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Hey guys, I hope everyone is well on this lovely Friday!

Just thought I'd ask if anyone has any experience with the new RAV4 CVT?

What's it like to drive in town and on the long road? In-cabin noise? How's the gearbox? Power? Economy? General drive feel and comfort?

Would you recommend it?

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Good car, just stay away from a CVT gearbox. I've heard of catastrophic failures towing with them, light loads and new cars.

Google CVT and towing.
 
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We have both these cars

the pre-face lift RAV 2.0 CVT and
the X-trail 2,5 CVT AWD.

approx + 40 000km on both cars

Location Gauteng.

RAV4

Rav 4 uses more petrol at same speed. Has less over taking power when loaded. We have never towed with this car. Mostly a one person car. Smaller and easier to park than the Xtrail. Best fuel consumption 8,2l /100km. Brakes are more expensive to replace. 5 seater

Xtrail AWD 2,5

The xtrail is the AWD 7 seater verison with the front and rear cameras and all round pdc.

It uses less petrol (I have it down to 6,1 l /100km). It is mostly the family car. It definitely overtakes easier with the family in the car. It tows well. 1 ton trailer. brakes are cheaper to replace. 5 year 120 000km warranty. Road noise is less, but this is down to tires on the car. The seats are slightly more comfortable. It is more difficult to park. Outside view is restricted when reversing. Interior is more hard wearing. The 17 inch tires are give a more comfortable ride. The bigger size in noticably more choppy on the road.

The Xtrail looks nicer
 

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Why

List reasons !!

"hesitating or lurching at slow speeds, and sometimes slipping out of gear" on the 2019 model.

Better go with the 2016 or 2018 models.
 

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Unfortunately the USA model has

1. a different engine setup
2. different steering
3. more emission controls, making it slower
 

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Thanks for all the feedback everyone!
I haven't heard the greatest things about the CVT 'box but would prefer to get feedback from someone with daily experience.

I live in Kimberley so my commute to work is usually less than 20 minutes a day (to and from work) and I'm single with no kids.
I do occasionally drive to JHB, Bloemfontein and Cape Town (every couple of months or so) and would prefer something decently comfortable on the road and that can sit at 140km/hr without droning on and on.

@aiccc have you driven the car long distance? What has been your experience? Also, how many km's do you normally get off a full tank? Any issues with the gearbox? By pre-facelift you mean the 2018 shape? I think the newer model has a bit more power?

Thanks again
 

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I have a late 2019 Rav 4 cvt (same shape as the 2020 model). I haven't experienced any lurching or any of the other issues with the cvt box. It does take some getting used to, as it always seems to be in a higher gear than necessary, which can cause some hesitation on acceleration when you want to pickup speed quickly, but you get used to the characteristics of the box and can easily compensate for it.

The only gripe I have is on the freeway when you want to accelerate quickly, you have to take it to high revs for any quick acceleration. Other than that, in normal commuting, it's perfectly fine. It's a normally aspirated 2L motor, so don't expect loads of torque from low down.

I did a trip to Durban last week, from JHB, and a full tank got me 670km before the fuel light came on. That's with having the cruise control set to 140km/h for most of the way.

I'm coming from a sports hatch, so my view on comfort will be slanted, but it's the first time in a lot of years I got to Durban and didn't feel tired. I have the cloth seats, which are quite comfortable, the driving position is great, and the only noise I could hear is the tyre noise.

If you do a lot of long trips, I would advise on getting the VX rather than the GX, as the leather seats are more comfortable, and the adaptive cruise control is really a good feature. I'm on 30000km now, bought it with 15000km, haven't had to go to the dealership since. Service is booked for this coming week.

Oh, and my 2019 missed out on the Android Auto and Apple Carplay software update, and it looks like it's gonna be a while before it comes to SA, so if you buying 2nd hand, look for a 2019 that already has the update (post September 2019) or 2020 model.
 

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My first question would be what are you driving at the moment ?

I do not own the latest shape rav, but have driven one and know of two people driving one, thats the 2.0 CVT

My dad has the previous shape 2.5 Auto, that is his second one, the reason we kept driving the 2.0 CVTs

But i did own another Toyota CVT, coming from a VW DSG (problematic, but i would rather buy that and make provision to replace mechatronics often rather then driving a CVT)

If you not worried about gearbox problems, because if you are these days in my opinion you might as well go manual (that is what i have done until i can afford an auto and provision for repairing the box)

So back to the question, it would make do to work and back.

Long distance, means you would be coming past Klerksdorp to JHB.

When i owned a Toyota CVT, i STOPPED traveling long distance because that box is sheeeeeet, it will frustrate you and land you in jail by murdering someone!

End of the day in my opinion, I do not like driving the Rav 2.5 Auto because it is Auto and has (i think, the old 4/6 speed gearbox) and is heavy on fuel, but if those were my final 2 options, then i will take the 2.5 auto. CVT IS SHEEEEEEET.
 

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Are you planning on buying new?

If not have a look at a low km X1/X3 (if you want better towing)

My X3 2.0D was amazing. That 8 speed auto and diesel engine is great! I did 100K on it towing 2 dirtbikes 3 times a week and not a single issue ever. I averaged 8L/100Km with towing.

My 2c use it, dont use it ;)
 

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My sister in law has a 4 year old 6 speed 2l RAV. Took it on a holiday trip to Crystal Springs.
It has a weird rubbery ride. Steering is lifeless. Low on power. yuk.
The seats and driving position remind me of the old Camry i once had, uses the same /similar engine.

Compared to my Honda CRV 2.2 Diesel.
The Honda has more character, lighter on fuel, more comfy, more space, better air-con and it feels less like a white appliance
 
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My first question would be what are you driving at the moment ?

I do not own the latest shape rav, but have driven one and know of two people driving one, thats the 2.0 CVT

My dad has the previous shape 2.5 Auto, that is his second one, the reason we kept driving the 2.0 CVTs

But i did own another Toyota CVT, coming from a VW DSG (problematic, but i would rather buy that and make provision to replace mechatronics often rather then driving a CVT)

If you not worried about gearbox problems, because if you are these days in my opinion you might as well go manual (that is what i have done until i can afford an auto and provision for repairing the box)

So back to the question, it would make do to work and back.

Long distance, means you would be coming past Klerksdorp to JHB.

When i owned a Toyota CVT, i STOPPED traveling long distance because that box is sheeeeeet, it will frustrate you and land you in jail by murdering someone!

End of the day in my opinion, I do not like driving the Rav 2.5 Auto because it is Auto and has (i think, the old 4/6 speed gearbox) and is heavy on fuel, but if those were my final 2 options, then i will take the 2.5 auto. CVT IS SHEEEEEEET.
The new model only comes in the 2.0L engine.

The cvt box is different to the previous Corolla's that had a cvt box.

I'd advise the OP to test drive the new one, as I feel the way the cvt box works is subjective to the person driving. I personally didn't feel frustrated driving to Durban and back.
 

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The new model only comes in the 2.0L engine.

The cvt box is different to the previous Corolla's that had a cvt box.

I'd advise the OP to test drive the new one, as I feel the way the cvt box works is subjective to the person driving. I personally didn't feel frustrated driving to Durban and back.
Driven the new one too, as well as corolla hatch, which is a turbo.

But as i said i come from a DSG gearbox and its on demand, same as a manual, when you need to move or overtake, you either drop the gear on manual or put foot on auto, however the CVT says no wait let me think first.

But yes depends on different styles, as i said, as a run around or driving on a dual lane highway in the left lane, no issues, but driving on a single lane road, having to constantly overtake, does not work for me.

An easy way to give an indication is to see what OP is currently driving

I agree with test drive, but needs to be on a longer one with different driving conditions, i also bought based on a 20km test drive, on a straight dual lane road.
 

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I have a late 2019 Rav 4 cvt (same shape as the 2020 model). I haven't experienced any lurching or any of the other issues with the cvt box. It does take some getting used to, as it always seems to be in a higher gear than necessary, which can cause some hesitation on acceleration when you want to pickup speed quickly, but you get used to the characteristics of the box and can easily compensate for it.

The only gripe I have is on the freeway when you want to accelerate quickly, you have to take it to high revs for any quick acceleration. Other than that, in normal commuting, it's perfectly fine. It's a normally aspirated 2L motor, so don't expect loads of torque from low down.

I did a trip to Durban last week, from JHB, and a full tank got me 670km before the fuel light came on. That's with having the cruise control set to 140km/h for most of the way.

I'm coming from a sports hatch, so my view on comfort will be slanted, but it's the first time in a lot of years I got to Durban and didn't feel tired. I have the cloth seats, which are quite comfortable, the driving position is great, and the only noise I could hear is the tyre noise.

If you do a lot of long trips, I would advise on getting the VX rather than the GX, as the leather seats are more comfortable, and the adaptive cruise control is really a good feature. I'm on 30000km now, bought it with 15000km, haven't had to go to the dealership since. Service is booked for this coming week.

Oh, and my 2019 missed out on the Android Auto and Apple Carplay software update, and it looks like it's gonna be a while before it comes to SA, so if you buying 2nd hand, look for a 2019 that already has the update (post September 2019) or 2020 model.

This is very reassuring! Thank you.

My first question would be what are you driving at the moment ?

I do not own the latest shape rav, but have driven one and know of two people driving one, thats the 2.0 CVT

My dad has the previous shape 2.5 Auto, that is his second one, the reason we kept driving the 2.0 CVTs

But i did own another Toyota CVT, coming from a VW DSG (problematic, but i would rather buy that and make provision to replace mechatronics often rather then driving a CVT)

If you not worried about gearbox problems, because if you are these days in my opinion you might as well go manual (that is what i have done until i can afford an auto and provision for repairing the box)

So back to the question, it would make do to work and back.

Long distance, means you would be coming past Klerksdorp to JHB.

When i owned a Toyota CVT, i STOPPED traveling long distance because that box is sheeeeeet, it will frustrate you and land you in jail by murdering someone!

End of the day in my opinion, I do not like driving the Rav 2.5 Auto because it is Auto and has (i think, the old 4/6 speed gearbox) and is heavy on fuel, but if those were my final 2 options, then i will take the 2.5 auto. CVT IS SHEEEEEEET.

Hey man. I'm currently driving a 2013 Corolla 1.6 auto.

Also pretty sure the only two models we have in SA are the 2l and 2.5l. Only the top of the range RAV4 VX AWD comes with a normal automatic gear box. The rest all have the CVT, with the base model being manual.
Are you planning on buying new?

If not have a look at a low km X1/X3 (if you want better towing)

My X3 2.0D was amazing. That 8 speed auto and diesel engine is great! I did 100K on it towing 2 dirtbikes 3 times a week and not a single issue ever. I averaged 8L/100Km with towing.

My 2c use it, dont use it ;)

I plan on buying second-hand. Budget is around 350000-400000. Don't really want to push it passed this

The new model only comes in the 2.0L engine.

The cvt box is different to the previous Corolla's that had a cvt box.

I'd advise the OP to test drive the new one, as I feel the way the cvt box works is subjective to the person driving. I personally didn't feel frustrated driving to Durban and back.
I'll be test driving it in the next week or so. Just wanted some input from people who may have had the car for a while now.
Also, based on my budget, any other good recommendations for a medium sized, comfortable SUV?

Thanks again for the input everyone
 

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This is very reassuring! Thank you.



Hey man. I'm currently driving a 2013 Corolla 1.6 auto.

Also pretty sure the only two models we have in SA are the 2l and 2.5l. Only the top of the range RAV4 VX AWD comes with a normal automatic gear box. The rest all have the CVT, with the base model being manual.


I plan on buying second-hand. Budget is around 350000-400000. Don't really want to push it passed this


I'll be test driving it in the next week or so. Just wanted some input from people who may have had the car for a while now.
Also, based on my budget, any other good recommendations for a medium sized, comfortable SUV?

Thanks again for the input everyone
Best is to test drive them, make some notes and let us know what you find.
Try the Honda CRV the Mazda 5, X-Trail, Subaru Forester
 

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Yes we have driven this long distance. I drive PTA to Kimberley alot. I prefer the xtrail long distance. It has a better engine.

The CVT box does not drone. I do + 200km per day. It is great in JHB traffic. Better fuel consumption than a old school toyota auto box. It will make a loud noise when full bore acceleration is required.

The 2.0L in gauteng is avg accel (slow) fine once it is up to speed on the freeway
Comfort is avg
brake are expensive. We need to do disc and pads now(yikes)
Toyota and Nissan service is perfect. (dealer dependent)

It is an appliance. You cannot compare it to a golf with a DSG box. CVTs are not a drivers car.

Overall It is a avg SUV. The X-trail is better and there are better deals.


X-Trail deals
I recommend you contact IC auto nissan at

IC Auto Benoni Nissan​

1 New Modder Road, Bengate City, Kleinfontein, Benoni, 1501
011 845 3104
 

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This is brand new.

IC nissan will be able to beat the price.


Nissan fit OEM PDC. It is cheaper than the aftermarket ones. Your dealer may not know this.

The cameras are only useful it you off road. IT is great when climbing slowly. You can see the front of the car and obstacles. else avoid it.
 

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