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JVRR

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A good few of you will know me as JVR on the VW Club forum & CarForums - despite my zero iTrader, I have concluded several deals on Carbonite in the past.

It pains me to have to do this, but here goes.

Last week, I sold my 3-year-old MSI Apache laptop to C Comicjester . Link to sale thread

He came to my house to fetch the machine, and was given the opportunity to thoroughly inspect & test the machine before payment, after which we concluded the sale.

On Friday, he contacted me, telling me that the display no longer works, and that he had opened it, to remove the HDD & RAM.

I had initially agreed to have a look at the machine before I would even consider refunding, but contacted him later on, stating that I had given it some thought, and would not be willing to offer a refund, based on the fact that the display stopped functioning and he had worked on the machine himself, and that I had specified no warranty whatsoever in the sale ad + been open forthright about the age and condition of the machine. Besides that, I have precious little time to spend with family and to finalize my affairs, before emigrating to Europe.

He then turned belligerent, claiming that I had swindled him with a known non-working machine, and that he would open a bad deal thread on Carbonite - when I told him to go ahead, he then escalated, threatening going to the police to open a case of theft. I once more responded that he should do as he pleases, as money exchanged for goods does not constitute theft.

He then informed me that he was coming to my house, along with a friend of his, to rough me up and strong-arm me into refunding him... then started the barrage of missed calls and further intimidating messages to try and get a refund. This included calls at 11pm.

So now, I'm going to be the one to open a bad deal thread. I can't be expected to take accountability for a machine that he had physically worked on, but moreover, I take exception to threats of violence against me and mine.

Frankly, given the thuggish behavior and threats, in addition to the circumstances in which the display failed, I feel that I'm entirely within my rights to now block his number, and consider this matter closed. --- I'm not going to sacrifice the precious little time I have left in SA, dealing with this kind of drama.

Mods, kindly weigh in, should you consider my approach to be unreasonable or incorrect?

Thanks in advance.

JVRR.
 

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Just as an aside - JVRR is one of my best mates, and someone I trust implicitly. His integrity is, in my experience of 10-odd years of friendship and several reciprocal business dealings, beyond reproach.

I can confirm that he’s owned the laptop in question since new, and also vouch for its condition, as I helped him with moving data across when he bought its replacement from me about a month ago.
 

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There's usually a little "warranty void when removed" sticker around the holes that let you get to replacing the ram. So if the manufacturer would want to not help if he worked on it then why should you?

Anyway, he had his chance to check it out. He probably just bumped a cable loose somewhere.
 

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Dude, you have evidence of harassment and intimidation.

The family court would happily hand you a restraining order for this guy.

The fact that C Comicjester hasn't replied despite being online since the thread was posted means that he's guilty and an all round naughty boy.
 
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I did a deal with him lately. Deal was very strange. He kept on trying to negotiate and low ball me on pricing, even after I tried to help him by selling off the games in the bundle to someone else.

I stated all my conditions and T&C's before he made payment. Such as I only send once funds clear as I always do. I even suggested doing an instant eft if he wants it earlier and he ignored that.
He got quite rustled up, and kept on nagging me and trying to negotiate me sending it. He sent a pop from his mom and the bank. Tried to guilt trip me into saying he is disappointed I do not trust him and and and.

Money cleared and I sent the parcel.
Deal went "smoothish" but I think he is a bit hot headed and is a bit of a chance taker.

Still waiting for him to submit an iTrade after asking numerous times
 
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@ J JVRR do you have proof of these threats?

I am speaking to ComicJ now, and stories do not line up at ALL.
I asked him to come and present his side of the story as well
 
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I called him to kindly let him know I wanted to install windows Friday and when switching it on it didn’t want to work

I kindly showed him a video and kindly let him know that I didn’t touch it since I bough it right...

Then HE said maybe it’s a cable or a screw In the fan which I thought was odd as Imeam I just bought it from him and the warranty sticker was torn

Lastly he said unplug and plug the hardrive and ram back in and check that the cables are right

HIS IDEa

Now he tells everyone I’m the doos and I’m the asshole but he was the one that suggested I jones it

I’ve dealt with Carb since 2012 and this is the first hiccup I’ve had

Now everyone wants to say it’s comicjester

But who is sitting with a 6000 paper weight now with no laptop ....


On a cellphone

Enjoy your day gents
I have work to do and deadlines to meet and commitments to fill unlike others who manipulate and lie.

Some of us try make a living with the little we have
 
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Before my words get twisted

I’ve left the matter and moved on henceforth why I didn’t post a bad thread earlier perhaps someone was feeling good guilty 🙄

Mods I will kindly and respectively will not be replying further with back and forth banter as I love my job and can’t afford to loose it

Love Comic
Regards
Carbies
 

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Lastly he said unplug and plug the hardrive and ram back in and check that the cables are right

HIS IDEa
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The above discussion was done while I was busy selling a vehicle, so no time to think, just respond. After some thought, as I said, I could not control or determine with surety what had been done to the machine, and as has been stated, it was sold sans warranty, so I declined a refund.


I have work to do and deadlines to meet and commitments to fill unlike others who manipulate and lie.
I thought that name calling, even thinly concealed was not allowed in these threads. Most of the veiled threatening WA's were deleted on his side shortly after being sent. The threats of physical assault came from a number, that I will not share on a public forum, out of respect for the privacy of others.
 

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I called him to kindly let him know I wanted to install windows Friday and when switching it on it didn’t want to work

I kindly showed him a video and kindly let him know that I didn’t touch it since I bough it right...

Then HE said maybe it’s a cable or a screw In the fan which I thought was odd as Imeam I just bought it from him and the warranty sticker was torn

Lastly he said unplug and plug the hardrive and ram back in and check that the cables are right

HIS IDEa

Now he tells everyone I’m the doos and I’m the asshole but he was the one that suggested I jones it
He firstly called you out for your aggressive behaviour.

Did you threaten him as above? There's a right way and a wrong way of doing business - if you want people to help you regarding what you think is a paper weight, be nice.
Did you drop the laptop or bump it in anyway?

The print screen of the discussion seems to say have you tried the HDMI port which is a great idea because then you can isolate that it's either the motherboard or the screen.
 

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He firstly called you out for your aggressive behaviour.

Did you threaten him as above? There's a right way and a wrong way of doing business
Yeah we'll get to this still. I am still trying to figure out who said what here.

Still waiting for J JVRR to comment on the phone call thing.
 
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Just something I noticed. Looking at the time of the messages 14:09 to 14:15 he must have removed the RAM and HDD before sending these messages. I would not be able to remove both under 5 mins. If I got it correct C said J told him over the phone (C called J) to remove the ram and hdd. In that 5 mins he made a call sent messages and removed the hardware dahm!!
 
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He firstly called you out for your aggressive behaviour.

Did you threaten him as above? (i will admit i was frustrated yes but not life threatening or hectic merely the anger one would have of buying something wanting to do a fresh windows and ........................................) There's a right way and a wrong way of doing business @JVVR - if you want people to help you regarding what you think is a paper weight, be nice. @ianstagib apparently you fix lappies bud maybe you could pm me your whatsap number PLEASE BUD :)

Did you drop the laptop or bump it in anyway? NO NO NO :(:(:(

The print screen of the discussion seems to say have you tried the HDMI port which is a great idea because then you can isolate that it's either the motherboard or the screen.
I DID BEFORE CONTACTING HIM AS I HOPED MAYBE IT WAS DRIVERS OR SOMETHING BUT NOTHING WORKS TV MONITOR ANYTHING IN THE HDMI DOES NOTHING :(



THIS IS MY EXACT THOUGHT THAT HOW CAN IT BE ME OR SOMETHING THAT I DID WHAT LOGICAL REASON WOULD A PERSON HAVE TO OPEN SOMETHING THAT THEY BOUGHT PREOWNED KNOWING IT HAS NO WARRANTY WHY WOULD I MESS A ROUND WITH IT.... VERY CONVINIENT THAT THE ONE WHOSE POINTING FINGERSD AT ME IS THE ONE CONVINELTY LEAVING THE COUNTRY AND I DIDNT BLOCK HIM AS IM WANTING TO RESOLVE THIS BUT HE IS THE ONE BLAMING ME FOR EVERYTHING >>>> this is just making me more depressed on the money ive lost and cant play fortnite as intended.

we all know this is life and lesson learnt. the school of life and her school fee's suck.
 
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