Ryzen 9 3950X Review, The New Performance King!

[PancakesZA]

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (Zen 2) Processor Review

AMD's Ryzen 9 3950X CPU launched today and we have put our review sample fully through its paces against the competition from Intel.

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The AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review: 16 Cores on 7nm with PCIe 4.0

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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review: A Shockingly Fast, Brilliant Processor

AMD's 16-core flagship finally arrives and it's absolutely amazing

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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X review

A multithreaded 16-core/32-thread beast that's great for content creators and can also play games.

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[WideAwak3]

wonder how much it will be in SA. probably R20,000 as they price things by performance in SA and not their relevant USD prices

so much want

 

[SILTECH786]

Not bad if I was a AMD fan and only 20k

 

[WideAwak3]

$750 does not equal R20,000.00, people are really bad at math here in SA. shit

 

[SILTECH786]

$750 does not equal R20,000.00, people are really bad at math here in SA. shit

Yeah maths was not a favourable subject to me funny how I spend them notes esp the bright color ones with extra zeros

 

[Valheru]

I would love one of these for my work PC, that poor old 7700K cannot keep up.

 

[Ginseng]

Amd🤮

 

[Valheru]

Amd🤮

Oh look, a fanboy appears! Thank you for your massive contribution to the dicussion, I like how you made such clear references to facts when proving your point.

 

[blankster]

And so ends the great mainstream battle for 2019. Been sitting on my gaming CPU/Mobo upgrade budget the whole year to see how this pans out and all I see is the humble 9700K ( especially with the current R5K deals going on) STILL kicking ass in straight up gaming. I'm sure the next 7nm+ and 5nm AMD gens will be amazing, but I need something better now, so, until then.... Intel order placed and outta here

 

[WideAwak3]

And so ends the great mainstream battle for 2019. Been sitting on my gaming CPU/Mobo upgrade budget the whole year to see how this pans out and all I see is the humble 9700K ( especially with the current R5K deals going on) STILL kicking ass in straight up gaming. I'm sure the next 7nm+ and 5nm AMD gens will be amazing, but I need something better now, so, until then.... Intel order placed and outta here

Can't argue with that. unless you do more than gaming intel is still ahead. but it really isn't by much.
I can also foresee in the near future that game developers start to make use of higher core count CPUs. and also when gaming at higher resolutions like 1440p and 4k, there is almost no difference between intel and amd.

But AMD is going in the right direction for sure.

 

[VPII]

I estimate the cost of the Ryzen 9 3950X to be between R16K and R17K more or less. If it is close to or around R16K then I may sell my Ryzen 9 3900X to get one of these, but I'll first see taken that this Ryzen 9 3900X I have is pretty cool running at 4.2Ghz all core under PBO using a -0.1125 vcore offset. If I run Prime95 the speed drops to 4Ghz with the vcore hovering around 1.16vcore and the core temps did not even pass 80C after about an hour. The only sad thing with this processor is that it cannot handle extreme cold, well so I found out when trying it out with DICE.

Still a great chip though.

 

[WideAwak3]

I estimate the cost of the Ryzen 9 3950X to be between R16K and R17K more or less. If it is close to or around R16K then I may sell my Ryzen 9 3900X to get one of these, but I'll first see taken that this Ryzen 9 3900X I have is pretty cool running at 4.2Ghz all core under PBO using a -0.1125 vcore offset. If I run Prime95 the speed drops to 4Ghz with the vcore hovering around 1.16vcore and the core temps did not even pass 80C after about an hour. The only sad thing with this processor is that it cannot handle extreme cold, well so I found out when trying it out with DICE.

Still a great chip though.

Pure curiosity, but why do you think the chip doesn't like extreme cold? Be as technical as possible

 

[VPII]

Pure curiosity, but why do you think the chip doesn't like extreme cold? Be as technical as possible

It refuse to start up at -30c then leave it to defrost and no problem starting up. IF speed was all the way down at 1200mhz to get away from cold bug but still no go.

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[pXius]

It refuse to start up at -30c then leave it to defrost and no problem starting up. IF speed was all the way down at 1200mhz to get away from cold bug but still no go.

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GN got a pretty nice sample and didn't struggle with cold bug that high up. Might be the specific mobo?

 

[VPII]

GN got a pretty nice sample and didn't struggle with cold bug that high up. Might be the specific mobo?

I doubt it is the mobo, but I'm not saying that it cannot be. I noticed with the new Agesa 1.0.0.4 bios for the MSI Meg X570 Ace that there is a LN2 option which apparently helps with cold bug. Unfortunately the bios is a dud when I try to use it normally. I even tried the beta this morning and Blue screens all the way running PBO even without the -0.1125vcore offset, thus vcore on Auto. So I'll wait for a new Bios to try again, but even the official bios with the Agesa 1.0.0.4 does the same and basically killed my Windows 10 to the point where I had to reinstall.

Make no mistake this chip is great and it would be sad to let it go, but I'll have to if I try to get the 3950X. From what I've seen out of the reviews for the 3950X I cannot help but to want one as they are apparently pretty well binned. I just ran Prime95 again with small FFT on the 3900X and it was running between 4.05 and 4.075 multi but giving it 1.2vcore so the core temps was just over 81C. Stopped it after about 10 minutes as I did not see the point to let it continue.

For some reason I just cannot get any manual overclock to run Prime95, even as low as 4Ghz but with PBO it is a breeze and performance pretty good.

 

[adamr]

$750 does not equal R20,000.00, people are really bad at math here in SA. shit

Yeah I reckon 13-14k odd for SA pricing. Not awful considering the performance

 

[pXius]

I doubt it is the mobo, but I'm not saying that it cannot be. I noticed with the new Agesa 1.0.0.4 bios for the MSI Meg X570 Ace that there is a LN2 option which apparently helps with cold bug. Unfortunately the bios is a dud when I try to use it normally. I even tried the beta this morning and Blue screens all the way running PBO even without the -0.1125vcore offset, thus vcore on Auto. So I'll wait for a new Bios to try again, but even the official bios with the Agesa 1.0.0.4 does the same and basically killed my Windows 10 to the point where I had to reinstall.

Make no mistake this chip is great and it would be sad to let it go, but I'll have to if I try to get the 3950X. From what I've seen out of the reviews for the 3950X I cannot help but to want one as they are apparently pretty well binned. I just ran Prime95 again with small FFT on the 3900X and it was running between 4.05 and 4.075 multi but giving it 1.2vcore so the core temps was just over 81C. Stopped it after about 10 minutes as I did not see the point to let it continue.

For some reason I just cannot get any manual overclock to run Prime95, even as low as 4Ghz but with PBO it is a breeze and performance pretty good.

The LN2 mode just shoves a Fton of voltage on boot from what I understand. Is the Meg 1.0.0.4 still beta?

With regards to PBO and Prime 95. Maybe when under AVX a higher VID table is pulled which is fed by PBO but not when manually OCing? Z390 does something similar. Or DC/AC load-line might be set at different ohm levels between PBO and manual. I haven't played with X570 so no idea what voltages you get to tinker with, or what they might not even show in the BIOS.

You can always use AMIBCP to see if there are any hidden bios settings worth enabling. Even if it's just to see how default values change between PBO and manual.

 

[adamr]

GN got a pretty nice sample and didn't struggle with cold bug that high up. Might be the specific mobo?

You going to upgrade ?? Right now wish I did amd over z390 (guess this is where you say ... I told you so [emoji1787])

 

[pXius]

You going to upgrade ?? Right now wish I did amd over z390 (guess this is where you say ... I told you so [emoji1787])

Nah,

My main rig is used for gaming, unlike 90% of Carbonite, I don't edit videos in Blender all day. And when it's all about the very last few FPS, frequency still takes the cake. I'll probably be one of the few interested in the 10900 or whatever it'll be called.

Also, if Nvidia's next flagship card ends up being such a Ti monster again, frequency might once again be the key to unlocking it's full potential. Speculation of course.

Either way, people should buy what they want, that's the great thing about competition ^;^

I might grab a 3900X to replace the 2700X in my server when people start dropping them for the 3950X.

 

[VPII]

The LN2 mode just shoves a Fton of voltage on boot from what I understand. Is the Meg 1.0.0.4 still beta?

With regards to PBO and Prime 95. Maybe when under AVX a higher VID table is pulled which is fed by PBO but not when manually OCing? Z390 does something similar. Or DC/AC load-line might be set at different ohm levels between PBO and manual. I haven't played with X570 so no idea what voltages you get to tinker with, or what they might not even show in the BIOS.

You can always use AMIBCP to see if there are any hidden bios settings worth enabling. Even if it's just to see how default values change between PBO and manual.

Nope they have an official Agesa 1.0.0.4 bios, but as stated it gave me similar problems compared to the latest beta so I'll stick with 1.0.0.3 ABBA for now. I think the difference with PBO which you can see with Hwinfo not shown as such by CPUz is that speeds drop a little lower at times during Prime95 small FFT runs. It does however make sense what you stating about the vcore being adjusted when running PBO and Prime95 small FFT as it varies sometimes between runs as I set the maximum core temp to 87C.

 

[VPII]

[emoji23]
Nah,

My main rig is used for gaming, unlike 90% of Carbonite, I don't edit videos in Blender all day. And when it's all about the very last few FPS, frequency still takes the cake. I'll probably be one of the few interested in the 10900 or whatever it'll be called.

Also, if Nvidia's next flagship card ends up being such a Ti monster again, frequency might once again be the key to unlocking it's full potential. Speculation of course.

Either way, people should buy what they want, that's the great thing about competition ^;^

I might grab a 3900X to replace the 2700X in my server when people start dropping them for the 3950X.

Well my 3900x is up for a feeler so Ill keep you in mind...ha ha ha

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[WideAwak3]

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Yeah I reckon 13-14k odd for SA pricing. Not awful considering the performance

Not awful? its a damned crock of shit if its that price. Remember the distributor price should be well under $700 and retail is $750.00 (R11031.00) everything i hate about SA, they would sell so much more without the massive import and ramaphosa tax. and then the distributors are really horrible with their prices.

still wouldnt mind having one though lol

 

[adamr]

Not awful? its a damned crock of shit if its that price. Remember the distributor price should be well under $700 and retail is $750.00 (R11031.00) everything i hate about SA, they would sell so much more without the massive import and ramaphosa tax. and then the distributors are really horrible with their prices.

still wouldnt mind having one though lol

Yes compared to Intel offerings with this many cores is how much ?

A 9900k is 9-10k ...and that's half the cores

 

[WideAwak3]

Yes compared to Intel offerings with this many cores is how much ?

A 9900k is 9-10k ...and that's half the cores

Agreed. but my point applies to all IT components in SA, Intel, AMD and all others. we are being robbed
I have family in the usa, that buys from microcenter retail stores. And its almost a 25% saving to our distributor prices.

Also i bitch about it, as i would like to see growth in this sector in SA. but SA does its best to stifle growth

 

[adamr]

Agreed. but my point applies to all IT components in SA, Intel, AMD and all others. we are being robbed
I have family in the usa, that buys from microcenter retail stores. And its almost a 25% saving to our distributor prices.

Yeah i think it's also an extra leg in the value chain with local distros practically selling to retailers at what retail pricing is overseas ... More people in the chain more people need to eat

 

[pXius]

SA Distribution and retail is a whole topic on it's own. Unless you have the capital to buy insane amounts of stock, you'll be paying more than retail in some cases. This means the SA enthusiast market will stay monopolized by a few big names for the foreseeable future.

edit: grammar

 

[WideAwak3]

SA Distribution and retail is a whole topic on it's own. Unless you have the capital to buy insane amounts of stock, you'll be paying more than retail in some cases. This means the SA enthusiast market will stay monopolized buy a few big names for the foreseeable future.

we should maybe think of crowdfunding an import company and cut out all these guys, and get the pricing in line. if I had the capital to do it I would.
the market can only grow in SA if people can actually afford the gear they want, and not always settle for less.