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Who's got some balls for this one? Old school LGA 1366 issues - help?

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Hey Carbies

I've been fighting with a friend of mine's old desktop PC for some time now, and I've reached the point where I need some input, insight, and potentially a helping hand to really come to the bottom of the issues.
Long story short, he bought a system late 2010 that consists of:

CPU: Intel i7 960
Memory: 4x4gb DDR3 1333mhz Corsair XMS modules
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58A-UD3R
Graphics Card: Zotac Nvidia GTX 260
Power Supply: Cooler Master 650Watt (generic)
HDD: 1TB Seagate 3.5" SATA

The system worked wonders for a few years, and then he relocated simultaneous to getting a laptop, and never set up the desktop again for a good 3 years.
Now, we are trying to revive the system by putting in an SSD (we had an OWC 480GB SSD spare), and installing a fresh copy of Windows 10.

But, no matter which way I slice it, when the Windows 10 installation completes, on first boot I run into either:
1. A BSOD with error 'Machine Check Exception'
2. Stuck on the 'Getting Ready' page (on first boot after install).

I've updated the BIOS and worked through all the settings to ensure SATA mode is set to AHCI (and not IDE since this motherboard is so old), yet no luck.
From what I can tell, the 'Machine Check Exception' BSOD occurs when the SATA mode is set to IDE in the BIOS, and getting stuck on the 'Getting Ready' page occurs when in AHCI mode.

I tried an alternative 2.5" SATA SSD - a Kingston that I had in my old system (perfect working condition and health), yet, no luck - exactly the same issues.

At some point, I concluded that the motherboard just cannot boot an SSD and gave up, concluding to just install the OS on his OLD 3.5" 1TB SATA drive.
This, however, also didn't work, with exactly the same symptoms - what the hell?

So, I downloaded Windows 7 ISO and installed that, thinking perhaps the system cannot run Windows 10, but I get similar (if not exactly the same) results there!
When the Windows 7 installation completes and the system does its first boot, I also get a BSOD when SATA mode is set to IDE (but it flashes too quickly for me to see the error details), and it just hangs on a black screen if the SATA mode is set to AHCI.

No matter which OS I try, Windows 7 or Windows 10, I am not able to get an OS installed on either the SSD or the HDD - no matter the BIOS settings or hardware condition.

This led me to acquire another CPU, Motherboard and Memory combo from a different friend who recently upgraded to swap out the components in hope of getting it working.
He had an extremely similar build, with his components being:
CPU: Intel i7 960
Memory: 3x2gb DDR3 1066mhz Kingston HyperX modules
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (with the main difference being this board supports 6 memory slots)

I rebuilt the entire system with the 'new' (old) parts received, repaste the CPU, blew out all the dust, cleaned everything, new cable management, new chassis fans, everything.
But, even now that I have different CPU, motherboard, and memory (which worked a few weeks ago), I STILL experience EXACTLY the same symptoms?

The friend I got the second set of components off ran the system with a SATA SSD without any issues - so why am I not able to?

The only components that I have not swapped out and tested are the Graphics Card and the Power supply - but can these really be the culprits?

What is your opinion?
Am I missing a setting in BIOS perhaps? Am I doing something clearly wrong?

And, since this community is so sharp, I wonder if anyone would be willing to lend me an old-ish PCI-E Graphics that they know works for me to test? (I don't own a desktop at this time so haven't got another GPU to test with).

(Side note: I have also opened up the GTX 260 and clean, repasted it, but that didn't change anything with regards to the above).
 

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I think, after putting an entirely different set of core components (ie: CPU, Motherboard, and Memory), that the only possible culprit can be the Graphics card, right?

Perhaps, when the system is done installing Windows and it boots for the first time, everything is fine until the graphics card needs to render a screen of some kind (right after the 'Getting ready' screen on first boot) and then it bombs?

My experience with this type of stuff disagrees, but I cannot possibly imagine that two systems, both claimed to be working prior to me interacting with the components, fail in exactly the same way, with only 2 things shared across the systems - the PSU and GPU.

Right?

Or wrong?
 

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You got any other card you csn test with? Maybe your own?

I agree with you that it shouldn't be causing an issue, but, if it looks like a horse, walks like a horse, let's not call it a zebrs :)
 

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You got any other card you csn test with? Maybe your own?

I agree with you that it shouldn't be causing an issue, but, if it looks like a horse, walks like a horse, let's not call it a zebrs :)
Unfortunately, I don't currently own a desktop, so I don't have any spare GPU lying around - will need to lend one from somewhere to get this tested....
 

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In both instances did you use the same flash drive to do the intalls?

Had this issue once and it turned out the flash I used was faulty in some way. Just thought I'd share.

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In both instances did you use the say flash drive to do the intalls?

Had this issue once and it turned out the flash I used was faulty in some way. Just thought I'd share.

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Thanks for the share, and good point, but no - I have 3 different flash drives lying around here that I've been using interchangeably.
 

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Have you considered letting the poor pc rest? i am sure it will be good for your sanity my bru.
 

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Have you considered letting the poor pc rest? i am sure it will be good for your sanity my bru.
Haha, I've considered far worst for the 'poor pc'...... I've been through every emotion with this pc!
This is my final push... If testing it out with another GPU doesn't work (thanks to @PaladinLaw for helping out, should have results by tomorrow evening), then I'll put this lady to rest for good....
 

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Haha, I've considered far worst for the 'poor pc'...... I've been through every emotion with this pc!
This is my final push... If testing it out with another GPU doesn't work (thanks to @PaladinLaw for helping out, should have results by tomorrow evening), then I'll put this lady to rest for good....
You do not want to get high blood pressure because of pc bro lol but i hear u
 

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You do not want to get high blood pressure because of pc bro lol but i hear u
Actually crazy how something so (essentially) stupid can actually stress me out... I've been on a journey of self-discovery here - haha.. Introspection as to why I get so uptight when PC doesn't work...

I'd recommend a season of faulty PCs for anyone - good for Character Growth....
 

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If the system still freaks out, perhaps just try booting a live linux ISO, might just be a weird windows issue. What are you using to create your install media? The Media Creation Tool, or a downloaded ISO and Rufus?
 

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If the system still freaks out, perhaps just try booting a live linux ISO, might just be a weird windows issue. What are you using to create your install media? The Media Creation Tool, or a downloaded ISO and Rufus?
I've used Windows Creation Tool and Rufus both, with Rufus set to MBR and GPT, doesn't make any difference

And yea, I've considered an Ubuntu Live CD - that is probably a good next step if things don't change - I've just procrastinated that because running Linux on the system won't be a solution as it'll be the daily driver of a true PC novice who is used to Windows (so I didn't want to rock the boat).

I think Ubuntu with Gnome has matured so much that it is even easier than Windows in some ways, so I might just propose that if this doesn't get sorted (if Linux will run of course).

Thanks for your input @Cujo26
 

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I've used Windows Creation Tool and Rufus both, with Rufus set to MBR and GPT, doesn't make any difference

And yea, I've considered an Ubuntu Live CD - that is probably a good next step if things don't change - I've just procrastinated that because running Linux on the system won't be a solution as it'll be the daily driver of a true PC novice who is used to Windows (so I didn't want to rock the boat).

I think Ubuntu with Gnome has matured so much that it is even easier than Windows in some ways, so I might just propose that if this doesn't get sorted (if Linux will run of course).

Thanks for your input @Cujo26

You're welcome man, finding out if it's a weird windows issue in this case, I reckon, would go a long way, you could also boot to CLI and see if maybe the Free vs proprietary drivers make a difference
 

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1. have you also tried one memory dimm for the install and trying different ones but ONLY installing 1 at a time?
2. set to IDE instead of AHCI
3. swop GPu
4. installa linux distro just to c what happens...

in the above order...
 

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Tested another gpu yet @stacerasus

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Hey man - not yet, collecting a gpu tonight to test... Wil update this forum thereafter... I'm hopeful though, it's honestly the only thing that makes sense, regardless of how the symptoms make it look

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1. have you also tried one memory dimm for the install and trying different ones but ONLY installing 1 at a time?
2. set to IDE instead of AHCI
3. swop GPu
4. installa linux distro just to c what happens...

in the above order...
I'm on number 3 and 4 now - with a new gpu test happening tonight... Linux distro is next - thanks for the insight!!

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getting stuck on the 'Getting Ready'
I had this issue on 2 ancient laptops.

The problem was a WLAN module.

Do you have any other perioherals that you can remove from the board? PCI cards, etc...
 

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I had this issue on 2 ancient laptops.

The problem was a WLAN module.

Do you have any other perioherals that you can remove from the board? PCI cards, etc...
Holy schmoly, I actually have a PCI wireless card that I've (without thinking it through) been keeping in the pc regardless of the build (I don't think I've ever run an install without it in either of the two builds), soooooooooo, this could actually be worth a look....

I'll check it out right away and let you know man - thanks for the suggestion....

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Okay, so I've removed the PCI Wifi Card and reset the BIOS to defaults, but when installing Windows I now run into an error 'Windows cannot install required files. Make sure all files required for the installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x8007025D


All signs point to my install media now being corrupt (which is weird, although I've tried a thousand things at this point so it's not too surprising). so my point of action is to recreate, from scratch, my Windows 10 boot media (using the Windows Media Creation Tool) to ensure everything is 100% there - buuuuuuuut, my Internet is currently down (thank you TTConnect), so I'll have to wait for that to recover before I can do that..

I will keep this post updated - thank you all for your insights. I am quite excited and positive thinking that the issue may have been the WIFI card - that would be a sweeeeet conclusion to the issue.
 

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If you don't come right, you are more then welcome to test with my ssd have similar pc I just revived and installed no problem. But I am using the gigabyte raid 6gb ports for the ssd. As the others are all only 3gbps. But had a ud5 that I passed on to family that ran win10 also no issues with raid setup on all ports.
 

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If you installed windows off a USB, did you check what method you are using, eg mbr or gpt?

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If you installed windows off a USB, did you check what method you are using, eg mbr or gpt?

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He said earlier that he's tried both

Okay, so I've removed the PCI Wifi Card and reset the BIOS to defaults, but when installing Windows I now run into an error 'Windows cannot install required files. Make sure all files required for the installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x8007025D


All signs point to my install media now being corrupt (which is weird, although I've tried a thousand things at this point so it's not too surprising). so my point of action is to recreate, from scratch, my Windows 10 boot media (using the Windows Media Creation Tool) to ensure everything is 100% there - buuuuuuuut, my Internet is currently down (thank you TTConnect), so I'll have to wait for that to recover before I can do that..

I will keep this post updated - thank you all for your insights. I am quite excited and positive thinking that the issue may have been the WIFI card - that would be a sweeeeet conclusion to the issue.
Could it perchance be a drive issue?
 
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