Windows 11

[JollyJamma]

@JollyJamma I have considered going all Linux, but... that's still a little hardcore for me In the future, who knows? There is a teams app for Linux, and I can probably just run a VM if I really need Office applications in their native form...

Linux isn’t that hardcore if you can find a friendly OS.

There are distros that’ll require you to be an experienced user but avoid them.

I’ve learnt by playing around. I’ve modified the installer for drivers to allow them to work on an unsupported OS distro. All it took was a little Google and some determination.

 

[XtaCy696 | CGSATech]

Where is the link for this download?

 

[∀Z‾soʇɐuɐɥ┴]

Where is the link for this download?

Link: Google.com

 

[pɐlΛ‾pɐq‾ƃᴉq]

Where is the link for this download?

Here

 

[XtaCy696 | CGSATech]

@Jurie_Els @Thanatos_ZA

 

[AinsleyHarriott]

Here

You forgot the : after https

 

[pɐlΛ‾pɐq‾ƃᴉq]

You forgot the : after https

Prove it

 

[Sub-lime]

2008 called and would like their icon pack back. All that whitespace to frame those outdated icons.

 

[dainluke]

Worst thing is... if they make it cheap and easy, I would probably pay a small fee to upgrade to 11. And multiply that by billions of people like me... makes sense, for them.

I reckon it’ll be free like with W7->W10. I remember the first device I got W10 on was this slow Celeron netbook that happened to have a W7 license 😂.

 

[SantaMuerte]

Just as an FYI:

• Windows 11 does not run or install in legacy mode.
• Windows 11 requires secure boot to run and install.
• Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0 hardware for a physical install. No TPM 2.0, no Windows 11 for you.
• You can in fact not upgrade your Windows 10 to Windows 11 with the current available build. It can only be freshly installed. Whether that will change or not is yet to be seen.
• Windows 11 does activate with a Windows 10 product key.

Seems they are finally on a mission to purge old hardware and I'm all up for it if it means no bloat in the kernel for support for older hardware and if it means they can start focusing on optimization for newer hardware and not be held back by compatibility for old shit.

 

[raiNza]

Just as an FYI:

• Windows 11 does not run or install in legacy mode.
• Windows 11 requires secure boot to run and install.
• Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0 hardware for a physical install. No TPM 2.0, no Windows 11 for you.
• You can in fact not upgrade your Windows 10 to Windows 11 with the current available build. It can only be freshly installed. Whether that will change or not is yet to be seen.
• Windows 11 does activate with a Windows 10 product key.

Seems they are finally on a mission to purge old hardware and I'm all up for it if it means no bloat in the kernel for support for older hardware and if it means they can start focusing on optimization for newer hardware and not be held back by compatibility for old shit.

TPM 1.2 also supported FYI. They recommend 2.0, but 1.2 will also work.

 

[Areola Grande]

Didn't see another Windows 11 thread when I searched. If there is one please link me.

I installed Windows 11 on a spare SATA SSD. I have an AMD-based system running on X570. Had to enter the BIOS, enable Secure Boot, set AMD fTPM to disabled and then set TPM 2.0 as active. Hopefully this process becomes clearer as there are so many different names for this feature across manufacturers.

Some benchmark results.

Disclaimer:
These are basically useless. Windows 10 is my daily build, so some programs running in the background, custom fan curves etc.
Windows 11 build is all the drivers Windows automatically grabbed, standard fan curve, no bloatware etc.

Windows 10 20H2 19042.870 - nVME
Windows 11 OS Build 21996.1 - SATA SSD

Unigine Valley - 2560x1440 Ultra (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4508, 107.7, 44.7, 206.8
Win 11: 4503, 107.6, 30.8, 214.0

Unigine Superposition - 1080p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 7879, 46.45, 58.93, 73.00
Win 11: 8574, 49.95, 64.13, 82.87

Unigine Superposition - Custom 1440p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4685, 25.52, 35.05, 40.32
Win 11: 5063, 29.77, 37.87, 45.25

Passmark Performance Test (Win 10 / Win 11)
Overall - 2429.4 / 6522.5
CPU - 23119.5 / 22187.7
2D - 186.6 / 994.9
3D - 14770.3 / 24806.0
Memory - 3179.5 / 3081.5
Disk - 10395.2 / 4406.0

 

[goldfritter]

Didn't see another Windows 11 thread when I searched. If there is one please link me.

Ya boi

 

[RaptorChris]

I'm waiting for the insider version to be available and loading it up

 

[Areola Grande]

Some benchmark results.

Disclaimer:
These are basically useless. Windows 10 is my daily build, so some programs running in the background, custom fan curves etc.
Windows 11 build is all the drivers Windows automatically grabbed, standard fan curve, no bloatware etc.

Windows 10 20H2 19042.870 - nVME
Windows 11 OS Build 21996.1 - SATA SSD

Unigine Valley - 2560x1440 Ultra (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4508, 107.7, 44.7, 206.8
Win 11: 4503, 107.6, 30.8, 214.0

Unigine Superposition - 1080p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 7879, 46.45, 58.93, 73.00
Win 11: 8574, 49.95, 64.13, 82.87

Unigine Superposition - Custom 1440p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4685, 25.52, 35.05, 40.32
Win 11: 5063, 29.77, 37.87, 45.25

Passmark Performance Test (Win 10 / Win 11)
Overall - 2429.4 / 6522.5
CPU - 23119.5 / 22187.7
2D - 186.6 / 994.9
3D - 14770.3 / 24806.0
Memory - 3179.5 / 3081.5
Disk - 10395.2 / 4406.0

 

[Areola Grande]

@ViVceptioN - please can we rename this thread to something that makes sense, or merge it with the Windows 11 thread I just made?

Couldn't find it with a search as the name is mos stoopit.

 

[Rinox88]

https://imgur.com/a/oIYfUiD

 

[ViVceptioN]

@ViVceptioN - please can we rename this thread to something that makes sense, or merge it with the Windows 11 thread I just made?

Couldn't find it with a search as the name is mos stoopit.

Done

 

[AceSwiftShooter]

Some benchmark results.

Disclaimer:
These are basically useless. Windows 10 is my daily build, so some programs running in the background, custom fan curves etc.
Windows 11 build is all the drivers Windows automatically grabbed, standard fan curve, no bloatware etc.

Windows 10 20H2 19042.870 - nVME
Windows 11 OS Build 21996.1 - SATA SSD

Unigine Valley - 2560x1440 Ultra (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4508, 107.7, 44.7, 206.8
Win 11: 4503, 107.6, 30.8, 214.0

Unigine Superposition - 1080p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 7879, 46.45, 58.93, 73.00
Win 11: 8574, 49.95, 64.13, 82.87

Unigine Superposition - Custom 1440p Extreme (Score, Average, Min, Max)
Win 10: 4685, 25.52, 35.05, 40.32
Win 11: 5063, 29.77, 37.87, 45.25

Passmark Performance Test (Win 10 / Win 11)
Overall - 2429.4 / 6522.5
CPU - 23119.5 / 22187.7
2D - 186.6 / 994.9
3D - 14770.3 / 24806.0
Memory - 3179.5 / 3081.5
Disk - 10395.2 / 4406.0

Useless or not, it can only get better surely? performance ain't looking too shabby!

 

[Areola Grande]

Useless or not, it can only get better surely? performance ain't looking too shabby!

Yea I didn't mean it as a slight, simply that these aren't apples to apples comparisons. Also, I only did one run of each benchmark so it's literally the smallest dataset possible.

But it feels snappy, looks good and I can't say I've noticed any real negatives form my 30 minutes of messing around.

 

[logicalray77]

I just checked it out.

Looks nice, definitely the prettiest adware/malware combo to date!

Yeah, introducing Google App store.

 

[JollyJamma]

Still don't understand. I thought Microsoft's whole point was to get everyone on Windows 10 and just continually update it live service style. Now we just getting windows 10 deviant art edition.

Linus and a few other younoobers have said that Win 10 lasting for eternity was never going to happen.

I like Win 11.

Hopefully Microsoft have fixed the search function for it.

 

[GuardianTB]

Linus and a few other younoobers have said that Win 10 lasting for eternity was never going to happen.

I like Win 11.

Hopefully Microsoft have fixed the search function for it.

Oh I wasn't going off what glorified unboxers were saying, I just thought I remembered from Microsoft's presentation from when they released win 10 is that was the grand scheme, you know getting everyone from home, business, POS, even grandma down the corner to have it so they could just have everyone continually updated and 'safe'. It's still Microsoft anything to just keep selling or doing something else. (Again this part I could be remembering wrong)

I just honestly think it looks like a MacOS toddler edition, like we've gone from simple beautiful transparent to opaque pastels that we use to get only when you didn't install your drivers or had the basic home windows.

As long as in the background it's better then I'm all for it, just for the people that already have to continually install a new OS its just a pain in the ass, and I don't see the point (in the sense of, how long till win 12 and we do the same rodeo again).

 

[Areola Grande]

For those using Windows 11:

Have any of you noticed memory-related issues? i seem to be having an issue with memory management, whereby after gaming for roughly an hour, I start to experience lower frames and poor system performance.

I've been playing some Ghost Recon Breakpoint (for about an hour) and now Warzone for maybe an hour and I'm sitting at 80% Memory usage (Warzone, Discord, Chrome running). Warzone usage is reported at 4,547MB. I have 16GB, and total memory usage is sitting at 12,5GB. this seems excessive for one Chrome, the game and discord. Nothign else is reported as using much memory.

Possible memory leak issues with the OS itself? Never had this issue with Windows 10.

 

[∀Z‾soʇɐuɐɥ┴]

So duno if anyone else has tried to upgrade to windows 11 recently, but I am running into a strange issue where it will download and say it's ready to reboot, restart my pc, and then ask me for a keyboard language before going straight to the windows 10 recovery bit.

Rebooting here just causes it to hang on the Aorus logo for a few minutes before booting into Windows 10 and giving me a error saying something went wrong with the upgrade.

What I found is that it's potentially getting confused with what drive to use to install windows on as I have 3 nvme's (2 of which are in a single raid 0 config) and the other that is my main for windows.

Can't remove the drives as the cover plate for the 2nd one is under my gpu and I really don't want to have to drain my loop just to remove a nvme.

Anyone else have this issue? or have a solution?

Not seeing anything in my bios to disable nvme slots either (seems gigabyte doesn't want people doing this).

 

[ThatGuyJD]

So duno if anyone else has tried to upgrade to windows 11 recently, but I am running into a strange issue where it will download and say it's ready to reboot, restart my pc, and then ask me for a keyboard language before going straight to the windows 10 recovery bit.

Rebooting here just causes it to hang on the Aorus logo for a few minutes before booting into Windows 10 and giving me a error saying something went wrong with the upgrade.

What I found is that it's potentially getting confused with what drive to use to install windows on as I have 3 nvme's (2 of which are in a single raid 0 config) and the other that is my main for windows.

Can't remove the drives as the cover plate for the 2nd one is under my gpu and I really don't want to have to drain my loop just to remove a nvme.

Anyone else have this issue? or have a solution?

Not seeing anything in my bios to disable nvme slots either (seems gigabyte doesn't want people doing this).

What's the boot order? Don't have experience with 11 but if it's similar to how it does it on 10 remember to remove the installation media and check in the bios that the boot is for the drive with 11 on.

Does you win 10 still work at least? Knows there's some issues when installing 10 onto a different drive and already having 10 on a drive in the system. For some reason it corrupts the main install because windows...

 

[∀Z‾soʇɐuɐɥ┴]

What's the boot order? Don't have experience with 11 but if it's similar to how it does it on 10 remember to remove the installation media and check in the bios that the boot is for the drive with 11 on.

Does you win 10 still work at least? Knows there's some issues when installing 10 onto a different drive and already having 10 on a drive in the system. For some reason it corrupts the main install because windows...

It's all good, finally got this shit figured out at 12pm last night

When I still had the 6900xt and then got the RTX 3090 I DDU'd my AMD drivers, but I never do safe mode etc.
So when the drivers was removed, windows kicked into overdrive and re-downloaded the AMD drivers before I could get as far as shutting down my pc.

On windows 10 this was never an issue, never even saw anything relating to AMD Radeon Drivers.

Yet with the upgrade, Windows 11 was like fuck you we can't use these drivers.

So one clean reboot later with every single fucking service and start up item disabled, I managed to get Windows 11 installed just for it to bitch about AMD Drivers...

FFS

 

[Presler]

So duno if anyone else has tried to upgrade to windows 11 recently, but I am running into a strange issue where it will download and say it's ready to reboot, restart my pc, and then ask me for a keyboard language before going straight to the windows 10 recovery bit.

Rebooting here just causes it to hang on the Aorus logo for a few minutes before booting into Windows 10 and giving me a error saying something went wrong with the upgrade.

What I found is that it's potentially getting confused with what drive to use to install windows on as I have 3 nvme's (2 of which are in a single raid 0 config) and the other that is my main for windows.

Can't remove the drives as the cover plate for the 2nd one is under my gpu and I really don't want to have to drain my loop just to remove a nvme.

Anyone else have this issue? or have a solution?

Not seeing anything in my bios to disable nvme slots either (seems gigabyte doesn't want people doing this).

This is a regular problem with Windows installs, 7 did it, 10 did it, assume 11 will do it too.

For some reason windows is adamant to install your MBR on a different drive to the actual OS drive, which is why it's always a good idea to only have the OS drive plugged in when installing windows.

I'm guessing Windows is now looking for Windows 10 since the bios is looking at the MBR on the wrong drive.

Quick test, go into the boot menu, select the drive you installed 11 on and see if it boots. If it does, you'll need to remove the MBR off the other drive to get it to work

 

[∀Z‾soʇɐuɐɥ┴]

Quick test, go into the boot menu, select the drive you installed 11 on and see if it boots. If it does, you'll need to remove the MBR off the other drive to get it to work

So I wasn't trying to do an additional install of Win11..
I was trying to upgrade an existing install of Win10 to Win11.
So no other drives with boot partitions etc.
Not even multiple OS's.

Win11 just straight up fails so nothing is ever created.

 

[iamgigglz]

Yeah I keep hearing about the Win10 to Win11 upgrade being a bit borked.
I've done fresh installs on both my PC and the WM I use for work. Done some light gaming (CSGO, Splitgate, Warships, Apex) and performance appears to be 1:1.

In terms of work, Visual Studio 2022 (both .NetCore and .Net 4.8), VSCode, Office365, SoapUI etc all work perfectly. I'm even running a Windows XP VM within my Win11 VM and that's working perfectly too.

So far very happy. Perfectly stable, the search function works 95% instead of potato% and I'm digging the refreshed UI.

P.S. I'm running 1x1080p60 and 1x1440p144 on a 1060 - no issues at all.