You always remember your first time. So thank you Chris Mata, you Spanish prick.
For anyone currently dealing with @techSpec and paypal, I suggest you stop right away. This scammer already owes myself over $1000 and @Traveller over $1000. I consider this money stolen, since he has not paid me back in over a month and has not paid back Traveller since September 2017. Apparently he does design work and gets paid through paypal from clients overseas, but we have no business name--only an email,number, bank account and name.
This is definitely a strange one since I've been dealing with this Chris Mata since 2016, so for him to cut and run with $1000 seems awfully weird considering we've done deals over time equating to much more than this. I even PM
'd him on the first thread he opened on carbonite asking about how he can get his paypal converted into ZAR...This is either a long con or he has fallen on tough times enough to turn him bad: either case, this needs to be shared.
So, it started with me in March this year. He messaged me via whatsapp as he always does, but this time he wanted me to pay him R2000 to take $200, but he'll send the $200 the following week since he is waiting on a client. He had recently (since last year at least) wanted me to do pay and clear with the money as he seemed to always need it immediately. If this was anyone else, I'd not ever agree to that, but since we had a history of pretty much no issues selling me paypal since 2016, I agreed. He did say at the beginning of this year his work was slowing down and clients were taking long to pay him so his bills were pilling up, so I could understand the need to get money cleared between my FNB and his standard bank account. So, I paid him the R2000 and over time he paid me the $200 (after much longer than he told me) was around 2 weeks to get back $200 instead of the 3 days originally said.
Within this time he sends me another amount--He needs $700 changed quickly as he's going to the hospital and needs to pay those bills. I dont have enough in my bank account, but I have enough for $600. Now, within this process, instead of paying over the rands with pay and clear, FNB stuffs me around and in the process it becomes a regular payment, so it will only clear much later on and he needed the cash immediately. I tell him this and his messages do seem panicked. I tell him I dont have enough to send, but my GF has a standard bank account, and she has 6K to send on condition that he send back the R6k i had sent when it cleared. So, like a chop, I rope my GF into it, and that's pretty much were we are at...
The strange thing is, if he was a scammer, after I sent the R6000 from my GF, a couple of days later he still sent me $165 with a message saying "the rest will be following". And that was the last payment, around a month ago.
Why would a scammer send me $ if he already had the money we'd sent him? Strange. Rereading through this and the whatsapp messages with him, it all so clearly reads "Scam!!!". But this was someone I've dealt with before. Hell, with amounts around $600 before. So to me it was not strange to send him large sums as we'd dealt before with such things. Going through our earlier conversations, he was generally quite friendly, even leaving voice notes at times. Just shows you how people can change when money is on the table. I want to believe he's not a scammer, but when it quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck...well, then I'm fucked out of R10 000.
I'm not sure if this dude has fallen on tough times, and he might be selling to other people on carbonite and elsewhere (well, in our whatsapp messages he said as much), so this is a warning to people who've bought/are buying from him: He can and has stolen.
His Details as far as I know them:
Name: Domatezo Chris Mata
Number:
Email he uses with paypal: chrissphon1@gmail.com
Bank Account 1:
Bank Account 2:
Standard Bank
If anyone else has more information, please let me know.
If mods want proof of scam, I can email them the relevant details. Attached an example of the convo I've been having with him. He seems to have blocked me on whatsapp now.
Also, @techSpec: if you are reading this and you are honest about your medical problems, I hope that they are not life-threatening, but I also hope that whatever ailment you have, that it makes you as uncomfortable as possible for the rest of your life.
For anyone currently dealing with @techSpec and paypal, I suggest you stop right away. This scammer already owes myself over $1000 and @Traveller over $1000. I consider this money stolen, since he has not paid me back in over a month and has not paid back Traveller since September 2017. Apparently he does design work and gets paid through paypal from clients overseas, but we have no business name--only an email,number, bank account and name.
This is definitely a strange one since I've been dealing with this Chris Mata since 2016, so for him to cut and run with $1000 seems awfully weird considering we've done deals over time equating to much more than this. I even PM
'd him on the first thread he opened on carbonite asking about how he can get his paypal converted into ZAR...This is either a long con or he has fallen on tough times enough to turn him bad: either case, this needs to be shared.
So, it started with me in March this year. He messaged me via whatsapp as he always does, but this time he wanted me to pay him R2000 to take $200, but he'll send the $200 the following week since he is waiting on a client. He had recently (since last year at least) wanted me to do pay and clear with the money as he seemed to always need it immediately. If this was anyone else, I'd not ever agree to that, but since we had a history of pretty much no issues selling me paypal since 2016, I agreed. He did say at the beginning of this year his work was slowing down and clients were taking long to pay him so his bills were pilling up, so I could understand the need to get money cleared between my FNB and his standard bank account. So, I paid him the R2000 and over time he paid me the $200 (after much longer than he told me) was around 2 weeks to get back $200 instead of the 3 days originally said.
Within this time he sends me another amount--He needs $700 changed quickly as he's going to the hospital and needs to pay those bills. I dont have enough in my bank account, but I have enough for $600. Now, within this process, instead of paying over the rands with pay and clear, FNB stuffs me around and in the process it becomes a regular payment, so it will only clear much later on and he needed the cash immediately. I tell him this and his messages do seem panicked. I tell him I dont have enough to send, but my GF has a standard bank account, and she has 6K to send on condition that he send back the R6k i had sent when it cleared. So, like a chop, I rope my GF into it, and that's pretty much were we are at...
The strange thing is, if he was a scammer, after I sent the R6000 from my GF, a couple of days later he still sent me $165 with a message saying "the rest will be following". And that was the last payment, around a month ago.
Why would a scammer send me $ if he already had the money we'd sent him? Strange. Rereading through this and the whatsapp messages with him, it all so clearly reads "Scam!!!". But this was someone I've dealt with before. Hell, with amounts around $600 before. So to me it was not strange to send him large sums as we'd dealt before with such things. Going through our earlier conversations, he was generally quite friendly, even leaving voice notes at times. Just shows you how people can change when money is on the table. I want to believe he's not a scammer, but when it quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck...well, then I'm fucked out of R10 000.
I'm not sure if this dude has fallen on tough times, and he might be selling to other people on carbonite and elsewhere (well, in our whatsapp messages he said as much), so this is a warning to people who've bought/are buying from him: He can and has stolen.
His Details as far as I know them:
Name: Domatezo Chris Mata
Number:
Email he uses with paypal: chrissphon1@gmail.com
Bank Account 1:
Bank Account 2:
Standard Bank
If anyone else has more information, please let me know.
If mods want proof of scam, I can email them the relevant details. Attached an example of the convo I've been having with him. He seems to have blocked me on whatsapp now.
Also, @techSpec: if you are reading this and you are honest about your medical problems, I hope that they are not life-threatening, but I also hope that whatever ailment you have, that it makes you as uncomfortable as possible for the rest of your life.
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