, thus lower temp. Tons of tuning features on 13th Gen and well worth exploring.

That is true yeah. Unfortunately most vendors don’t have that feature. ASRock has one where you can increase stock VID haha. I used to have issues running best case scenario on ADL, but I think with RPL it should be doable now on most chips due to how good the silicon typically is.

 

[Gouhan]

For sure, its such a useful feature that's been around for over a decade now yet doesn't exist on other boards. No idea why.
One can do SVID best case, the other instant crash, but like you say, manual negative offset works fine. Have one CPU where offset is -200mv but still giving 400MHz OC.

 

[dainluke]

For sure, its such a useful feature that's been around for over a decade now yet doesn't exist on other boards. No idea why.
One can do SVID best case, the other instant crash, but like you say, manual negative offset works fine. Have one CPU where offset is -200mv but still giving 400MHz OC.

-200 sounds about right. -100 is actually still a crazy amount of voltage for my personal setup and my OC set config runs far far cooler than even -100. I assume you’re using AI OC now. It seems like a cool feature but I wasn’t having much luck with it earlier this year when I tried it.

 

[Toy Machine]

If you have an ASUS board you can simply select best case scenario for SVID behavior. On one sample I have it came down from 100'C (Multi Core enhance enabled) to 82'C, same clocks, performance etc. Just drastically reduced power draw + voltage, thus lower temp. Tons of tuning features on 13th Gen and well worth exploring.

Does this exist on AL/Z690? I'm getting a Gigabyte board tomorrow and switching from B660, my main issue with AL right now is the damn temperature, I don' think I will every get used to instant 100c & 260w stock xD

 

[Gouhan]

Does this exist on AL/Z690? I'm getting a Gigabyte board tomorrow and switching from B660, my main issue with AL right now is the damn temperature, I don' think I will every get used to instant 100c & 260w stock xD

Sadly the lasty place you'll find it is on Gigabyte boards. Best I can say is use Low in your LLC. Anything more cooks the CPU for me.
Your ADL-S shouldn't be running hot at all.

 

[Gouhan]

-200 sounds about right. -100 is actually still a crazy amount of voltage for my personal setup and my OC set config runs far far cooler than even -100. I assume you’re using AI OC now. It seems like a cool feature but I wasn’t having much luck with it earlier this year when I tried it.

Nah, that just confuses the issue. ASUS doesn't say it but there are many methods to approach the OC. They don't all work the best and they don't work together. I'm only able to do -200mv on 1 sample, the others won't entertain it at all. Best CPU can only do -85mv, just depends on sample really.
I use AI Tuner to get info/characteristics of the CPU (SP/P/E rating, Core sorting, clock estimates etc.), but that's the only AI feature I use.