Zen 2 seen on a site with pricing (AMD 3rd gen desktop SKU)

[JollyJamma]

AMD Ryzen 3000 CPU "Zen 2" Alleged Specs and Prices Leak Out By Retailer - Ryzen 3850X With 16 Cores at $560 US, Ryzen 7 3700X With 12 Cores at $370 US, Ryzen 5 3600X With 8 Cores at $260 US

AMD's Ryzen 3000 series processors based on the Zen 2 architecture have yet again been listed by an online retailer in Singapore.

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Keen for a 3600 CPU (8 cores, 16 threads) but I’m sure the price here will rival Intels pricing and that’ll put me off.

I’ve noticed a huge surge in AMD produces available and it’s not hard to see why. Times are tough and AMD offers most people a great rig for the money.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah that 3600X with 4.8GHz boost on 8 cores sounds too good to be true... but time will tell.
If it is true, then AMD will probably destroy Intel's i5

 

[Valheru]

If that price holds true I want a 3850x

 

[durimotara]

Yeah that 3600X with 4.8GHz boost on 8 cores sounds too good to be true... but time will tell.
If it is true, then AMD will probably destroy Intel's i5

I will then finally upgrade lol, given that its SA the prices will probably not be that great.

 

[JollyJamma]

If that price holds true I want a 3850x

I’m hoping that this isn’t just some click bait site that has thumb sucked shit to get hits.

If it is true, it’ll mean that more and more people can now move to 6 and 8 cores quite easily and it puts more pressure on Intel.

AMD might not have the best efficacy per clock but with 8 cores at a decent speed, you get very close to a really expensive Intel offering.

 

[Valheru]

AMD might not have the best efficacy per clock but with 8 cores at a decent speed, you get very close to a really expensive Intel offering.

Yes, and if AMD's last on-stage demo is anything to go by, they have caught up quite spectacularly. They are giving people what they want (cores + speed) at reasonable prices, which makes it easier to buy into their platform longevity, because if you have to update platform every single CPU upgrade, might as well jump to AMD and save some bucks.

 

[Stefan9]

Looking at the 3700x myself. July can't come soon enough.

 

[JollyJamma]

Looking at the 3700x myself. July can't come soon enough.

It’s my birthday in July too so...

 

[Stefan9]

It’s my birthday in July too so...

Lol interestingly it is mine as well, 25th for me. Planning an upgrade treat for myself.

 

[Valheru]

Rumor from yesterday is that the 16-core SKU's might be delayed until at least December.

We will get the rest in July, so you guys are safe.

 

[AresFaithfull]

Tell me guys some people i know speculate that even though the single core performance is now essentially equal to Intel, they say that it will never truly be as good due to the different architecture of the processors.

 

[Valheru]

Tell me guys some people i know speculate that even though the single core performance is now essentially equal to Intel, they say that it will never truly be as good due to the different architecture of the processors.

Even if it were the case (few 100 points in Cinebench, single-digit frames in games), the value proposition on AMD vs Intel really does make sense. Take the prices in OP, thats 16 Cores for $500 and 8 Cores for $200, where the Intel parts are 9960X for $1600 and 9900K for $580 and BOTH require new mainboards. So good becomes a matter of measurement, if the fanboys want to exclaim and proclaim "the fastest CPU.....in the world" they might as well go ahead, but they are wrong (16 cores vs 8 cores at same MSRP).

 

[AresFaithfull]

Even if it were the case (few 100 points in Cinebench, single-digit frames in games), the value proposition on AMD vs Intel really does make sense. Take the prices in OP, thats 16 Cores for $500 and 8 Cores for $200, where the Intel parts are 9960X for $1600 and 9900K for $580 and BOTH require new mainboards. So good becomes a matter of measurement, if the fanboys want to exclaim and proclaim "the fastest CPU.....in the world" they might as well go ahead, but they are wrong (16 cores vs 8 cores at same MSRP).

Yeah I'm of the same opinion I am gunning for the 3700X to put into my X370 you just cant beat that value and the customer care that AMD are winning now.

 

[Valheru]

Yeah I'm of the same opinion I am gunning for the 3700X to put into my X370 you just cant beat that value and the customer care that AMD are winning now.

Can't wait to see what they are truly capable of when they come out. Intel better rush that 10-core out to mainstream or look like 2nd stringers again.

 

[AresFaithfull]

Can't wait to see what they are truly capable of when they come out. Intel better rush that 10-core out to mainstream or look like 2nd stringers again.

Mate they need to decide if they going to get to 7nm or not first xD #cannonlake10nmMIA

 

[nagapie]

Mate they need to decide if they going to get to 7nm or not first xD #cannonlake10nmMIA

10nm euv is 3rd or 4th quarter this year. One article I saw they busy investing quite a bit into 7nm building space etc.

I'm keen to see what amd brings out and hopefully Intel brings dem 10nm euv sku's out this year and hopefully game houses properly code games to handle all these extra cores we getting

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[JollyJamma]

Even if it were the case (few 100 points in Cinebench, single-digit frames in games), the value proposition on AMD vs Intel really does make sense. Take the prices in OP, thats 16 Cores for $500 and 8 Cores for $200, where the Intel parts are 9960X for $1600 and 9900K for $580 and BOTH require new mainboards. So good becomes a matter of measurement, if the fanboys want to exclaim and proclaim "the fastest CPU.....in the world" they might as well go ahead, but they are wrong (16 cores vs 8 cores at same MSRP).

Well you can’t just win by throwing cores at the problem (threadripper would kill it in games by that logic) but I absolutely agree with you.

The Intel option requires a hugely expensive board and CPU which won’t be twice as fast as the AMD option yet costs roughly twice as much.

AMD2600/3600 and an MSI B450/B550 mortar will probably be a win.

 

[Hale_59]

And everybody is forgetting that AMD comes with a reasonable standard cooler.

 

[Valheru]

Well you can’t just win by throwing cores at the problem (threadripper would kill it in games by that logic)

Yep, just trying to illustrate that the metrics have changed and moved well beyond fastest outright clockspeed. Decided to use price in my example given that it would be the stumbling block for most people and how much performance could be had from each camp. I for one am a "sweetspot" user, I look for high core count that can also run a game and that makes threadripper not an option for me (a waste for me).

 

[JollyJamma]

Yep, just trying to illustrate that the metrics have changed and moved well beyond fastest outright clockspeed. Decided to use price in my example given that it would be the stumbling block for most people and how much performance could be had from each camp. I for one am a "sweetspot" user, I look for high core count that can also run a game and that makes threadripper not an option for me (a waste for me).

Agreed. I like the space that AMD sits in.

It’s not the top spot like Intel but then again, most people don’t have the money for a hugely expensive system and it’ll be overkill for them anyway.

I’m hoping that AMD influences game engine producers to optimize for 20 core/thread usage as the increase in core count each generation with an increase in core optimization, seems to be AMDs method right now.

Beyond Zen 2, when AMD stops supporting the AM4 platform, I’m expecting much of the same. Eg AM5 socket, 4600 CPU and support for 3 generations of architecture.

By that point, Intel will either have to cut prices or offer better, multiple generation support.

 

[JollyJamma]

Judging by this, ETA is the next big AMD event or June.

On a side note, am I the only one who wants flash drives to come as USB-C only from now on with a single required to plug in old drives?

Also, USB 2X2 is stupid and USB4 is stupider.

 

[nagapie]

Judging by this, ETA is the next big AMD event or June.

On a side note, am I the only one who wants flash drives to come as USB-C only from now on with a single required to plug in old drives?

Also, USB 2X2 is stupid and USB4 is stupider.

At least usb 4 = 40 gbps where as 2x2 = 20 gbps and the new 3.2 gen 1 - 3 as did the 3.1 gen 1 & and 2 makes it easy for companies to rip people off. I bought a memory stick from raru it said it was gen 2 but it wasn't it was actually gen 1. I did inform them to update that item but alas got no response.

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[JollyJamma]

At least usb 4 = 40 gbps where as 2x2 = 20 gbps and the new 3.2 gen 1 - 3 as did the 3.1 gen 1 & and 2 makes it easy for companies to rip people off.

Why not just skip to USB4 and forget about 2X2? Both these generations came out at the same time. It could have saved a ton of money just going from 10 to 40 gbs.

Aaaaaanyway, I'm sure the new Zen products will offer 20 gbs USB by default and have PCI-e 5.0, which will be nice. I wish they would create a universally non polar SATA interface.

 

[JollyJamma]

Looks like AMD is poised to take a big chunk out of Intels market share.

Intel’s CPU shortages will only get worse

Research by DigiTimes shows that Intel’s CPU shortages will worsen in the second quarter of 2019.

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