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Good day,

I am seriously considering building a PC (Bad time, I know), and I've spent the last while doing some research. My goal is to get one up and running maybe without a dedicated GPU and without any immediate plans to game on it until I find a good deal. After some looking, I decided that a sweet spot for me might be an i5 11400, because it seems to be the best deal for the price. While I was looking up compatible parts for it, I stumbled upon this deal from Evetech.

It's an "upgrade bundle" with an i5 11400 CPU, an Asus Rog Strix Z490-H motherboard, and 16 GB Klevv Bolt X ram. The total price for the upgrade bundle is R8,700, and the total price for all of those components individually from Evetech is R12900. This seems like a great deal, but I'm very inexperienced, and I know that sites like Evetech are not strangers to excessive markup, so I would love to know if this is worth the money, and what else might be better for the money. I would also appreciate any feedback on the components themselves, and whether they're good parts, and also any advice on using them properly.

Thanks for the help, I'm very new to this, and it's a lot of money, so I would be great if I didn't mess it up.
 
Good day,

I am seriously considering building a PC (Bad time, I know), and I've spent the last while doing some research. My goal is to get one up and running maybe without a dedicated GPU and without any immediate plans to game on it until I find a good deal. After some looking, I decided that a sweet spot for me might be an i5 11400, because it seems to be the best deal for the price. While I was looking up compatible parts for it, I stumbled upon this deal from Evetech.

It's an "upgrade bundle" with an i5 11400 CPU, an Asus Rog Strix Z490-H motherboard, and 16 GB Klevv Bolt X ram. The total price for the upgrade bundle is R8,700, and the total price for all of those components individually from Evetech is R12900. This seems like a great deal, but I'm very inexperienced, and I know that sites like Evetech are not strangers to excessive markup, so I would love to know if this is worth the money, and what else might be better for the money. I would also appreciate any feedback on the components themselves, and whether they're good parts, and also any advice on using them properly.

Thanks for the help, I'm very new to this, and it's a lot of money, so I would be great if I didn't mess it up.
It’s a decent deal for sure. I definitely think that with the current GPU shortage you’d be able to acquire a better lightly used CPU pretty easily on Carbonite alongside a nice board and kit of RAM though. To put it in perspective, I’ve thus far seen a R5000 10700K and a R7500 5800X for sale.
 
Good day,

I am seriously considering building a PC (Bad time, I know), and I've spent the last while doing some research. My goal is to get one up and running maybe without a dedicated GPU and without any immediate plans to game on it until I find a good deal. After some looking, I decided that a sweet spot for me might be an i5 11400, because it seems to be the best deal for the price. While I was looking up compatible parts for it, I stumbled upon this deal from Evetech.

It's an "upgrade bundle" with an i5 11400 CPU, an Asus Rog Strix Z490-H motherboard, and 16 GB Klevv Bolt X ram. The total price for the upgrade bundle is R8,700, and the total price for all of those components individually from Evetech is R12900. This seems like a great deal, but I'm very inexperienced, and I know that sites like Evetech are not strangers to excessive markup, so I would love to know if this is worth the money, and what else might be better for the money. I would also appreciate any feedback on the components themselves, and whether they're good parts, and also any advice on using them properly.

Thanks for the help, I'm very new to this, and it's a lot of money, so I would be great if I didn't mess it up.
Evetech has a whole PC with a 3400g, and one with a 3600 if you get the gpu yourself. Both go for around R6500 I think. Its cheaper and better performance
 
Evetech has a whole PC with a 3400g, and one with a 3600 if you get the gpu yourself. Both go for around R6500 I think. Its cheaper and better performance
The 3600>11400? Uhm I’m not totally sure what workstation benchmarks look like but that can definitely not be the case with regards to gaming. Intel doesn’t inherently mean bad haha.
 
Thank you affxct and Mew_Tw0, I appreciate the responses. I'm having trouble finding any combination of second hand things on here that have the same power, but I'm definitely going to keep searching before I pull the trigger on anything new.
 
Don't buy from Evetech. Just have a look on this forum or mybroadband, or hellopeter. Literally the worst e-tailer in SA and a risk to do any business with. Hell, it's risky just driving past their premises.

Also, is there a specific reason you need a Z490 motherboard?

You aren't planning on overclocking (the 11400 is not unlocked) so I'm not suse what the benefit would be of a Z490 as opposed to a B460 for example, for less money.
 
Don't buy from Evetech. Just have a look on this forum or mybroadband, or hellopeter. Literally the worst e-tailer in SA and a risk to do any business with. Hell, it's risky just driving past their premises.

Also, is there a specific reason you need a Z490 motherboard?

You aren't planning on overclocking (the 11400 is not unlocked) so I'm not suse what the benefit would be of a Z490 as opposed to a B460 for example, for less money.
There isn't any specific reason for the Z490, it's just a part of the bundle on Evetech, and I thought that since the price of the bundle made it good value. I'm also extremely inexperienced, but I knew for sure that if they were selling that combination of stuff together, that it would all work together. I've just looked it up, and apparently the 11th gen Intel chips won't work with a B460, but do you know of any other motherboards that would work? Thanks for letting me know that the Z490 is overkill, you probably just saved me a ton of money. and thanks for adding the info on Evetech, really good to know. I was hoping to get everything from the same place for the sake of convenience, but it's better that I use reputable sellers.
 
There isn't any specific reason for the Z490, it's just a part of the bundle on Evetech, and I thought that since the price of the bundle made it good value. I'm also extremely inexperienced, but I knew for sure that if they were selling that combination of stuff together, that it would all work together. I've just looked it up, and apparently the 11th gen Intel chips won't work with a B460, but do you know of any other motherboards that would work? Thanks for letting me know that the Z490 is overkill, you probably just saved me a ton of money. and thanks for adding the info on Evetech, really good to know. I was hoping to get everything from the same place for the sake of convenience, but it's better that I use reputable sellers.
Yea sorry that was a poor suggestion regarding the B460.

Wootware.co.za
techfox.co.za
annihilationpc.co.za
brutech.co.za

These are all reputable dealers and can be safely used.
 
Hey bud.. just sharing my two cents here... if you aren't going to be getting a GPU due to the prices, then why get the PC now? if you are actually going to have a use for the PC now then awesome.. otherwise take the money and invest it (at your own discretion) and when the GPU prices finally come right you can you get then-current hardware... R9K investment with like R500 p/m for the next 12 months could make for a nice kittie to spend when the time is right :) IMO the '60' version of the cards should be around R6-8K so this market just doesn't make sense
 
For some reason Brutech.co.za is unreachable for me. I'm on afrihost btw
 
Yea sorry that was a poor suggestion regarding the B460.

Wootware.co.za
techfox.co.za
annihilationpc.co.za
brutech.co.za

These are all reputable dealers and can be safely used.
Thanks for the websites, I'll definitely look at those instead.
 
Hey bud.. just sharing my two cents here... if you aren't going to be getting a GPU due to the prices, then why get the PC now? if you are actually going to have a use for the PC now then awesome.. otherwise take the money and invest it (at your own discretion) and when the GPU prices finally come right you can you get then-current hardware... R9K investment with like R500 p/m for the next 12 months could make for a nice kittie to spend when the time is right :) IMO the '60' version of the cards should be around R6-8K so this market just doesn't make sense
You're right, it doesn't make much sense... I work full time from home on a budget laptop that I bought in early 2019ish, but it can't do much more than just my work. I do a little light gaming on it, but it has some serious thermal throttling issues, so I can't really do too much. I started looking around at gaming laptops a few weeks ago, but the best place for the price is to get them from Amazon, but it's a lot of money to drop all at once, and if something goes wrong it's a lot harder to get everything sorted out with it.

So I turned to building a PC, because I have a shitty old case, monitor, and keyboard around, so I figured it may be easier to build it up bit by bit. Initially, I would pretty much have the same gaming capability as my laptop, but because of the ram and CPU, my work would probably be a bit smoother. That was the thought process anyway, so a few days ago I started researching and asking questions, and found out that the chip shortage may last into 2023, so it started to sound like a better and better idea to begin now.

You're probably right though, I just have that unscratchable itch because a bunch of my hobbies (Gaming, music production, Sketchup) rely on a better setup, so I thought getting started as soon as possible seemed like a good idea, even without a GPU. You're almost certainly right, and it would do to wait a little to see if AMD has a response to the i5 11400 is, because it may be a great CPU. Thanks for the heads up, I very well may end up just trying to wait it out a bit. My laptop will just have to do for the moment probably.
 
I recently purchased the intel i5 11400F , Aorus B560M Elite and some 2nd hand 16GB 3200mhz Ram.
At the time I payed R3740 for the Cpu from Titan Ice , R2836 for my Board from Progenix(Now R2595) and picked up a 2nd hand pair of Ram on Carb for R1500 .
All in Total came too = R8076
Could not be happier with the performance. Really good bang for buck.
 
You're right, it doesn't make much sense... I work full time from home on a budget laptop that I bought in early 2019ish, but it can't do much more than just my work. I do a little light gaming on it, but it has some serious thermal throttling issues, so I can't really do too much. I started looking around at gaming laptops a few weeks ago, but the best place for the price is to get them from Amazon, but it's a lot of money to drop all at once, and if something goes wrong it's a lot harder to get everything sorted out with it.

So I turned to building a PC, because I have a shitty old case, monitor, and keyboard around, so I figured it may be easier to build it up bit by bit. Initially, I would pretty much have the same gaming capability as my laptop, but because of the ram and CPU, my work would probably be a bit smoother. That was the thought process anyway, so a few days ago I started researching and asking questions, and found out that the chip shortage may last into 2023, so it started to sound like a better and better idea to begin now.

You're probably right though, I just have that unscratchable itch because a bunch of my hobbies (Gaming, music production, Sketchup) rely on a better setup, so I thought getting started as soon as possible seemed like a good idea, even without a GPU. You're almost certainly right, and it would do to wait a little to see if AMD has a response to the i5 11400 is, because it may be a great CPU. Thanks for the heads up, I very well may end up just trying to wait it out a bit. My laptop will just have to do for the moment probably.
In that case i would try sell the crappy laptop for whatever you can get for it, sell any other crap you can- keep your eyes out for a good second hand combo deal here on carb and proceed with investing the rest and waiting.. DDR5 will be here soon(ish) and then we are again buying different components (Andi reckon DDR5 prices will be the shit of nightmares)

A second hand deal might be the way to go... honestly nothing worse than a slow-ass laptop when you are trying to work :(

but GL bud!

P.S- Unfortunately our entire world relies on these chips, so a multi-year shortage just isn't an option.. alternative plans are in the works but we are still 12months + away from some sort of normality -IMO
 
In that case i would try sell the crappy laptop for whatever you can get for it, sell any other crap you can- keep your eyes out for a good second hand combo deal here on carb and proceed with investing the rest and waiting.. DDR5 will be here soon(ish) and then we are again buying different components (Andi reckon DDR5 prices will be the shit of nightmares)

A second hand deal might be the way to go... honestly nothing worse than a slow-ass laptop when you are trying to work :(

but GL bud!

P.S- Unfortunately our entire world relies on these chips, so a multi-year shortage just isn't an option.. alternative plans are in the works but we are still 12months + away from some sort of normality -IMO
Thanks for the insight, I think I may end up waiting it out for the moment.
 
I recently purchased the intel i5 11400F , Aorus B560M Elite and some 2nd hand 16GB 3200mhz Ram.
At the time I payed R3740 for the Cpu from Titan Ice , R2836 for my Board from Progenix(Now R2595) and picked up a 2nd hand pair of Ram on Carb for R1500 .
All in Total came too = R8076
Could not be happier with the performance. Really good bang for buck.
That definitely would seem to be the better way then, cheaper, and with more reliable sellers. I'm probably going to wait it out, as was suggested, but I think the way you did it definitely seems to be better than with Evetech.
 
What about this? Has decent on-board graphics which will get you by for now and generally will be a much better experience than your laptop.

 
Yea sorry that was a poor suggestion regarding the B460.

Wootware.co.za
techfox.co.za
annihilationpc.co.za
brutech.co.za

These are all reputable dealers and can be safely used.
Hey don't forget @Oj0 , Best service I have received so far!
 
Evetech has a whole PC with a 3400g, and one with a 3600 if you get the gpu yourself. Both go for around R6500 I think. Its cheaper and better performance

Shame on you for recommending Thievtech.

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What about this? Has decent on-board graphics which will get you by for now and generally will be a much better experience than your laptop.

Thanks for the link, and the entire website seems to be pretty great as well, so I will definitely be checking them out.

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Hey don't forget @Oj0 , Best service I have received so far!
I've gotten a lot of great recommendations from this thread, I'm happy I decided to post first instead of going with Evetech.

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Thanks for the link, and the entire website seems to be pretty great as well, so I will definitely be checking them out.

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Yea I recently used them and had great service and pricing. Even got a free packet of sweeties with my GPU.
 
Thanks for the link, and the entire website seems to be pretty great as well, so I will definitely be checking them out.

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The owner of Progenix is on carb as well, Cannot go wrong with any of the guys mentioned on this thread.
But stay away from Evetech and PC link computers/shop.
 
Thanks for the link, and the entire website seems to be pretty great as well, so I will definitely be checking them out.

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You wont be sorry, I cant remember how many times Iv contacted @Oj0 late on a Thursday needing something urgent for the weekend and BOOM its there Friday when I get home. He even went as far as using his own funds to purchase my 3090 (Standard Wank stakes forever to clear) as I needed it before the timespy contest ended.
 
You wont be sorry, I cant remember how many times Iv contacted @Oj0 late on a Thursday needing something urgent for the weekend and BOOM its there Friday when I get home. He even went as far as using his own funds to purchase my 3090 (Standard Wank stakes forever to clear) as I needed it before the timespy contest ended.
The owner of Progenix is on carb as well, Cannot go wrong with any of the guys mentioned on this thread.
But stay away from Evetech and PC link computers/shop.
Yea I recently used them and had great service and pricing. Even got a free packet of sweeties with my GPU.
I like that I can get support on the forum, which seems like it's a lot safer. Even if I decide to wait for a while before buying, I know know where to go. I appreciate the recommendations, also great to have real experiences to judge off of, so I'll definitely be using them in the future instead.
 
As everybody has mentioned right now is really not the best time to by a PC. Unless you absolutely need a PC I would just wait and save money you could easily get a 50% more bang for buck if you wait a year or so.
It's hard to hear but that's probably what I'm going to end up doing, waiting it out. I just started doing some preliminary research a little while ago and then I found myself suddenly quite close to trying to start soon. I will probably be waiting, even if it's a bit tedious.
 
I like that I can get support on the forum, which seems like it's a lot safer. Even if I decide to wait for a while before buying, I know know where to go. I appreciate the recommendations, also great to have real experiences to judge off of, so I'll definitely be using them in the future instead.
If you want the full carb experience, have a look at this thread : https://carbonite.co.za/index.php?threads/good-tech-website.329953/

It lists all the top guys by their usernames and their websites.
You can then even have a look at their itrader scores to see the past experiences.
 
Hi seeing you still gonna be saving up for a gpu , I would say the best option it to get a AMD Cpu that come with integrated graphics , you will be able to get away with some good performance on gaming with at least 16 gig ram , overall the Intel build is also good if it's Intel you after
 

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